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Old September 14th 11, 04:00 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
palsing[_2_]
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On Sep 14, 6:20*am, oriel36 wrote:

You are only asked to observe and interpret and if you can't do that
then I will not hold you to it...


I have asked you more than once to interpret the observation that a
star will return to 2 sticks in the ground every 23:56:04, and so far
you have not once told me what this means to you. It is an observation
that can be made by anyone, using any star, anywhere on Earth, any
time of the year, and it obviously means something.

In your own words, "You are only asked to observe and interpret"... so
what interpretation do you have to offer?

\Paul A
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Old September 14th 11, 05:19 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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On Sep 14, 4:00*pm, palsing wrote:
On Sep 14, 6:20*am, oriel36 wrote:

You are only asked to observe and interpret and if you can't do that
then I will not hold you to it...


I have asked you more than once to interpret the observation that a
star will return to 2 sticks in the ground every 23:56:04, and so far
you have not once told me what this means to you. It is an observation
that can be made by anyone, using any star, anywhere on Earth, any
time of the year, and it obviously means something.


The modeling is for people who can match 1461 rotations of the Earth
with 1461 days through the daily temperature fluctuations and not
intellectually impotent people who imagine 1465 rotations for the same
period -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/481?

If you can't extract the rotation of the Earth out of the data
above,you cannot snap out of the cult ideology to which you are
attached as the proportion of 1461 rotations match near enough 4
orbital circuits or 365 1/4 rotations per circuit.The issue of how you
are arriving at the return of the star to the same meridian using
right ascension which amounts to the calendar based system of
formatting the daily and orbital motions across 1461 days and not 365
days 5 hours 49 minutes explains itself with familiarity so what it
means is a lesson in how not to use timekeeping convenience like the
24 hour day in context of the calendar system.Your 366 1/4 rotations
expands to 1465 rotations over 1461 days defying common sense .

This issue is how to treat the motion of the polar coordinates through
the circle of illumination as it turns in a cycle/circle with every
orbit and best understood by the orbital daylight/darkness cycle.It is
a large modification to the existing explanation for the seasons and
variations in the natural noon cycle and requires only the minimum
amount of talent that I am certain exists out there among readers.You
have conducted yourself in a way that no astronomer would as the
achievement in this discipline comes only from those with a deeper
sense of humanity as it relies on how it makes a person feel rather
than projecting some super-intellectual quality which sets a human
apart,in short,the astronomers are almost the poets of the science
world,not because they are weak but because they accept the fire and
pain of innovation and creation.

This is all good,the additional orbital component relies on readers
who are capable of reading a simple temperature legend and concluding
that the Earth turns once in a day and 1461 times in 1461 days and
until people set aside their sticks and look at what they experience
physically,they cannot tune into the great dynamics of the Earth.













In your own words, "You are only asked to observe and interpret"... so
what interpretation do you have to offer?

\Paul A


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Old September 15th 11, 12:11 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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With all the satellites in space I found only one image of the Earth
at the orbital point of the equinox on a Google image search -

http://epod.typepad.com/.a/6a0105371...5dd64a5970c-pi

The traveling orbital axis stretches through the center of the Earth
from Arctic to Antarctic circles and the polar coordinates turn around
in a cycle about this point hence in a few days the polar coordinates
will pass through the circle of illumination,something which offers a
window into the orbital behavior of the Earth minus daily rotation.

This is what imaging is for and the person who works with these things
is rewarded many times over for the small effort needed to out cause
and effect in context.I don't know where the personal hostility
directed at me comes from,the issue is not contentious and in the
spirit of astronomy which allows modifications to be made,the one
thing holding the modification up is the addiction to right ascension
as a means to explain daily and orbital motions as a combined effect
within the 1461 calendar cycle.In human affairs there is always the
challenge to give our era more substance than the last one and nobody
is going to take away the technological achievements of the last few
centuries which have eclipsed interpretative sciences to a high degree
yet sometimes interpretative sciences,using the available
technologies ,leaps over technological innovation and starts to take
center stage and this is just one of these times.



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Old September 15th 11, 07:27 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Chris.B[_2_]
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On Sep 15, 1:11*pm, kelleher mimed:
snip OCD drivel
this is just one of these times.


That's deep!

Why are you here, precisely?

Does your total irrelevance amuse you, in some peculiar way, which we
mere mortals cannot possibly fathom?

Is your idea of world domination somehow tied to poor punctuation
skills?

Does the change from Mr 365.25 to Mr 1461 have some special
significance? Or is it just "global" inflation?

What's next? Mr 5844?

Surely not Mr 86164.1?

Coo-coo.. 8)
 




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