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  #21  
Old December 21st 08, 06:48 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Rand Simberg[_1_]
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Default Steve Lindsey - Astronaut Liar

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:34:58 -0500, in a place far, far away, "Greg D.
Moore \(Strider\)" made the phosphor
on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

"Rand Simberg" wrote in message
...

And once again, the non-stupid among us know that I was simply
employing a rhetorical device, not actually accusing you of
pedophilia, though your reaction to it was hilarious (methinks though
did protest too much).


And yet, you wonder why so many people here have lost any respect for you
when you resort to such ad hominem attacks.


It wasn't an "ad hominem attack."

And note that this comes from a paranoid lunatic who regularly accuses
me of "having 'Al-kalb' training," or having dark secret agendas, or
being a "military man."


And yet, you are willing to go even one level lower. Such class.


Are you also so mentally challenged as to believe with Ian that I
seriously accused him of pedophilia?
  #22  
Old December 21st 08, 06:54 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)
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"Rand Simberg" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:34:58 -0500, in a place far, far away, "Greg D.
Moore \(Strider\)" made the phosphor
on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

"Rand Simberg" wrote in message
...

And once again, the non-stupid among us know that I was simply
employing a rhetorical device, not actually accusing you of
pedophilia, though your reaction to it was hilarious (methinks though
did protest too much).


And yet, you wonder why so many people here have lost any respect for you
when you resort to such ad hominem attacks.


It wasn't an "ad hominem attack."


Umm, yes it was. Perhaps you should re-read your words. Rather than attack
the argument as specious as it was, or ignoring it, you chose to attack the
person.



And note that this comes from a paranoid lunatic who regularly accuses
me of "having 'Al-kalb' training," or having dark secret agendas, or
being a "military man."


And yet, you are willing to go even one level lower. Such class.


Are you also so mentally challenged as to believe with Ian that I
seriously accused him of pedophilia?


No. I never said that. But you seem to have really lost any sense of
reasoning in the last couple of years Rand.

I accused you of lack of class.

You really have become a sad case. You argue with trolls, you resort to
their tactics and deny reality. By almost any definition of the word that
makes you a troll, equal to them.






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  #23  
Old December 21st 08, 07:03 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Rand Simberg[_1_]
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:54:37 -0500, in a place far, far away, "Greg D.
Moore \(Strider\)" made the phosphor
on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

"Rand Simberg" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:34:58 -0500, in a place far, far away, "Greg D.
Moore \(Strider\)" made the phosphor
on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

"Rand Simberg" wrote in message
...

And once again, the non-stupid among us know that I was simply
employing a rhetorical device, not actually accusing you of
pedophilia, though your reaction to it was hilarious (methinks though
did protest too much).

And yet, you wonder why so many people here have lost any respect for you
when you resort to such ad hominem attacks.


It wasn't an "ad hominem attack."


Umm, yes it was. Perhaps you should re-read your words. Rather than attack
the argument as specious as it was, or ignoring it, you chose to attack the
person.


Nonsense. I used a classical rhetorical device to demonstrate the
illogic of his statement. Something which, to this day, he apparently
remains too stupid to understand.

And note that this comes from a paranoid lunatic who regularly accuses
me of "having 'Al-kalb' training," or having dark secret agendas, or
being a "military man."

And yet, you are willing to go even one level lower. Such class.


Are you also so mentally challenged as to believe with Ian that I
seriously accused him of pedophilia?


No. I never said that. But you seem to have really lost any sense of
reasoning in the last couple of years Rand.


Horsefeathers.

I accused you of lack of class.


On what basis?

You really have become a sad case. You argue with trolls, you resort to
their tactics and deny reality.


What "reality" is it that I'm supposedly denying?

I have not "resorted to Ian's tactics" (i.e., I have not behaved like
a paranoid idiot, and accused people of dark conspiracies and being
part of a government cabal). In any event, it's not a "tactic" on his
part. He's just nuts.
  #24  
Old December 21st 08, 09:02 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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Ian Parker Non Grata wrote:

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:37:24 -0800 (PST), Ian Parker
wrote:

I will again repeat - anonymous + 6 days does give rise to some quite
reasonable suspicion.


Quoting Robert Mosley III from the headers :

Organization : How many kids have you moleted today, Ian? Or is the day
still...young?

Oh, be quiet you child molesting little troll. The only reason you're
whining is that it's true. You *di* **** little children.

There. It's out in the open officially. Now, what are you going to do
about it other than whine and cry and squeal like a stuck hog?

Pervert.


Fascist.
  #25  
Old December 21st 08, 09:43 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:

You really have become a sad case. You argue with trolls, you resort to
their tactics and deny reality. By almost any definition of the word that
makes you a troll, equal to them.


Does this mean we have to see if he weighs more than a duck? :-)

Pat
  #26  
Old December 21st 08, 10:21 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
kT
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Default Conservative Republican Fascist Tactics of Robert Mosley III fromAustin, Texas USA.

Elfritz Non Grata wrote:

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:05:44 -0600, kT wrote:

Quoting Robert Mosley III of Austin, Texas, from the headers :


Thank you. As quick as you're replying, this proves the theory that


I'm still gathering evidence for your inevitable trial and disgrace :

Quoting Robert Mosley III from Austin, Texas, USA from the headers :


Organization : Here's another quote for you, you child molesting

troll: **** YOU!

Do I smell fear and hatred? It smells just like ****!
  #27  
Old December 21st 08, 10:38 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
kT
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Elfritz Non Grata wrote:

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:21:10 -0600, kT wrote:

I'm still gathering evidence for your inevitable trial and disgrace :


Then put up or shut up, you pathetic excuse for inhuman flesh.


I prefer to continue gathering evidence. It helps my case.

You couldn't sue your way out of a wet paper bag.


We shall see.
  #28  
Old December 21st 08, 10:45 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Ian Parker
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There have regularly been ad hominem attacks. I do not believe that
they have any place in a scientific discussion.

We must have vigorous dicussion. We must show no respect for
established or establuishment ideas, everything should be disputed.

Having said this though it is up to critics to explain logically why
people's ideas are wrong, to say someone is a lunastic etc. is NOT an
argument.

The basis of this discussion, as indeed is the case for quite a lot of
discussions in this. "Simple_language" a few weeks ago argued that the
laws of Physics meant that rockets were the most effective means of
getting into space and that capsules were the best way of getting
astronauts back. Winged vehicles were too heavy. He may be right or he
may not be. If he is right NASA were extremely foolish to abandon
Saturn and go for the winged Shuttle. If he is wrong a new generation
of shuttles should be built.

The point I am making here is that no one disputed his thesis
seriously in the thread. I therefore take it as read that NASA were
stupid to get rid of Saturn and that the Shuttle is a monstrosity.
This is really what we should be addressing ourselves too. Do we? Do
we heck?

When I halk about Al-kalb I am poining out the way America is viewed
in the Middle East. The journalist who threw his shoes at Bush is now,
rightly or wrongly an Arab hero. In the same way that no one (except
"simple_language") is prep\red to discuss the basic plank of NASA
theory and policy, so no one is really prepared to openly defend
policy in Iraq.

The Al-kalb remark of mine says in effectthat there is training in
disinformation, training on how to subvert the true purposes of a
scientific discusion group. They do not try to justify policies in any
reasoned way, they simply smear their opponents.

I read an article to the effect that the USA oonce in the lead in
science is now falling behing other countries. I wonder why.


- Ian Parker
  #29  
Old December 21st 08, 10:46 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Fred J. McCall[_3_]
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Ian Parker wrote:

:On 21 Dec, 15:25, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: Ian Parker wrote:
:
: :On 21 Dec, 00:30, kT wrote:: Alan Erskine wrote:
:
: : "Ian Parker" wrote in message
: : ...
: :
: : Could you come out in the open too hypocrite!
: :
: : I never thought I'd defend OM, but he's not the one who's threatening to
: : take legal action. *In this case (at least), OM's not a hypocrite.
: :
: : Robert Mosley III and Alan Erskine think that publicly calling anyone a
: : child molester on the internet is not actionable slander and defamation.
: :
: :+ Rand
: :
:
: How many times do sane people have to explain to you that Rand accused
: you of no such thing?
:
: Your constantly beating on that drum does leave one wondering about
: WHY you react that way...
:
:For once I have quoted the whole message, or almost all of it.
:
:http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci...d66d74f516c916
:Rand Simberg 112 you are vectored on this reference to 111.
:

Yes, I know what he said. It's not what you claim. Everyone but the
idiots among us recognized it as Rand demonstrating the fallacy of
'complex question', which you had engaged in in the immediately prior
article.

:
:Here it is. I am interested in the fact that the gutter right have
:said similar things to different people.
:

As have the gutter left; I give you the original claims about how
Sarah Palin's youngest child is really the concealed illegitimate
child of her daughter.

:
:It makes you think that the
:Pentagon, or whatever runs some sort of denial and smear traing
:course.
:

No, it makes YOU think that, but then you're a bloody loony.

:
:Rand who has not received the full "Al-kalb" training none the less
:does not do too badly.
:

Rand has never been in the military or associated with the military in
any way that I am aware of. That doesn't stop you from making up
stupid **** and then acting as if it is real.

:
:I will again repeat - anonymous + 6 days does give rise to some quite
:reasonable suspicion.
:

Only if you're a nut case - and you are.


--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
  #30  
Old December 21st 08, 11:00 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Fred J. McCall[_3_]
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Ian Parker wrote:
:
:There have regularly been ad hominem attacks.
:

For there to be 'ad hominem attacks' you would have to qualify as
'hominem'. You don't.

:
:I do not believe that
:they have any place in a scientific discussion.
:

Neither does insane logic, non sequiturs, lies, or any of the other
lunacy with which you lard your posts.

:
:When I halk about Al-kalb I am poining out the way America is viewed
:in the Middle East.
:

Who gives a **** what you think people in the Middle East think?

:
:The Al-kalb remark of mine says in effectthat there is training in
:disinformation, training on how to subvert the true purposes of a
:scientific discusion group. They do not try to justify policies in any
:reasoned way, they simply smear their opponents.
:

Yes, we're all well aware of your paranoid delusions by this point in
time.

:
:I read an article to the effect that the USA oonce in the lead in
:science is now falling behing other countries. I wonder why.
:

I don't believe you can actually read and understand anything. The
evidence here is certainly against you having any such capacity.


--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
 




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