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John Doe wrote:
What I heard was simply that they had noticed smoke over southern Iraq that morning. They were not asked if they had seen smoke over Iraq. Mr. Oberg and all others: I rest my case. Sincerely Bjørn Ove |
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"John Doe" wrote
In a separate question, he also said that they were able to view the violence in Iraq as they saw plumes of smoke coming out near the Iraq/Kuwait border this week. JimO wrote: Did any Russian cosmonauts ever remark on the plumes of smoke coming from Chechnya? Bjørn Ove Isaksen wrote in message ... I generaly respect you Mr. Oberg. But when you argument like this you justify the war because of how Russia does Chechnya. I newer thought I'd see you sink that deep. What make you so sure that he isn't already sink quite deep in the first place? After all, he already made some quite statements in the past that made one think if he isn't just another 'tool' being used (either knowingly or unknowingly). Anyway, there are possible reasons on why his response is like that: - A person just wondering if the plumes smoke coming from Chechnya can be seen by the ISS crew. Though if this is the case, to limit the amount of accidental damage to his innocent reply, he should have just said "Just wondering" or don't post a reply and then stop there, with no more posting. No talk about people being sensitive and then later on giving a half truth historical report. - A person that felt upset from the feeling that his favourite country is kinda being bashed and then kinda 'retaliate'. This is understandable. People upset and then afterward people tend to say not nice things. - A person that intended to provocate things. It's quite possible that he even cooperate with the originial poster. It's also possible that other posters are also cooperate (either knowingly or unknowngly). Sincerely Bjørn Ove And yes, there are a lot of things that can be seen from orbit. And no, you couldn't saw the Great Wall with your naked eye (without using telescope). You can have Yang Liwei's testament on that. Can you see (without a telescope) a highway from orbit? No, I don't think so, the same goes for the Great Wall (which is narrower than a highway). "It's widely accepted that in the Earth's orbit, which is normally 300 to 400 kilometres from the ground, only an object larger than 250,000 square metres can be seen by a person with normal vision." http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_319013.htm |
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Bjørn Ove Isaksen wrote in message ...
I will not try to justify what Russia does in Chechnya, I never liked it. The ones who made Russia does things in Chechnya are also the same ones who made the U.S.A. does things in Iraq. As always, remember the concepts of "Divide and conquer" and "Proxy war". People tend to think that some countries, some companies and some organization are a bunch of independant entities that are acting on their own, they tend to forget that these countries, companies, and organizations are possible organized by the same group. Sincerley Bjørn Ove |
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EAC wrote:
What make you so sure that he isn't already sink quite deep in the first place? After all, he already made some quite statements in the past that made one think if he isn't just another 'tool' being used (either knowingly or unknowingly). Because I know Mr. Oberg is generaly a reflected man. To make some conspiration theory of this (or anything else) has never been my idea. So instead of following up what I considered indicative I rest the case. Most people are positive of they're motherland, and patriotic. That is a result of both genetics (defend you and you're own) and enviroment. And there is nothing wrong with that unless it makes people blind. And I don't consider that man blind, though there are some others I could think are. Sincerely Bjørn Ove |
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NMP: "There were never any as huge. End of story."
Please don't act so know-it-all arrogant. Ground reports from Chechnya spoke of massive fuel depot fires and weeks-long plumes from multiple major pipeline fires. The north Caucasus has much more constant cloud cover, which could account for fewer images. But not fewer oil fires. "nmp" wrote in message news Op Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:09:17 +0000, schreef JimO: "John Doe" wrote In a separate question, he also said that they were able to view the violence in Iraq as they saw plumes of smoke coming out near the Iraq/Kuwait border this week. Did any Russian cosmonauts ever remark on the plumes of smoke coming from Chechnya? There were never any as huge. End of story. http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/...l/iss008e18935 ..html http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/...l/iss008e18938 ..html |
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