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msnbc/oberg: 'Murphy's Law' rules outer space
'Murphy's Law' rules outer space
.... And NASA still needs to learn how to evade it http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3033063/ Analysis By James Oberg NBC News space analyst // Special to MSNBC Updated: 8:18 p.m. ET Oct. 21, 2004 HOUSTON - In outer space, many earthly rules and standards don't apply. But if space exploration has proved anything, it is that like the universal Law of Gravity, the Law of Murphy also extends throughout the known universe. "If something can go wrong, it will go wrong," is the classic phrasing of the observation attributed to rocket scientist Edward A. Murphy Jr. half a century ago. But space historians point out that the original formulation of Murphy's Law was more limited: "Every component than can be installed backward, eventually will be." The latest proof is the highly embarrassing crash of NASA's Genesis capsule, carrying samples of the solar wind that were supposed to provide clues to the origin of the sun and the entire solar system. The parachutes failed to deploy over Utah last month, and the disk-shaped craft smashed into the ground at full speed. An investigation team has now determined that the deceleration sensors - the accelerometers - were all installed backwards. The craft's autopilot never got a clue that it had hit an atmosphere and that hard ground was just ahead. |
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"Jim Oberg" wrote in message
An investigation team has now determined that the deceleration sensors - the accelerometers - were all installed backwards. The craft's autopilot never got a clue that it had hit an atmosphere and that hard ground was just ahead. Actually, I figure that the autopilot should have had at least a clue that it had hit the atmosphere. The switches may have been installed backwards, but if memory serves me well, about half the time the craft was traveling _backwards_ in the atmosphere as it tumbled ... Jon |
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Jon S. Berndt jsb.at.hal-pc-dot.org wrote:
[...] Actually, I figure that the autopilot should have had at least a clue that it had hit the atmosphere. The switches may have been installed backwards, but if memory serves me well, about half the time the craft was traveling _backwards_ in the atmosphere as it tumbled ... The tumbling didn't start until after the capsule was past the re-entry phase... it was aerodynamically stable at hypersonic speeds (or else it would have burnt up in re-entry... the backshell didn't have much ablator on it, and was obviously not charred badly). By the time it went subsonic and unstable (without the drogue chute) it was probably at too low a dynamic pressure for the G-switches to activate even if it were upside down, though it is also possible that it was more of a case of them not activating for long enough to set off the timer. -george william herbert |
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October 22, 2004
Jim Oberg wrote: 'Murphy's Law' rules outer space And Jimmo still claims that flying saucers never crash :-) I never laughed so hard in my life when I saw that picture. I laughed so hard, I cried. Thomas Lee Elifritz http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net |
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"George William Herbert" wrote in message
Jon S. Berndt jsb.at.hal-pc-dot.org wrote: Actually, I figure that the autopilot should have had at least a clue that it had hit the atmosphere. The switches may have been installed backwards, but if memory serves me well, about half the time the craft was traveling _backwards_ in the atmosphere as it tumbled ... By the time it went subsonic and unstable (without the drogue chute) it was probably at too low a dynamic pressure for the G-switches to activate even if it were upside down, though it is also possible that it was more of a case of them not activating for long enough to set off the timer. -george william herbert Yeah, I considered that - I wasn't completely serious. Jon |
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The morale of the story here, I think, is that a
single sensor installed correctly is far more useful than two sets of redundant sensors installed incorrectly. And the morale of that is the same as the lesson allegedly learned with Mars Observer, Galileo, Mars Polar Lander, Mars Climate Orbiter, etc; namely that organization and management are as important as budget and design. If you can't put the design together properly then it doesn't matter how much the components cost or how much hardware redundancy there is. |
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"Christopher M. Jones" wrote
The morale of the story here, I think, is that a single sensor installed correctly is far more useful than two sets of redundant sensors installed incorrectly. And the morale of that is the same as Also: software (to cross-check other relevant parameters for sanity) isn't heavy and doesn't take up too much space. Backup systems should be present and shouldn't rely on the same paths. For instance, given the state of simulation and tracking that we have today, I'd bet that 8 hours prior to entry a timer could have been kicked off that would have pretty accurately been able to tell when the chute should have been deployed. Couple that with another independent parameter reading such as atmospheric pressure or nutation or something not possible in a vacuum and then you have a sanity check. Jon |
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"Christopher M. Jones" wrote in message ... The morale of the story here, I think, is that a single sensor installed correctly is far more useful than two sets of redundant sensors installed incorrectly. The morale of the story is that you can only do so much with redundant components. A better solution is often a redudnant subsystem or an entriely redudnant system or even vehicle. An example of this is the shuttle and Soyuz/Progress transports for ISS. Two entirely different systems to provide access for ISS. When there is a problem with one, the other can take up the slack. Soon there will be HTV and ATV to add to this. This level of redundancy does cost, but really pushes up the chances that you'll successfully complete the overall mission. And the morale of that is the same as the lesson allegedly learned with Mars Observer, Galileo, Mars Polar Lander, Mars Climate Orbiter, etc; namely that organization and management are as important as budget and design. If you can't put the design together properly then it doesn't matter how much the components cost or how much hardware redundancy there is. I'd actually say that integration testing and full up test flights are more important than budget and design. A test flight of Genesis to LEO and back would have quickly uncovered the sensor design flaw, without impacting the actual mission. Perhaps bolting the spacecraft to a "shake table" and subjecting it to the level of "g-load" that should trigger the parachutes would have been sufficient in this case, but could have missed other problems, like the sensor never getting tripped because the re-entry computer analysis was off a bit. Furthermore, more reusable spacecraft (allows you to test actual flight hardware then re-use it for the actual mission) and multiple copies of spacecraft will push up the overall reliability when compared to the typical one-off designs NASA seems to consistently come up with. The real problem with these one-off designs is that their one and only test flight is nearly always the operational mission. :-( Jeff -- Remove icky phrase from email address to get a valid address. |
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Jeff Findley wrote:
"Christopher M. Jones" wrote in message ... The morale of the story here, I think, is that a single sensor installed correctly is far more useful than two sets of redundant sensors installed incorrectly. The morale of the story is that you can only do so much with redundant components. A better solution is often a redudnant subsystem or an entriely redudnant system or even vehicle. An example of this is the shuttle and Soyuz/Progress transports for ISS. Two entirely different systems to provide access for ISS. When there is a problem with one, the other can take up the slack. Soon there will be HTV and ATV to add to this. This level of redundancy does cost, but really pushes up the chances that you'll successfully complete the overall mission. To bring in a different set of examples, Mars Polar Lander and Mars Climate Orbiter. Different designs, different spacecraft, different sub-systems, both failures. The reason behind the failures lies not in redundancy but in the organization. And the morale of that is the same as the lesson allegedly learned with Mars Observer, Galileo, Mars Polar Lander, Mars Climate Orbiter, etc; namely that organization and management are as important as budget and design. If you can't put the design together properly then it doesn't matter how much the components cost or how much hardware redundancy there is. I'd actually say that integration testing and full up test flights are more important than budget and design. A test flight of Genesis to LEO and back would have quickly uncovered the sensor design flaw, without impacting the actual mission. Perhaps bolting the spacecraft to a "shake table" and subjecting it to the level of "g-load" that should trigger the parachutes would have been sufficient in this case, but could have missed other problems, like the sensor never getting tripped because the re-entry computer analysis was off a bit. This also can fail. As with Galileo, where a g-test was performed on the Jupiter atmospheric probe. However, the test was invalid because the test harness was wired backwards (fyi, Oberg covers this in his article). An organization with a high rate of failure is also likely to have a high rate of failure in testing procedures. There is no silver bullet solution in design, or testing, or funding, or anything of that sort for organizational problems on this scale, the only solution is fixing the organization. Furthermore, more reusable spacecraft (allows you to test actual flight hardware then re-use it for the actual mission) and multiple copies of spacecraft will push up the overall reliability when compared to the typical one-off designs NASA seems to consistently come up with. The real problem with these one-off designs is that their one and only test flight is nearly always the operational mission. :-( Reusability doesn't necessarily gain you much depending on how you fly and test. If you fly irregularly and constantly tweak the vehicle then, as with the Shuttle, you never really know how reliable the mission is. If you fly regularly enough and start off with a serious testing regime then you can be more confident. However, for experiments like Genesis this really isn't the answer. A more bug-tested spacecraft bus (and return capsule) would help, but the spacecraft would still be fairly custom. |
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"Jeff Findley" wrote: "Christopher M. Jones" wrote in message ... The morale of the story here, I think, is that a single sensor installed correctly is far more useful than two sets of redundant sensors installed incorrectly. The morale of the story is that you can only do so much with redundant components. A better solution is often a redudnant subsystem or an entriely redudnant system or even vehicle. I'd say the real moral of the story is that components should be designed in such a way that they can't be installed backwards. This isn't difficult; it's just something the component engineers didn't think to do. It should be a standard design habit. If an engineering firm tends to design symmetrical components that look the same forwards as backwards or upside-down, they should be fired and replaced with a firm in the routine habit of making their stuff asymmetrical. ,------------------------------------------------------------------. | Joseph J. Strout Check out the Mac Web Directory: | | http://www.macwebdir.com | `------------------------------------------------------------------' |
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