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I can't find the exact one at the moment, but it was a 10" Newtonian
Reflector (similar to the C10-N which seems to be around 87 pounds). The C10-N OTA probably weighs about 35lbs. As far as I can see it is just a XT-10 OTA mounted on a EQ mount, after all, both Celestron and Orion get their Asian stuff from the same manufacturer, Synta. The total weight of the mount and the scope including counter weights is likely 87 lbs. After having mounted my 8 inch F6 OTA on a late model CG-5 with a heavy duty tripod, I would be think that the Atlas mount is the minimun for the 10 inch F5. The 8 inch OTA is about 22 lbs as compared to 35lb and a couple of inches shorter. It was just not steady enough for my taste. jon |
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I can't find the exact one at the moment, but it was a 10" Newtonian
Reflector (similar to the C10-N which seems to be around 87 pounds). The C10-N OTA probably weighs about 35lbs. As far as I can see it is just a XT-10 OTA mounted on a EQ mount, after all, both Celestron and Orion get their Asian stuff from the same manufacturer, Synta. The total weight of the mount and the scope including counter weights is likely 87 lbs. After having mounted my 8 inch F6 OTA on a late model CG-5 with a heavy duty tripod, I would be think that the Atlas mount is the minimun for the 10 inch F5. The 8 inch OTA is about 22 lbs as compared to 35lb and a couple of inches shorter. It was just not steady enough for my taste. jon |
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Mount specifications??
I can't find the exact one at the moment, but it was a 10" Newtonian
Reflector (similar to the C10-N which seems to be around 87 pounds). The C10-N OTA probably weighs about 35lbs. As far as I can see it is just a XT-10 OTA mounted on a EQ mount, after all, both Celestron and Orion get their Asian stuff from the same manufacturer, Synta. The total weight of the mount and the scope including counter weights is likely 87 lbs. After having mounted my 8 inch F6 OTA on a late model CG-5 with a heavy duty tripod, I would be think that the Atlas mount is the minimun for the 10 inch F5. The 8 inch OTA is about 22 lbs as compared to 35lb and a couple of inches shorter. It was just not steady enough for my taste. jon |
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Edward Smith wrote in message . ..
I can't find the exact one at the moment, but it was a 10" Newtonian Reflector (similar to the C10-N which seems to be around 87 pounds). The 10" Asian Newts go about 35lbs (OTA only). I really can't imagine the CG-5 being able to handle these very well. As was pointed out elsewhere, it's not the weight, it's the 48 inches. I wouldn't expect the CG-5 to handle more than a 6" F8 (also 48 inches), but rock solid it might be with a 6" F5. I'm guessing this is part of the reason that SCTs are so popular. An 8" SCT OTA weighs in at 13 lbs, and is only 21 inches long. Not sure about the 9.25/10/11" SCTs, but some searching will surely turn up a number. One ideal inexpensive setup for someone who wants to mess around with imaging, is an older EQ Fork mounted (manual) 8" SCT and a Starlight Xpress MX5-C CCD camera with the USB interface and STAR. You won't get the detail or large vistas possible with higher end equipment, but it will teach you important first things. Like how to setup an imaging system (polar alignment, cabling, and software), the difficulty of achieving focus, and how to process images using software. Or, stated another way, it will test your committment to getting results. g I've had this setup for over a year now, and I have less than 10 serious sessions under my belt. There's no hurry, but good results are dependent on a lot of factors, the atmosphere included. That said, I also have an Asian 10" F5 Dob that I use for observing, and I'm planning to trade up for a 13.1" F4.5 sometime this year. My advice is to not buy one scope that you will use for both imaging and visual astronomy. Get a Dob to see with, and something else for imaging. A 10" Asian Dob can he had dirt cheap, as can a used Celestron Celestar 8 Deluxe, or if you get really lucky, an Ultima 8-PEC (like mine). But those are just examples. Used LX-200 8"-ers are also going for reasonable coin these days, if you want GoTo for the imager. (Personally, I wouldn't bother with GoTo for an imaging platform until you're sure you want to pursue that hobby in earnest. Finding stuff to image in the beginning just isn't that hard. You could spend years just working on the Messier objects.) While I only have experience with the Ultima 8-PEC/MX5-C setup, there are the Vixen GP-DX and Losmandy GM-8 class GEMs which apparently can handle any number of OTA's up to 25 lbs depending on length. These appear to serve well for smaller wide field refractors, and up to 8" SCT class OTAs (there's also the 5" and 6" Russian Maks to consider for imaging). Anyway, there's lots of choices once you start thinking about imaging. This muddies the waters for visual astronomy, as they are really two different animals. Someone who pursues imaging in earnest, will ultimately have a telescope that works _very well_ for visual use within the limits of its aperture. Someone looking to _see_ stuff in the sky from their backyard, or nearby dark site, is better served with the largest aperture scope they can carry. The 10" Asian Dob, is a good choice for a drag and drop scope. Good Luck, Stephen Paul |
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Edward Smith wrote in message . ..
I can't find the exact one at the moment, but it was a 10" Newtonian Reflector (similar to the C10-N which seems to be around 87 pounds). The 10" Asian Newts go about 35lbs (OTA only). I really can't imagine the CG-5 being able to handle these very well. As was pointed out elsewhere, it's not the weight, it's the 48 inches. I wouldn't expect the CG-5 to handle more than a 6" F8 (also 48 inches), but rock solid it might be with a 6" F5. I'm guessing this is part of the reason that SCTs are so popular. An 8" SCT OTA weighs in at 13 lbs, and is only 21 inches long. Not sure about the 9.25/10/11" SCTs, but some searching will surely turn up a number. One ideal inexpensive setup for someone who wants to mess around with imaging, is an older EQ Fork mounted (manual) 8" SCT and a Starlight Xpress MX5-C CCD camera with the USB interface and STAR. You won't get the detail or large vistas possible with higher end equipment, but it will teach you important first things. Like how to setup an imaging system (polar alignment, cabling, and software), the difficulty of achieving focus, and how to process images using software. Or, stated another way, it will test your committment to getting results. g I've had this setup for over a year now, and I have less than 10 serious sessions under my belt. There's no hurry, but good results are dependent on a lot of factors, the atmosphere included. That said, I also have an Asian 10" F5 Dob that I use for observing, and I'm planning to trade up for a 13.1" F4.5 sometime this year. My advice is to not buy one scope that you will use for both imaging and visual astronomy. Get a Dob to see with, and something else for imaging. A 10" Asian Dob can he had dirt cheap, as can a used Celestron Celestar 8 Deluxe, or if you get really lucky, an Ultima 8-PEC (like mine). But those are just examples. Used LX-200 8"-ers are also going for reasonable coin these days, if you want GoTo for the imager. (Personally, I wouldn't bother with GoTo for an imaging platform until you're sure you want to pursue that hobby in earnest. Finding stuff to image in the beginning just isn't that hard. You could spend years just working on the Messier objects.) While I only have experience with the Ultima 8-PEC/MX5-C setup, there are the Vixen GP-DX and Losmandy GM-8 class GEMs which apparently can handle any number of OTA's up to 25 lbs depending on length. These appear to serve well for smaller wide field refractors, and up to 8" SCT class OTAs (there's also the 5" and 6" Russian Maks to consider for imaging). Anyway, there's lots of choices once you start thinking about imaging. This muddies the waters for visual astronomy, as they are really two different animals. Someone who pursues imaging in earnest, will ultimately have a telescope that works _very well_ for visual use within the limits of its aperture. Someone looking to _see_ stuff in the sky from their backyard, or nearby dark site, is better served with the largest aperture scope they can carry. The 10" Asian Dob, is a good choice for a drag and drop scope. Good Luck, Stephen Paul |
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Edward Smith wrote in message . ..
I can't find the exact one at the moment, but it was a 10" Newtonian Reflector (similar to the C10-N which seems to be around 87 pounds). The 10" Asian Newts go about 35lbs (OTA only). I really can't imagine the CG-5 being able to handle these very well. As was pointed out elsewhere, it's not the weight, it's the 48 inches. I wouldn't expect the CG-5 to handle more than a 6" F8 (also 48 inches), but rock solid it might be with a 6" F5. I'm guessing this is part of the reason that SCTs are so popular. An 8" SCT OTA weighs in at 13 lbs, and is only 21 inches long. Not sure about the 9.25/10/11" SCTs, but some searching will surely turn up a number. One ideal inexpensive setup for someone who wants to mess around with imaging, is an older EQ Fork mounted (manual) 8" SCT and a Starlight Xpress MX5-C CCD camera with the USB interface and STAR. You won't get the detail or large vistas possible with higher end equipment, but it will teach you important first things. Like how to setup an imaging system (polar alignment, cabling, and software), the difficulty of achieving focus, and how to process images using software. Or, stated another way, it will test your committment to getting results. g I've had this setup for over a year now, and I have less than 10 serious sessions under my belt. There's no hurry, but good results are dependent on a lot of factors, the atmosphere included. That said, I also have an Asian 10" F5 Dob that I use for observing, and I'm planning to trade up for a 13.1" F4.5 sometime this year. My advice is to not buy one scope that you will use for both imaging and visual astronomy. Get a Dob to see with, and something else for imaging. A 10" Asian Dob can he had dirt cheap, as can a used Celestron Celestar 8 Deluxe, or if you get really lucky, an Ultima 8-PEC (like mine). But those are just examples. Used LX-200 8"-ers are also going for reasonable coin these days, if you want GoTo for the imager. (Personally, I wouldn't bother with GoTo for an imaging platform until you're sure you want to pursue that hobby in earnest. Finding stuff to image in the beginning just isn't that hard. You could spend years just working on the Messier objects.) While I only have experience with the Ultima 8-PEC/MX5-C setup, there are the Vixen GP-DX and Losmandy GM-8 class GEMs which apparently can handle any number of OTA's up to 25 lbs depending on length. These appear to serve well for smaller wide field refractors, and up to 8" SCT class OTAs (there's also the 5" and 6" Russian Maks to consider for imaging). Anyway, there's lots of choices once you start thinking about imaging. This muddies the waters for visual astronomy, as they are really two different animals. Someone who pursues imaging in earnest, will ultimately have a telescope that works _very well_ for visual use within the limits of its aperture. Someone looking to _see_ stuff in the sky from their backyard, or nearby dark site, is better served with the largest aperture scope they can carry. The 10" Asian Dob, is a good choice for a drag and drop scope. Good Luck, Stephen Paul |
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Edward Smith wrote:
SNIP I've been reading what the "standard" telescope comes with in a package. Now, Celestron sells a wide variety of their telescopes with a CG-5 mount. These telescopes weigh anywhere from 25 pounds to over 100. I can't find any information on the load bearing capability of the mounts themselves, though. It isn't just Celestron. Orion, Meade, everybody seems to do the same thing. So where is there information on mounts? A telescope that wobbles and vibrates all over the place isn't going to be much good. Takahashi certainly provide information on their mounts including the load bearing capacity and, importantly, the tracking accuracy. For specifications have a look at the takahashi pages at Adirondack (USA) http://www.astrovid.com/ Optique Unterlinden (France) http://www.optique-unterlinden.com/ The French site gives more technical details than the USA site including optimum as well as maximum load. Hope this helps you, I'm sure that AP and SoftwareBisque (Paramount ME) and indeed some other manufacturers also provide the detailed information you rightly seek. Dr Peter R Hobson Reader, Department of Electronic and Computer Engineering Brunel University, Uxbridge UB8 3PH G.B. |
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Edward Smith wrote:
SNIP I've been reading what the "standard" telescope comes with in a package. Now, Celestron sells a wide variety of their telescopes with a CG-5 mount. These telescopes weigh anywhere from 25 pounds to over 100. I can't find any information on the load bearing capability of the mounts themselves, though. It isn't just Celestron. Orion, Meade, everybody seems to do the same thing. So where is there information on mounts? A telescope that wobbles and vibrates all over the place isn't going to be much good. Takahashi certainly provide information on their mounts including the load bearing capacity and, importantly, the tracking accuracy. For specifications have a look at the takahashi pages at Adirondack (USA) http://www.astrovid.com/ Optique Unterlinden (France) http://www.optique-unterlinden.com/ The French site gives more technical details than the USA site including optimum as well as maximum load. Hope this helps you, I'm sure that AP and SoftwareBisque (Paramount ME) and indeed some other manufacturers also provide the detailed information you rightly seek. Dr Peter R Hobson Reader, Department of Electronic and Computer Engineering Brunel University, Uxbridge UB8 3PH G.B. |
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Edward Smith wrote:
SNIP I've been reading what the "standard" telescope comes with in a package. Now, Celestron sells a wide variety of their telescopes with a CG-5 mount. These telescopes weigh anywhere from 25 pounds to over 100. I can't find any information on the load bearing capability of the mounts themselves, though. It isn't just Celestron. Orion, Meade, everybody seems to do the same thing. So where is there information on mounts? A telescope that wobbles and vibrates all over the place isn't going to be much good. Takahashi certainly provide information on their mounts including the load bearing capacity and, importantly, the tracking accuracy. For specifications have a look at the takahashi pages at Adirondack (USA) http://www.astrovid.com/ Optique Unterlinden (France) http://www.optique-unterlinden.com/ The French site gives more technical details than the USA site including optimum as well as maximum load. Hope this helps you, I'm sure that AP and SoftwareBisque (Paramount ME) and indeed some other manufacturers also provide the detailed information you rightly seek. Dr Peter R Hobson Reader, Department of Electronic and Computer Engineering Brunel University, Uxbridge UB8 3PH G.B. |
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Edward Smith wrote:
SNIP I've been reading what the "standard" telescope comes with in a package. Now, Celestron sells a wide variety of their telescopes with a CG-5 mount. These telescopes weigh anywhere from 25 pounds to over 100. I can't find any information on the load bearing capability of the mounts themselves, though. It isn't just Celestron. Orion, Meade, everybody seems to do the same thing. So where is there information on mounts? A telescope that wobbles and vibrates all over the place isn't going to be much good. Takahashi certainly provide information on their mounts including the load bearing capacity and, importantly, the tracking accuracy. For specifications have a look at the takahashi pages at Adirondack (USA) http://www.astrovid.com/ Optique Unterlinden (France) http://www.optique-unterlinden.com/ The French site gives more technical details than the USA site including optimum as well as maximum load. Hope this helps you, I'm sure that AP and SoftwareBisque (Paramount ME) and indeed some other manufacturers also provide the detailed information you rightly seek. Dr Peter R Hobson Reader, Department of Electronic and Computer Engineering Brunel University, Uxbridge UB8 3PH G.B. |
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