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Old September 23rd 13, 11:34 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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Default Equinox! Kelleher, answer a question.

On Monday, September 23, 2013 9:02:55 AM UTC+1, Lord Androcles wrote:
What is the height of the sun above your horizon, Kelleher? NOW! TODAY! AT

NOON!


Here is the Sun/Earth comparison

http://d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net...thcompared.jpg

Now child,when you grow up and come to understand that 'above the Sun' is not the way to explain the Equinox in dynamical terms then you can speak to me but not before then.


Today, in London, latitude 52 degrees, at 12:00:00, the sun will appear at

90-52 = 38 degrees above the southern horizon, the tilt of the Earth toward

the sun is zero.


A empirical drone like yourself is lost in the world of astronomy and can't make sense of the polar coordinates as a window into the orbital behavior of the Earth and at the Equinox those coordinates lie on the circle of illumination as they turn about the ecliptic axis,in the case of the Earth,the ecliptic axis is defined by a line that runs parallel with the terminator -

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/...mericas250.jpg

Axial inclination is fixed so 'tilt' towards and away from the Sun is unhelpful when defining planetary climate is concerned as the 23 1/2 degree difference between the rotational and ecliptic axis define climate within a spectrum between Equatorial and Polar.

If the Earth had zero degree inclination it would experience Equatorial conditions in seeing minimal surface fluctuations in temperature, daylight/darkness asymmetry and so on through an annual circuit.This is how men think and not like attention seeking intellectual dogs like yourself who hate everything,including yourselves.






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Old September 23rd 13, 12:27 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default Equinox! Kelleher, answer a question.

On Monday, September 23, 2013 11:52:12 AM UTC+1, Lord Androcles wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message

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On Monday, September 23, 2013 9:02:55 AM UTC+1, Lord Androcles wrote:

What is the height of the sun above your horizon, Kelleher? NOW! TODAY! AT




NOON!


Today, in London, latitude 52 degrees, at 12:00:00, the sun will appear at




90-52 = 38 degrees above the southern horizon, the tilt of the Earth


toward




the sun is zero.



What I wouldn't give to speak to a reasonable person about the need to keep inclination constant at 23 1/2 degrees through an annual cycle thereby dropping this notion of variable 'tilt' towards and away from the Sun because to retain the former for defining climate,the latter has to go.

All I have to work with is a worthless empirical drone making a nuisance of himself with his zero inclination to the Sun in describing the Equinox.At least you are serving a purpose in allowing me to demonstrate why fixed inclination is absolutely necessary in order to make sense of global climate in the only forum left to discuss these matters.

For goodness sake,would someone acknowledge the orbital day /night cycle and its orbital cause by shifting to the perspective that the polar coordinates are a window into that cycle instead of using the polar coordinates as 'tilt'.




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Old September 23rd 13, 02:35 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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Default Equinox! Kelleher, answer a question.

On Monday, September 23, 2013 9:02:55 AM UTC+1, Lord Androcles wrote:

Today, in London, latitude 52 degrees, at 12:00:00, the sun will appear at

90-52 = 38 degrees above the southern horizon, the tilt of the Earth toward

the sun is zero.


The way empiricists try to explain the Equinox using 'tilt' is a joke that nobody should laugh at.Zero tilt to the Sun indeed,let me show you what it looks like ! -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ea...equinox_EN.png

There are even worse versions such as the repulsive 'tilt' in the circle of illumination -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...easonearth.png

What happens to the polar latitudes of Uranus happens to the polar coordinates of the Earth as they maintain a fixed orientation in space and at a constant angle to the ecliptic axis around which they are carried around in a circle to the central Sun -

http://images.sciencedaily.com/2007/...1039-large.jpg

The climate spectrum between 0 Degrees and 90 Degrees is crucial but it ain't going to be appreciated by the 'Equinox/zero inclination to the Sun' mob.














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Old September 23rd 13, 05:02 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default Equinox! Kelleher, answer a question.

What is the height of the sun above your horizon, Kelleher? NOW! TODAY! AT
NOON!
You won't answer,
1) Because you don't know.
2) Because you won't look.
3) Because you are ****ing stupid.

Today, in London, latitude 52 degrees, at 12:00:00, the sun will appear at
90-52 = 38 degrees above the southern horizon, the tilt of the Earth toward
the sun is zero.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPWHfrU3PSQ

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Old September 23rd 13, 07:51 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"oriel36" wrote in message
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On Monday, September 23, 2013 9:02:55 AM UTC+1, Lord Androcles wrote:
What is the height of the sun above your horizon, Kelleher? NOW! TODAY! AT

NOON!
Today, in London, latitude 52 degrees, at 12:00:00, the sun will appear at

90-52 = 38 degrees above the southern horizon, the tilt of the Earth
toward

the sun is zero.

As predicted:
You won't answer,
1) Because you don't know.
2) Because you won't look.
3) Because you are ****ing stupid.

All you need is a vertical stick in the ground and measure the length
of its shadow at noon.
Angle = arctan(length(stick)/length(shadow))
You are so ****ing stupid you've never even heard of the tangent of an
angle.

-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

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Old September 23rd 13, 08:59 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default Equinox! Kelleher, answer a question.



"oriel36" wrote in message
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On Monday, September 23, 2013 11:52:12 AM UTC+1, Lord Androcles wrote:
"oriel36" wrote in message

...



On Monday, September 23, 2013 9:02:55 AM UTC+1, Lord Androcles wrote:

What is the height of the sun above your horizon, Kelleher? NOW! TODAY!
AT




NOON!


Today, in London, latitude 52 degrees, at 12:00:00, the sun will appear
at




90-52 = 38 degrees above the southern horizon, the tilt of the Earth


toward




the sun is zero.



What I wouldn't give
==============================================
Wrong answer, cretin.

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Old September 23rd 13, 09:17 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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Default Equinox! Kelleher, answer a question.

On Monday, September 23, 2013 5:16:15 PM UTC+1, Lord Androcles wrote:

Today, in London, latitude 52 degrees, at 12:00:00, the sun will appear at

90-52 = 38 degrees above the southern horizon, the tilt of the Earth toward

the sun is zero.


Here is what your zero 'tilt' looks like -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ea...equinox_EN.png

It exists only inside the imaginations of those who are too lazy to reason their way through the actual description.

You start with the fact that,in the absence of daily rotation,all locations on the surface of the Earth turn once to the central Sun about an ecliptic axis hence the polar coordinates are a window into the orbital behavior and not the cause of anything.

You may be a lord in the relativity forums but here you are just another cookie cutter empiricist and life is too short to get mixed up in that sort of mediocrity.


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Old September 23rd 13, 10:50 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default Equinox! Kelleher, answer a question.

On Monday, September 23, 2013 9:36:55 PM UTC+1, Lord Androcles wrote:

Today, in London, latitude 52 degrees, at 12:00:00, the sun will appear at




90-52 = 38 degrees above the southern horizon, the tilt of the Earth


toward




the sun is zero.



-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway


The next time you jokers assert that the Equinox can be described as zero tilt to the Sun or any other variation on the theme,this is what it looks like -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ea...equinox_EN.png

This is serious business that is also enjoyable for had the Earth zero inclination it is easy enough to see from the image about what an Equatorial climate looks like,if a 90 Degree inclination then a polar climate.

This is an escape for people who wish to see an end to an unsightly squabble of climate change that will never end in its present form.





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Old September 24th 13, 01:15 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default Equinox! Kelleher, answer a question.



"oriel36" wrote in message
...

On Monday, September 23, 2013 9:02:55 AM UTC+1, Lord Androcles wrote:

Today, in London, latitude 52 degrees, at 12:00:00, the sun will appear at

90-52 = 38 degrees above the southern horizon, the tilt of the Earth
toward

the sun is zero.


The way
=================================================
Wrong answer, ****head.
What is the height of the sun above your horizon, Kelleher? NOW! TODAY! AT
NOON!
You won't answer,
1) Because you don't know.
2) Because you won't look.
3) Because you are ****ing stupid.

Today, in London, latitude 52 degrees, at 12:00:00, the sun will appear at
90-52 = 38 degrees above the southern horizon, the tilt of the Earth toward
the sun is zero.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPWHfrU3PSQ

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Old September 24th 13, 02:17 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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Default Equinox! Kelleher, answer a question.

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 12:05:42 AM UTC+1, Lord Androcles wrote:

Of course you do, little baby Jesus, three wise men from Iran crossing the

Arabian desert by starlight to hold out gold, frankincense and embalming

fluid* as a gift, Mary never got ****ed to get pregnant, sheltered in a

stable beside an inn to pay Roman taxes because Joseph's credit card was

declined, used an animal feed trough for a crib and all that crap?



* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myrrh



-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway


Why stop there.The genealogy of Jesus in Matthew is far more interesting mathematically and besides the author reversed the lineage in the first line which at first looks like a mistake -

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+1&version=NIV

All you mathematical whiz kids haven't figured out why the number 14 is unique among all other numbers but I assure you I have figured it out as it applies to the genealogical structure and mathematically without any adornment.
 




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