Antecedent for climate modeling

On Feb 2, 5:18*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:

* *The Moon has intrinsic rotation with a maximum equatorial speed that
* *can be seen from any point in space. A single rotation takes
* *27.321582 days compared to 23 hr 56 min 4.1 sec for the earth.

When does this grinding pedantry end? After 1k replies? After 10k
replies? After 100k replies? After 1M replies? 10 Million? Name your
personal limit so we can all go away for several centuries. Safe in
the knowledge that nothing, whatever, will happen here until you grow
too physically enfeebled to respond.

If you are not Kelleher, masquerading under Wormley's user name, then
I nominate you personally as the one directly responsible for his
totalitarian dictatorship of s.a.a. You are singularly responsible for
s.a.a. becoming a vehicle for your idol's rise to fame and rabid
idiocy. Without your constant devotion Kelleher would be an unknown
retard who posted his tripe only occasionally to constant derision.
With your mind-numbing adoration he has become s.a.a..

You, alone, hold the power in your hands to end this obscene charade
now. Stop responding until he grows bored with his own monologues.
Nothing could be simpler. No whimpering pretence of educating the
masses. No need for nicotine patches. No pathetic whining that you are
correcting his mistakes for his own good. The ****wit is leading you
around by the nose like a show calf. Nobody bothers to read your
gruesomely pedantic responses any more. Except your fellow fanboy,
John Savard: The vice-chair of the Kelleher Adoration and Brown Nosers
club.

Your moms must be proud, quislings!

On Feb 2, 2:23*am, oriel36 wrote:
while fiction is fine in terms of a story or a movie,too
many are influenced by the tendency to project fiction into actual
experience.

Commenting on the kind of orbit the Enterprise should have had in
order for the events of the show to make sense is projecting actual
experience into fiction, not the other way around.

John Savard

On Feb 2, 4:18*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/2/11 12:53 AM, oriel36 wrote:









On Feb 1, 10:37 pm, Sam *wrote:
On 2/1/11 3:28 PM, oriel36 wrote:

The Earth rotates,it has a maximum equatorial speed reducing to zero
speed at the polar coordinates,the idea of the moon having an
intrinsic rotation with the same rotational characteristics is plainly
an unintelligent proposal that is easily dismissed.

* * Rotation is absolute in this universe. Most bodies have some
* * intrinsic rotation including the sun, moon and earth.

* * Sun * * *24.47 days

All rotating celestial objects with viscous compositions have
differential rotation ,depending on composition,viscosity and maximum
equatorial speed,the uneven rotational gradient between equatorial and
polar coordinates causes a deviation from a perfect spherical shape. A
fundamental fact is that the rotation period at different latitudes
vary where exposed viscous compositions are observed and where a
rotating viscous composition with a spherical deviation is hidden
behind a thin fractured crust (Earth),differential rotation is
inferred.

You probably don't notice but the link between planetary shape and
crustal motion/evolution has the highest probability of being
explained using the common rotational mechanism with differential
rotation as a trait,it is not that you got the answer wrong with the
Sun but the details of an uneven rotational gradient contain an
incredible amount of information -

http://www.physics.hku.hk/~nature/CD.../images/chap11...

* * Earth * *23 hr 56 min 4.1 sec

The correct answer is *that the Earth turns once in 24 hours where 15
degrees of geographical separation corresponds to 1 hour organized
around the Earth's rotational characteristics but even that value is
conditional as it borrows from the averaging process which creates the
24 hour day and the arithmetical progression of these days as a
substitution for steady rotation.If you are getting 366 1/4 rotations
in a year where known experience encounters no more than a full 365
passages of the Sun to noon and consequently the effect of 365 day/
night cycles then you must assume something is wrong with your
perspective.

Without doubt,this is a matter that extends way beyond science for
while it has been front and center for the best part of a decade,it
demonstrates just how intransigent the empirical community is on
correcting and dealing with fundamental facts,everything else is
secondary.

* * Moon * * 27.321582 days

Look out your window over the next month and enjoy the spectacle of
the moon orbiting the Earth and its motion influencing how much of its
surface is hidden or exposed behind its circle of illumination,that
circle representing exposure to the light of the Sun.While it is
lovely to consider the moon's phases just like there is incredible
enjoyment in watching the Sun rise and set,from a technical
standpoint,those lunar phases represent orbital characteristics where
the lunar circle of illumination is constant so that changes involved
are orbital traits and nothing else.

The Earth has intrinsic rotation with a maximum equatorial speed that
can be seen from any point in space and especially seen from the near
side of a moon that doesn't rotate -

* *So does the moon!

* *The Moon has intrinsic rotation with a maximum equatorial speed that
* *can be seen from any point in space.

No Sam,common sense should intervene in order to make comparisons
between the moon's orbital circuit of the Earth and the Earth's
orbital circuit of the Sun as the characteristics are different,as the
orbital daylight/darkness cycle on Earth is best experienced at the
polar coordinates where those latitudes turn through the circle of
illumination hence 6 months of darkness turns into 6 months of
daylight (other than atmospheric refraction for the picky).The
usefulness of Uranus being that the Equatorial rings act almost like
an orbital longitude meridian expressing that orbital turning to the
central Sun -

http://astro.berkeley.edu/~imke/Infr..._2001_2005.jpg

Assigning intrinsic lunar rotation only testifies to the obstacles
place before comprehension of the Earth's orbital characteristic drawn
down from direct observations of Uranus or imitation analogies,either
way,it is already an injustice that it has been left to drift even as
this original work by me is now thrown back at me as an assertion
which represents a worse fate than being rejected.

I specifically set aside this week so that the nuisances would post
something of astronomical relevance so that they could show how well
their view stand up rather than being unproductive complainers,as you
set out your stall and do so with conviction I have commended you for
that but those who pressure you have the power only to annoy sheep and
are best left to their own devices.This is serious business Sam and
there is not a single place other than the few unmoderated forums to
bring out these topics,where they originated,what others thought about
the technical details and how to resolve them.There is no appeal for
favor or reward,just the rising of an astronomical standard that is
long overdue.



A single rotation takes
* *27.321582 days compared to 23 hr 56 min 4.1 sec for the earth.

There is a huge logjam with respect to dynamics and timekeeping that
when streamlined will bring clarity to dynamics which are now buried
under a blizzard of time acronyms and wishful thinking,from time to
time I have come across the quandary others faced without resolving
the issue whereas we can now and that is probably the most infuriating
part,we can do it,nobody else could but we actually can.

You are doing your job with your convictions but can so easily adjust
while sacrificing nothing and gaining so powerful insights provided by
contemporary imaging and that is positive astronomy Sam,that is what
makes the celestial arena such a thrilling spectacle.

On Feb 2, 7:00*pm, oriel36 wrote:
On Feb 2, 4:18*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:



On 2/2/11 12:53 AM, oriel36 wrote:

On Feb 1, 10:37 pm, Sam *wrote:
On 2/1/11 3:28 PM, oriel36 wrote:

The Earth rotates,it has a maximum equatorial speed reducing to zero
speed at the polar coordinates,the idea of the moon having an
intrinsic rotation with the same rotational characteristics is plainly
an unintelligent proposal that is easily dismissed.

* * Rotation is absolute in this universe. Most bodies have some
* * intrinsic rotation including the sun, moon and earth.

* * Sun * * *24.47 days

All rotating celestial objects with viscous compositions have
differential rotation ,depending on composition,viscosity and maximum
equatorial speed,the uneven rotational gradient between equatorial and
polar coordinates causes a deviation from a perfect spherical shape. A
fundamental fact is that the rotation period at different latitudes
vary where exposed viscous compositions are observed and where a
rotating viscous composition with a spherical deviation is hidden
behind a thin fractured crust (Earth),differential rotation is
inferred.

You probably don't notice but the link between planetary shape and
crustal motion/evolution has the highest probability of being
explained using the common rotational mechanism with differential
rotation as a trait,it is not that you got the answer wrong with the
Sun but the details of an uneven rotational gradient contain an
incredible amount of information -

http://www.physics.hku.hk/~nature/CD.../images/chap11....

* * Earth * *23 hr 56 min 4.1 sec

The correct answer is *that the Earth turns once in 24 hours where 15
degrees of geographical separation corresponds to 1 hour organized
around the Earth's rotational characteristics but even that value is
conditional as it borrows from the averaging process which creates the
24 hour day and the arithmetical progression of these days as a
substitution for steady rotation.If you are getting 366 1/4 rotations
in a year where known experience encounters no more than a full 365
passages of the Sun to noon and consequently the effect of 365 day/
night cycles then you must assume something is wrong with your
perspective.

Without doubt,this is a matter that extends way beyond science for
while it has been front and center for the best part of a decade,it
demonstrates just how intransigent the empirical community is on
correcting and dealing with fundamental facts,everything else is
secondary.

* * Moon * * 27.321582 days

Look out your window over the next month and enjoy the spectacle of
the moon orbiting the Earth and its motion influencing how much of its
surface is hidden or exposed behind its circle of illumination,that
circle representing exposure to the light of the Sun.While it is
lovely to consider the moon's phases just like there is incredible
enjoyment in watching the Sun rise and set,from a technical
standpoint,those lunar phases represent orbital characteristics where
the lunar circle of illumination is constant so that changes involved
are orbital traits and nothing else.

The Earth has intrinsic rotation with a maximum equatorial speed that
can be seen from any point in space and especially seen from the near
side of a moon that doesn't rotate -

* *So does the moon!

* *The Moon has intrinsic rotation with a maximum equatorial speed that
* *can be seen from any point in space.

No Sam,common sense should intervene in order to make comparisons
between the moon's orbital circuit of the Earth and the Earth's
orbital circuit of the Sun as the characteristics are different,as the
orbital daylight/darkness cycle on Earth is best experienced at the
polar coordinates where those latitudes turn through the circle of
illumination hence 6 months of darkness turns into 6 months of
daylight (other than atmospheric refraction for the picky).The
usefulness of Uranus being that the Equatorial rings act almost like
an orbital longitude meridian expressing that orbital turning to the
central Sun -

http://astro.berkeley.edu/~imke/Infr..._2001_2005.jpg

Assigning intrinsic lunar rotation only testifies to the obstacles
place before comprehension of the Earth's orbital characteristic drawn
down from direct observations of Uranus or imitation analogies,either
way,it is already an injustice that it has been left to drift even as
this original work by me is now thrown back at me as an assertion
which represents a worse fate than being rejected.

I specifically set aside this week so that the nuisances would post
something of astronomical relevance so that they could show how well
their view stand up rather than being unproductive complainers,as you
set out your stall and do so with conviction I have commended you for
that but those who pressure you have the power only to annoy sheep and
are best left to their own devices.This is serious business Sam and
there is not a single place other than the few unmoderated forums to
bring out these topics,where they originated,what others thought about
the technical details and how to resolve them.There is no appeal for
favor or reward,just the rising of an astronomical standard that is
long overdue.

A single rotation takes

* *27.321582 days compared to 23 hr 56 min 4.1 sec for the earth.

There is a huge logjam with respect to dynamics and timekeeping that
when streamlined will bring clarity to dynamics which are now buried
under a blizzard of time acronyms and wishful thinking,from time to
time I have come across the quandary others faced without resolving
the issue whereas we can now and that is probably the most infuriating
part,we can do it,nobody else could but we actually can.

You are doing your job with your convictions but can so easily adjust
while sacrificing nothing and gaining so powerful insights provided by
contemporary imaging and that is positive astronomy Sam,that is what
makes the celestial arena such a thrilling spectacle.

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