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  #11  
Old May 1st 12, 12:46 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
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just give up on angular momentum,
like so many other Neinsteinmaniacs have.

the rest of us will just be envious,
hate-to-love-him admirers of the vast corpus,
as writ in _Einstein's Mistakes_.
  #12  
Old May 1st 12, 03:23 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
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"1treePetrifiedForestLane"
first produced "jerkwater", due to his fixation with
angular momentum, which made him get a stiffy in
a jiffy, but if was iffy because

|||Brian||| Quincy Hutchings" QncyMI at netscape.net
is Al Gore's recycled Dingleberry of AGW Relativity.
Brian was originally Lyndon LaRouche's roach that
morphed into Mr. Potato head "Spudnick", then
rasterspace" & "tensegriboy" & is now a brain-fossil on
"1treePetrifiedForestLane"
& is no longer able to realize what's going on and so:

||| Brian asks: " do I have to kiss the Dingleberries?"
||| Brian says: Too bad, I can't just go "backwards"
||| Brian says: in time, and kill the mofo Einstein in the
||| Brian says: patent office.
||||Brian says: E=mcc is "just" an elaboration of KE=mvv
||||Brian says: I want to believe in wormholes
||||Brian says: that are absolute F and FS.

and so Brian wrote:
what a strange universe you are in, to have no
angular mometum at organismal (astronautic),
molecular & sub-atomic scales;
E = mcc is just an extension of KE = mvv,
Liebniz's *vis viva*, readily integrated ...
from momentum?

hanson wrote:
If you can't produce the address of Einstein's
younger twin, then why are you lamenting as
if you knew what's going on, only to put a
question mark at the end of your silly tripe.

Stay stuck in YOUR strange universe of " organismal
(astronautic), molecular & sub-atomic scales", that
is filled with your quaternions, which make you behave
like a dog that barks in the night at a distant noise he
knows nothing about.

Thanks for the laughs, though, you silly kvetch-kopp,
and keep on acting in your one-man street corner
performance on the side walk "1treePetrifiedForestLane"
in Santa Monica in front of Henry Waxman's office.
Meanwhile here is what we were talking about:

"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
...

Sam wrote:
Koobee Wublee wrote some nonsense
which I, Wormley, choose no to replicate.

because in here, Sam says, it shows that
http://www.phys.vt.edu/~takeuchi/relativity/notes/twin.gif
Changing direction involves *acceleration* which puts
the astronaut in a *non-inertial frame*.

hanson wrote:
Sam, all this Einstein crap, for which you proselytize
here again, would be tolerable if you where to
preface it by saying that it simply reflect your beliefs
and your mental masturbations in your daily session
during which you worship Albert's sphincter.

But if you don't acknowledge that, Sam, and you
insist that there is REALITY to/in what you say, then
post the address of that younger Einstein twin, so
that he can be looked at and checked out.

The bad, REAL, news for you, Sam, and for All you
Einstein Dingleberries, is that whenever the Astronauts
return from the International Space Station, after having
been there for a mere 6 months or so, where they were
exposed to velocities & accelerations that are not even
near anything that can be called relativistic, they all look
greatly aged, ****ed up and need medical attention upon
return... and they are NOT at all in accord with your vision
what your SR/GR predicts. --- Are you senile, Sam?

Sam, even Einstein recanted and said that his SR/GR
'was crock o'****. Do I have to repost Einstein's words
for you again?
Thanks for tthe laughs though, you splendid old Dreidel...
ahahaha... ahahahahanson


  #13  
Old May 1st 12, 06:51 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
1treePetrifiedForestLane
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atoms have angular momentum,
as do astronauts.

thus:
special relativity, implicitly if not explicity,
relies upon the relativistic effect of trying
to impose the "velocity" of light upon quanta
which are themselves relativisic internally,
viz angular momentum,
as developed by Dirac.

not that I comprehend his math;
it isn't really necessary to do that, since
the "twin paradox" and so on are merely quadratic exercises.

True that both are magic.


thus:
there's an old paper in *Nature*,
"Rapid collapse of the Eemian interglacial, *sensu strictu*,"
G. Woillard's study of a peatbog in France;
that was the interglacial before "this one,"
the Holocene, if it isn't already over.

of course, a lot of folks just use the term,
Pleistocene, and forget about it.

thus:
you don't get it (and neither do most Einsteinmaniacs)
that there is no absolute vacuum or "void,"
through which light is unable to refract, although
even such a putative void would conform to Snell's law,
its index of refraction being 1.0000.... like, wow,
that space is really flat; and, guess, What?
air's is, like, 1.00000004, because of the "curvature
of spacetime," y'think?

Blaise Pascal thought, y'know, and
he verified this by experiment.

there is tons of mainstream crappola about "zero point energy"
and the vacuum, because of this silly pretense
about an absolute void, which has no substance to it;
no-one has ever found or created one, and
it is strictly impossible.
  #14  
Old May 1st 12, 08:03 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
hanson
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Brian is drunk and loaded again, and sees things
that were nowhere in the post he responded to, like:
"True that both are magic." & "zero point energy"


Brian's behavior is not surprising though considering that:
Brian Quincy Hutchings" QncyMI at netscape.net
is Al Gore's recycled Dingleberry of AGW Relativity.
Brian was originally Lyndon LaRouche's roach that
morphed into Mr. Potato head "Spudnick", then
rasterspace" & "tensegriboy" & is now a brain-fossil on
"1treePetrifiedForestLane"
& is no longer able to realize what's going on and so:

||| Brian asks: " do I have to kiss the Dingleberries?"
||| Brian says: Too bad, I can't just go "backwards"
||| Brian says: in time, and kill the mofo Einstein in the
||| Brian says: patent office.
||||Brian says: E=mcc is "just" an elaboration of KE=mvv
||||Brian says: I want to believe in wormholes
||||Brian says: that are absolute F and FS.

and so Brian wrote:
what a strange universe you are in, to have no
angular mometum at organismal (astronautic),
molecular & sub-atomic scales;
E = mcc is just an extension of KE = mvv,
Liebniz's *vis viva*, readily integrated ...
from momentum?

hanson wrote:
If you can't produce the address of Einstein's
younger twin, then why are you lamenting as
if you knew what's going on, only to put a
question mark at the end of your silly tripe.

Stay stuck in YOUR strange universe of " organismal
(astronautic), molecular & sub-atomic scales", that
is filled with your quaternions, which make you behave
like a dog that barks in the night at a distant noise he
knows nothing about.

Thanks for the laughs, though, you silly kvetch-kopp,
and keep on acting in your one-man street corner
performance on the side walk "1treePetrifiedForestLane"
in Santa Monica in front of Henry Waxman's office.
Meanwhile here is what we were talking about:

"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
...

Sam wrote:
Koobee Wublee wrote some nonsense
which I, Wormley, choose no to replicate.

because in here, Sam says, it shows that
http://www.phys.vt.edu/~takeuchi/relativity/notes/twin.gif
Changing direction involves *acceleration* which puts
the astronaut in a *non-inertial frame*.

hanson wrote:
Sam, all this Einstein crap, for which you proselytize
here again, would be tolerable if you where to
preface it by saying that it simply reflect your beliefs
and your mental masturbations in your daily session
during which you worship Albert's sphincter.

But if you don't acknowledge that, Sam, and you
insist that there is REALITY to/in what you say, then
post the address of that younger Einstein twin, so
that he can be looked at and checked out.

The bad, REAL, news for you, Sam, and for All you
Einstein Dingleberries, is that whenever the Astronauts
return from the International Space Station, after having
been there for a mere 6 months or so, where they were
exposed to velocities & accelerations that are not even
near anything that can be called relativistic, they all look
greatly aged, ****ed up and need medical attention upon
return... and they are NOT at all in accord with your vision
what your SR/GR predicts. --- Are you senile, Sam?

Sam, even Einstein recanted and said that his SR/GR
'was crock o'****. Do I have to repost Einstein's words
for you again?
Thanks for the laughs though, you splendid old Dreidel...
ahahaha... ahahahahanson


  #15  
Old May 1st 12, 04:14 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
1treePetrifiedForestLane
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true, and non sequiter, as you know, and
would say, if you were not so hyped
on bashing herr doktor-professor Albert;
anyone could have done what he did, but
he did it, anyway.

see _Einstein's Mistakes_ and cry about it.

Space Station, after having
been there for a mere 6 months or so, where they were
exposed to velocities & accelerations that are not even
near anything that can be *called relativistic, they all look
greatly aged, ****ed up and need medical attention upon
return... and they are NOT at all in accord with your vision
what your SR/GR predicts.

  #16  
Old May 1st 12, 04:47 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
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most emphatically you do not have to do that,
unless you care to add some context. anyway,
I wasn't drunk, you were an a-hole.

I didn't even notice your bogus argument
about the God-am astronauts, before,
because of your ridiculously automated posting "style."

Do I have to repost Einstein's words for you again?


yeah, Einstien -- four Bronx cheers!
  #17  
Old May 1st 12, 11:05 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
hanson
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ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahaha... ROTFLMAO:

"1treePetrifiedForestLane"
aka "Brian" is drunk and loaded again, so bad, that he
is in denial & indicts himself with: "I wasn't drunk, you
were an a-hole. yeah, Einstien -- four Bronx cheers!"

Brian's behavior is not surprising considering that:
Brian Quincy Hutchings" QncyMI at netscape.net
is Al Gore's recycled Dingleberry of AGW Relativity.
Brian was originally Lyndon LaRouche's roach that
morphed into Mr. Potato head "Spudnick", then
rasterspace" & "tensegriboy" & is now a brain-fossil on
"1treePetrifiedForestLane"
& is no longer able to realize what's going on and so:

||| Brian asks: " do I have to kiss the Dingleberries?"
||| Brian says: Too bad, I can't just go "backwards"
||| Brian says: in time, and kill the mofo Einstein in the
||| Brian says: patent office.
||||Brian says: E=mcc is "just" an elaboration of KE=mvv
||||Brian says: I want to believe in wormholes
||||Brian says: that are absolute F and FS.

hanson wrote:
Brian, keep up with your performance in your
one-man street corner act, on the side walk
of the very busy "1treePetrifiedForestLane",
in Santa Monica, in front of Henry Waxman's
office, where you do preach, for a living, your
splendid tripe above. You are a glaring case
of a _cyst_ who pretends to be a _physicist_.
Thanks for the laughs, Brian, you silly kvetch-kopp.

Meanwhile here is what we were talking about:

"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
...

Sam wrote:
Koobee Wublee wrote some nonsense
which I, Wormley, choose no to replicate.

because in here, Sam says, it shows that
http://www.phys.vt.edu/~takeuchi/relativity/notes/twin.gif
Changing direction involves *acceleration* which puts
the astronaut in a *non-inertial frame*.

hanson wrote:
Sam, all this Einstein crap, for which you proselytize
here again, would be tolerable if you where to
preface it by saying that it simply reflect your beliefs
and your mental masturbations in your daily session
during which you worship Albert's sphincter.

But if you don't acknowledge that, Sam, and you
insist that there is REALITY to/in what you say, then
post the address of that younger Einstein twin, so
that he can be looked at and checked out.

The bad, REAL, news for you, Sam, and for All you
Einstein Dingleberries, is that whenever the Astronauts
return from the International Space Station, after having
been there for a mere 6 months or so, where they were
exposed to velocities & accelerations that are not even
near anything that can be called relativistic, they all look
greatly aged, ****ed up and need medical attention upon
return... and they are NOT at all in accord with your vision
what your SR/GR predicts. --- Are you senile, Sam?

Sam, even Einstein recanted and said that his SR/GR
'was crock o'****. Do I have to repost Einstein's words
for you again?
Thanks for the laughs though, you splendid old Dreidel...
ahahaha... ahahahahanson


  #18  
Old May 4th 12, 04:14 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
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amen, and pass the God-am amunition.

||||Brian says: * E=mcc is "just" an elaboration of KE=mvv


thus:
Vast amounts of natural CO2 continuously cycle through the atmosphere,
plants, soils, and oceans, and these natural fluxes have remained in
balance. Human-generated CO2 emissions are small compared to natural
fluxes but they are significant
  #19  
Old May 4th 12, 04:39 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
hanson
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ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahaha... ROTFLMAO:

"1treePetrifiedForestLane"
aka "Brian" is drunk and loaded again, so bad, that he
is in denial & indicts himself with: "I wasn't drunk, you
were an a-hole. yeah, Einstien -- four Bronx cheers!"
while he equates "E=mcc is just an elaboration of
KE=mvv"... with "thus, wast amounts of natural CO2 "

Brian's behavior is not surprising considering that:
Brian Quincy Hutchings" QncyMI at netscape.net
is Al Gore's recycled Dingleberry of AGW Relativity.
Brian was originally Lyndon LaRouche's roach that
morphed into Mr. Potato head "Spudnick", then
rasterspace" & "tensegriboy" & is now a brain-fossil on
"1treePetrifiedForestLane"
& is no longer able to realize what's going on and so:

||| Brian asks: " do I have to kiss the Dingleberries?"
||| Brian says: Too bad, I can't just go "backwards"
||| Brian says: in time, and kill the mofo Einstein in the
||| Brian says: patent office.
||||Brian says: E=mcc is "just" an elaboration of KE=mvv
||||Brian says: I want to believe in wormholes
||||Brian says: that are absolute F and FS.

hanson wrote:
Brian, keep up with your performance in your
one-man street corner act, on the side walk
of the very busy "1treePetrifiedForestLane",
in Santa Monica, in front of Henry Waxman's
office, where you do preach, for a living, your
splendid tripe above. You are a glaring case
of a _cyst_ who pretends to be a _physicist_.
Thanks for the laughs, Brian, you silly kvetch-kopp.

Meanwhile here is what we were talking about:

"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
...

Sam wrote:
Koobee Wublee wrote some nonsense
which I, Wormley, choose no to replicate.

because in here, Sam says, it shows that
http://www.phys.vt.edu/~takeuchi/relativity/notes/twin.gif
Changing direction involves *acceleration* which puts
the astronaut in a *non-inertial frame*.

hanson wrote:
Sam, all this Einstein crap, for which you proselytize
here again, would be tolerable if you where to
preface it by saying that it simply reflect your beliefs
and your mental masturbations in your daily session
during which you worship Albert's sphincter.

But if you don't acknowledge that, Sam, and you
insist that there is REALITY to/in what you say, then
post the address of that younger Einstein twin, so
that he can be looked at and checked out.

The bad, REAL, news for you, Sam, and for All you
Einstein Dingleberries, is that whenever the Astronauts
return from the International Space Station, after having
been there for a mere 6 months or so, where they were
exposed to velocities & accelerations that are not even
near anything that can be called relativistic, they all look
greatly aged, ****ed up and need medical attention upon
return... and they are NOT at all in accord with your vision
what your SR/GR predicts. --- Are you senile, Sam?

Sam, even Einstein recanted and said that his SR/GR
'was crock o'****. Do I have to repost Einstein's words
for you again?
Thanks for the laughs though, you splendid old Dreidel...
ahahaha... ahahahahanson


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Old May 4th 12, 08:27 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
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thanks for the hyuks, foo.
 




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