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bombardmentforce wrote:
An investment of money in Real Estate, as you hint your current options are undiversified at the planetary level. This leads to excessive accumulating portfolio risk if you consider the long term future of you investments in churches, foundations and families. The local ore is also getting played out. Much metal can be recycled. Bob Kolker |
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Henry Spencer wrote:
Orion's fallout output..."urk!" "The lifetime risk of a death due to cancer is about 20% absent the fallout radiation exposure. The (438 megatons of airborne) fallout putatively raises that risk to about 20.03%..." http://newton.nap.edu/books/030909156X/html/373.html ----- "100 megatons' worth of nuclear weapons in the atmosphere each year. A full-fledged Orion mission would have increased the amount of fallout from those tests by 1 percent." http://www.discover.com/issues/feb-0...t-rocket-ever/ Q.E.D. 20.0300685 --- Do you worry enough about the 20%? Will you let the 0.0000685% cripple our destiny? Have you heard of the quadratic does response model?... hormesis? |
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Robert Kolker wrote:
bombardmentforce wrote: An investment of money in Real Estate, as you hint your current options are undiversified at the planetary level. This leads to excessive accumulating portfolio risk if you consider the long term future of you investments in churches, foundations and families. Don't forget the portfolio. The local ore is also getting played out. Much metal can be recycled. Bob Kolker The doesn't do much for a growing population, and is no way for us to get rich.. |
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bombardmentforce wrote:
Henry Spencer wrote: Orion's fallout output..."urk!" "The lifetime risk of a death due to cancer is about 20% absent the fallout radiation exposure. The (438 megatons of airborne) fallout putatively raises that risk to about 20.03%..." http://newton.nap.edu/books/030909156X/html/373.html ----- "100 megatons' worth of nuclear weapons in the atmosphere each year. A full-fledged Orion mission would have increased the amount of fallout from those tests by 1 percent." http://www.discover.com/issues/feb-0...t-rocket-ever/ Q.E.D. 20.0300685 --- Do you worry enough about the 20%? Will you let the 0.0000685% cripple our destiny? Have you heard of the quadratic does response model?... hormesis? 20% of all deaths are due to cancer? -- Jews who do not condemn Israel are judged by Israel. -- The Iron Webmaster, 3691 nizkor http://www.giwersworld.org/nizkook/nizkook.phtml Zionism http://www.giwersworld.org/disinfo/disinfo.phtml a4 |
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bombardmentforce wrote: Jack Linthicum wrote: Robert Kolker wrote: bernardz wrote: An Orion rocket would work but you would not want to launch it from Earths surface. Somewhere over N. Korea would be nice. Bob Kolker In all seriousness the original idea was to launch it, or at least test fire it, near the General Atomics HQ in La Jolla. Yes, using a "small" nuclear device. Here's map of the Nerva test site, visted by Dyson as they evaluated test options. http://spacebombardment.blogspot.com...mage-zone.html Chapter 20 Jackass Flats "We assumed it would be somewhere near La Jolla in the Pacific", Freeman answers, when asked about the location of the launch. A barge is mentioned. |
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bombardmentforce wrote:
The doesn't do much for a growing population, and is no way for us to get rich.. True. Recycling buys some time but the moment of truth comes. Either the population stops growing or we mine metal from the oceans. We do not have to go to the asteroid belt. There is also substitution of non-metalic substances for metal. Right now we are getting very strong material using carbon fibres. Lots of carbon, yes? I think the soundest approach is population limitation. That way, if our space efforts fail to produce what is needed, we can still survive a long time on this planet. Bob Kolker |
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In message , Matt Giwer
writes bombardmentforce wrote: Henry Spencer wrote: Orion's fallout output..."urk!" "The lifetime risk of a death due to cancer is about 20% absent the fallout radiation exposure. The (438 megatons of airborne) fallout putatively raises that risk to about 20.03%..." http://newton.nap.edu/books/030909156X/html/373.html ----- "100 megatons' worth of nuclear weapons in the atmosphere each year. A full-fledged Orion mission would have increased the amount of fallout from those tests by 1 percent." http://www.discover.com/issues/feb-0...t-rocket-ever/ Q.E.D. 20.0300685 --- Do you worry enough about the 20%? Will you let the 0.0000685% cripple our destiny? Have you heard of the quadratic does response model?... hormesis? 20% of all deaths are due to cancer? It's more than that - nearly 30% in industrialised countries UK http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1192952.stm USA http://www.cancure.org/statistics.htm Canada http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/051221/d051221b.htm But if the choice is between causing air pollution and _being_ air pollution I'd go for the nuclear pulse rocket! |
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Robert Kolker wrote: I think the soundest approach is population limitation. That way, if our space efforts fail to produce what is needed, we can still survive a long time on this planet. Until ~the~ asteroid hits....... |
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"bombardmentforce" wrote in message ps.com... David Spain wrote: Project Orion was a concept study. And a test program. that lead into the Casaba Howitzer test program, that was the secret core of Reagan's SDI. http://spacebombardment.blogspot.com...r-concept.html It proposed building a space-based only "rocket" ...It was really only seriously proposed for use strictly in space. The bombs were to be released in a series of continuous distinct pulses. Here's evidence it was seriously proposed for Earth launch, by a serious player, who later was part of the team behind the World Trade Center. http://spacebombardment.blogspot.com...-re-lunar.html As a retired engineer, I don't see how nuclear explosions could be used for launches. The blast would tend to distroy the vehicle and anyone inside of the vehicle. On orbit, a nuclear explosion may not even provide a impulse via blast. Without an atmosphere, I don't think there would be an impulse of force. Huge amount of heat in the form of radiation, but no blast overpressure. But a nuclear reactor with hydrogen of even water being boiled and heated then expelled out a nozzle would make a good rocket engine. Danny Dot www.mobbinggonemad.org |
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 14:15:13 -0500, Danny Dot wrote
(in article ): "bombardmentforce" wrote in message ps.com... (snipped) "Bombardmentforce" is a clueless, nuke-obsessed loon. Killfile him and make your life better. (F/ups set appropriately) -- Herb Schaltegger "You can run on for a long time . . . sooner or later, God'll cut you down." - Johnny Cash http://www.angryherb.net |
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