Ballistic Theory, Progress report...Suitable for 5yo Kids

"Paul B. Andersen" wrote in message
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Mission accomplished

Androcles.

"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message
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| I suggested that each photon has a 'cross section' that is considerably
greater
| than the slit spacing.

The **** you did, plagiarist.
It's funny how your "suggestions" appear after I've explained what a photon
is.
Androcles.

"Paul B. Andersen" wrote in message
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| Hexenmeister wrote:
| "Paul B. Andersen" wrote in message
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| Mission accomplished.
| Androcles
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If you've anything to say, ****, put back what I said and respond to that
first.
Mission accomplished.


Androcles.

On Wed, 10 May 2006 05:26:05 GMT, "Hexenmeister"
wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message
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| I suggested that each photon has a 'cross section' that is considerably
greater
| than the slit spacing.

The **** you did, plagiarist.
It's funny how your "suggestions" appear after I've explained what a photon
is.

You think it is a squiggly line in space, shaped like a sine wave.

I have produced an animation of part of a photon. Where is yours?
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/e-field.exe

Androcles.




HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

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"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message
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| On Wed, 10 May 2006 05:26:05 GMT, "Hexenmeister"
| wrote:
|
|
| "Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message
| .. .
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| |
| | I suggested that each photon has a 'cross section' that is considerably
| greater
| | than the slit spacing.
|
| The **** you did, plagiarist.
| It's funny how your "suggestions" appear after I've explained what a
photon
| is.
|
| You think


Indeed I do.
You should try it sometime instead of dreaming up Wombat's Wedge-shaped
Wedge-on Worbits Pty.


| it is a squiggly line in space, shaped like a sine wave.

Not at all. That is a mathematical model. When you can tell me the
wavelength
of my car and the frequency of a road we'll talk about it.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...escatalina.gif


| I have produced an animation of part of a photon. Where is yours?
| www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/e-field.exe

Your photon is like this animal's tail:
http://www.alligatorfarm.us/main.html
and you are ****ing "useless-friendly".
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...lsonPhoton.PNG

Why not make a gif? There a plenty of gif animators around, nobody
wants to download a ****ing executable just for a picture of your wild
imagination.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...Animator&meta=

Mine is he
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AC/AC.gif

I've included the magnetic field.
Androcles.

Hexenmeister wrote:
"Paul B. Andersen" wrote in message
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Mission accomplished

Androcles.


Indeed.

The electrical engineer with a degree in mathematics
lectures on "a plane electromagnetic wave":
| The B-field is not in the same "plane" as the E-field.
| Both occupy a volume, but alternately.
| It can be sectioned with a plane, like this:
| http://www.indigo.com/magnets/gphmgn...sk-viewer.html
| Hence I do not understand what you mean by "a plane, electromagnetic wave",
| no such animal exists.
| I'm not even sure what YOU mean by a wave of any description.
| You are probably frame hopping.
|
| This moving road can be considered a "plane wave". We know roads move, we
| can feel the wind in our hair and see that it does.
| http://tinyurl.com/ghtm8
| The road has no frequency, only the car has frequency.
| Frame hopping from the car to the road is a popular pastime of ****heads.

The electrical engineer with a degree in mathematics
lectures on "how to solve the equation: curl H = @D/@t":
| No 'c', huh? Ok, I'll go along with that, Faraday and Gauss knew what they were doing.
| The solution to that differential equation is a function, of course.
| d(cos(t))/dt = -sin(t)
|
| I didn't need reminding. Perhaps you do.
| http://www.maths.abdn.ac.uk/~igc/tch...ff/node27.html
|
| Does your hair have curls, Tusselad? Or are you bald?

Curl?
http://www.tech.plym.ac.uk/maths/res...X/div_curl.pdf


Mission accomplished!

Paul, still laughing

Hexenmeister wrote:
"Paul B. Andersen" wrote in message
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| Hexenmeister wrote:
| "Paul B. Andersen" wrote in message
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| Mission accomplished.
| Androcles
|

If you've anything to say, ****, put back what I said and respond to that
first.
Mission accomplished.


Androcles.

OK.
You said:
Mission accomplished.
I said:

Indeed.

The electrical engineer with a degree in mathematics
lectures on "a plane electromagnetic wave":
| The B-field is not in the same "plane" as the E-field.
| Both occupy a volume, but alternately.
| It can be sectioned with a plane, like this:
| http://www.indigo.com/magnets/gphmgn...sk-viewer.html
| Hence I do not understand what you mean by "a plane, electromagnetic wave",
| no such animal exists.
| I'm not even sure what YOU mean by a wave of any description.
| You are probably frame hopping.
|
| This moving road can be considered a "plane wave". We know roads move, we
| can feel the wind in our hair and see that it does.
| http://tinyurl.com/ghtm8
| The road has no frequency, only the car has frequency.
| Frame hopping from the car to the road is a popular pastime of ****heads.

The electrical engineer with a degree in mathematics
lectures on "how to solve the equation: curl H = @D/@t":
| No 'c', huh? Ok, I'll go along with that, Faraday and Gauss knew what they were doing.
| The solution to that differential equation is a function, of course.
| d(cos(t))/dt = -sin(t)
|
| I didn't need reminding. Perhaps you do.
| http://www.maths.abdn.ac.uk/~igc/tch...ff/node27.html
|
| Does your hair have curls, Tusselad? Or are you bald?

Curl?
http://www.tech.plym.ac.uk/maths/res...X/div_curl.pdf


Mission accomplished!

Paul, still laughing

Henri Wilson wrote:
On Tue, 09 May 2006 22:33:27 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"
wrote:


Henri Wilson wrote:

On Mon, 08 May 2006 23:05:01 +0200, "Paul B. Andersen"


First let's get the picture straight Paul.

Each individual photon will go to a different point X. ...Why?
An interference pattern will be formed across the screen.

Right.


As you know, the maths describing such a pattern involves probability and tems
like Bessel functions etc.

Right. It is an interference pattern.


Although I cannot say I have really thought much about the problem, I would
consider that the photon's diffracted angle is linked to its 'energy offset' as
it arrives at the slits. It could also have something to do with the phasing of
the intrinsic standing wave as the photons hits.

...but you will say I am merely speculating...

The point is not that you are speculating,
the point is that you are contradicting yourself.

You are claiming that light behaves as a particle and NOT like
a wave in vacuum.
But the double slit experiment demonstrates that it behaves as a wave
(the interference pattern) AND as a particle (it is absorbed by one pixel only.)

IF it is a "particle" with "cross section and length extending to infinity",
then that "particle" must be so big that half of it goes through each
slit. If it is this big, why is it then only absorbed by one pixel?
And if the wave pattern is within this "particle", why is then the
result not the same every time?

It simply doesn't add up, Henri.
You are inventing nonsense.


You don't listen do you Paul. My photons have 'intrinsic waves'....and these
will obey normal diffraction rules...more or less.

I suggested that each photon has a 'cross section' that is considerably greater
than the slit spacing. If the photon hits the slits symmetrically, its image
will appear directly behind the slits.
If it hits slightly off centre, it will be deflected at an angle determined by
its own intrinsic wavelength.
This concept is perfectly in order.

No, it isn't.
If we have a grating, the diffraction pattern is very
different from a double slit.
So how big is your "particle" spanning over the whole grid?
And how can this huge "particle" hit at one pixel only?

It makes no sense, Henri.

Whatever light is, the wavelength measured in a spectrometer
is the wavelength of a wave which behaves as a wave.


You must draw a distinction between a single photon and a large group.

I said that single photons possess intrinsic waves. Groups can possess an
additional 'phase related' wave.

And what the hell is this supposed to mean?
That light behaves as a wave just like I said?

I have shown how this wave MUST behave according to
the ballistic theory. The predicted Doppler shift is not
observed. Ballistic theory falsified.


You are refusing to discuss anything outside your religion.

What a stupid statement. :-)
We are discussing the ballistic theory,
which is YOUR religion. Definitely not mine!

I said:
I have shown how this wave MUST behave according to
the ballistic theory. The predicted Doppler shift is not
observed. Ballistic theory falsified.

See?
It's all about the ballistic theory which you
claim I refuse to discuss.

But have we ever discussed anything else, Henri?

Paul

"Paul B. Andersen" wrote in message
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Mission accomplished.

Androcles.

"Paul B. Andersen" wrote in message
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| Hexenmeister wrote:
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| Mission accomplished
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| Androcles.

Mission accomplished.
Androcles