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David Spain wrote:
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/06...constellation/ A super expensive launch pad, for an idiotic rocket that will never fly. Bravo. Heckava job, murka, just a heckava job. |
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"David Spain" wrote in message ... http://www.universetoday.com/2009/06...constellation/ Let the scorched earth policy begin, even though the Human Space Flight Review Committee has yet to begin to work. Jeff -- "Take heart amid the deepening gloom that your dog is finally getting enough cheese" - Deteriorata - National Lampoon |
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:21:29 -0400, "Jeff Findley"
wrote: Let the scorched earth policy begin, even though the Human Space Flight Review Committee has yet to begin to work. We only need one pad to keep Shuttle flying, if so desired. If we change course and go with DIRECT, we'll need to modify Pad B anyway. If we change course and go with Delta or Atlas, Pad B is irrelevant. Brian |
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"Brian Thorn" wrote in message ... On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:21:29 -0400, "Jeff Findley" wrote: Let the scorched earth policy begin, even though the Human Space Flight Review Committee has yet to begin to work. We only need one pad to keep Shuttle flying, if so desired. If we change course and go with DIRECT, we'll need to modify Pad B anyway. If we change course and go with Delta or Atlas, Pad B is irrelevant. If part of the output of the committee is a recommendation to keep flying shuttle for several more years (unlikely, but possible), then having only one shuttle pad is a nuisance. It might be fine, unless something goes wrong with the pad (more fire brick liberation, and etc.) and as long as any new shuttle missions always fly to ISS. Jeff -- "Take heart amid the deepening gloom that your dog is finally getting enough cheese" - Deteriorata - National Lampoon |
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:11:08 -0400, "Jeff Findley"
wrote: We only need one pad to keep Shuttle flying, if so desired. If we change course and go with DIRECT, we'll need to modify Pad B anyway. If we change course and go with Delta or Atlas, Pad B is irrelevant. If part of the output of the committee is a recommendation to keep flying shuttle for several more years (unlikely, but possible), then having only one shuttle pad is a nuisance. No it isn't. NASA flew 9 missions off one pad in one year (1985). Even if the Shuttle is extended, we'll like see a flight rate only 1/3 of that. It might be fine, unless something goes wrong with the pad (more fire brick liberation, and etc.) Something (brick liberation) already went wrong with the only pad we're actually flying from. It didn't cause any delays. At current and proposed (extended) flight rates, it would take something really big to cause a scheduling mess, something so big would probably end the program anyway. and as long as any new shuttle missions always fly to ISS. Not really. NASA seriously considered the single-pad option for 125/400 after the delay from October to May. The main reason they stuck with dual-pad was because Ares 1X was way behind schedule anyway. It complicates things, but it is doable. Brian |
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NO work should be done till the direction of future operations is
made. hey lets remodel our kitchen, during remodel you decide to level the home and replace. hey is taxpayers money why not waste it? |
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"Brian Thorn" wrote in message ... On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:11:08 -0400, "Jeff Findley" wrote: We only need one pad to keep Shuttle flying, if so desired. If we change course and go with DIRECT, we'll need to modify Pad B anyway. If we change course and go with Delta or Atlas, Pad B is irrelevant. If part of the output of the committee is a recommendation to keep flying shuttle for several more years (unlikely, but possible), then having only one shuttle pad is a nuisance. No it isn't. NASA flew 9 missions off one pad in one year (1985). Even if the Shuttle is extended, we'll like see a flight rate only 1/3 of that. It might be fine, unless something goes wrong with the pad (more fire brick liberation, and etc.) Something (brick liberation) already went wrong with the only pad we're actually flying from. It didn't cause any delays. At current and proposed (extended) flight rates, it would take something really big to cause a scheduling mess, something so big would probably end the program anyway. and as long as any new shuttle missions always fly to ISS. Not really. NASA seriously considered the single-pad option for 125/400 after the delay from October to May. The main reason they stuck with dual-pad was because Ares 1X was way behind schedule anyway. It complicates things, but it is doable. I did say having only one pad is a "nuisance". It's possible to live with one, but then you don't have a backup. I'll agree that it's very unlikely that you'd *need* the second launch pad, but then you don't plan on using backup hardware unless something goes terribly wrong with the primary hardware, do you? Jeff -- "Take heart amid the deepening gloom that your dog is finally getting enough cheese" - Deteriorata - National Lampoon |
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In sci.space.policy message ,
Mon, 8 Jun 2009 10:24:06, Jeff Findley posted: I did say having only one pad is a "nuisance". It's possible to live with one, but then you don't have a backup. I'll agree that it's very unlikely that you'd *need* the second launch pad, but then you don't plan on using backup hardware unless something goes terribly wrong with the primary hardware, do you? In the last half-century or so, has a major hurricane, tornado, etc. ever scored a direct hit on KSC? What are the odds, allowing for climate trends, for the next half-century? AIUI, there's NO back-up VAB. -- (c) John Stockton, nr London, UK. Turnpike v6.05 MIME. Web URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/ - FAQqish topics, acronyms & links; Astro stuff via astron-1.htm, gravity0.htm ; quotings.htm, pascal.htm, etc. No Encoding. Quotes before replies. Snip well. Write clearly. Don't Mail News. |
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"Dr J R Stockton" wrote in message
nvalid... In sci.space.policy message , Mon, 8 Jun 2009 10:24:06, Jeff Findley posted: I did say having only one pad is a "nuisance". It's possible to live with one, but then you don't have a backup. I'll agree that it's very unlikely that you'd *need* the second launch pad, but then you don't plan on using backup hardware unless something goes terribly wrong with the primary hardware, do you? In the last half-century or so, has a major hurricane, tornado, etc. ever scored a direct hit on KSC? What are the odds, allowing for climate trends, for the next half-century? AIUI, there's NO back-up VAB. I believe the one that hit a few years ago (4-5?) would qualify as a direct hit. The VAB definitely took some damage. -- Greg Moore Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC. |
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