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Bouncing off the atmosphere
Jens Schweikhardt wrote
in : # Snidely wrote # in : # ... # # Isn't part of the point that the atmosphere, tenous as it is at the # # reentry interface, is being compressed by the speed of the returning # # capsule, to the point where it offers signficant resistance and lift? # # But where does the lift come from? The Apollo CMs are blunt cones, a # shape very far from a lift providing shape like a wing. The pressure # builds up in front of the blunt end, which moves almost horizontally # and the decelaration force acts horizontally. For "bouncing off" a # strong vertically acting force would be required, no? # # I wonder if Gene Kranz was simplifying things when he said "If it comes # in too shallow its going to richochet off the Earth's atmosphere just # like a stone does off water." (Source: # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdz6Zi3sJd8 at 7:20) I believe he just # refers to the altitude-over-time plot, not the actual physical process # of momentum exchange (and thus upward force). Oh well, who am I to suspect Gene Kranz would simplify things. # For me it boils down to the question: why does the altitude raise again? # Possible answers: # a) Newton 1 = Law of Inertia, i.e. no deceleration below orbital speed # so the capsule keeps an elliptical orbit (though with reduced apogee) # b) Aerodynamic effects providing lift # c) Something else # d) A combination of the above # # My gut feeling as a physicist tells me a). But my knowledge of orbital # mechanics and aerodynamics is limited at best. The answer is in this awesome NASA educational video, titled "Apollo Atmospheric Entry Phase NASA": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpL7VaugDa8 which leaves no question unanswered. For the curious: my gut feeling was wrong (how clever of me to have appended some weasel words :-) If you ever wondered how they computed when it's time for TEI and all the bits of where they come down, this is a must see! Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) |
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