mass is light.

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:28:06 +0000 (UTC), in a place far, far away,
(Eric Chomko) made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

: Some time ago I re-aquired it, and listened to the text in a non
: sixties Vietnam war mood..... it gets tricky (I like the peace
: *feeling*) when he starts on the commie bit 'share all things' or
: something, that never worked.

: That's the whole point. It was about "feelings," not rationality or
: reality. Many millions have died on the alter of feelings.
:
: Sorry, that should have been "altar of feelings."

: grins Ah, but I get such a warm, fuzzy feeling when I wander back by
: and see that nothing has changed...except perhaps that Brad gets nuttier
: by the day.

: How are ya, Rand?

His nuttiness is more on a weekly basis.

(Sorry, I could not let a straight line like that pass)...

The usual response to a "straight line" is a joke. Hopefully one
that's funny. I'm not sure what this was supposed to be.

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:26:05 +0000 (UTC), in a place far, far away,
(Eric Chomko) made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:14:14 +0000 (UTC), in a place far, far away,
: (Eric Chomko) made the phosphor on my
: monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

: : Not that he deserved to be shot, but that was one of the most moronic
: : songs ever written by anyone, ever.
:
: Why do you say that? It was a poem put to music.

: It's a brainless and transnationalistic collectivist poem set to
: music, that many think is somehow deep thought and a useful guiding
: philosophy to governance.

Okay. How many copies did it sell? Gold? Platinum?

What difference does it make? No one disputed that it was popular.
Once again, a non sequitur.

: Dylan has done it many times.

: laughing

: Do you mean Bob Dylan? Can you cite a singe one?

Brownsville Girl. Hell that song runs on almost like a short story...

: I can't "imagine" that Bob Dylan would ever cover as stupid a song as
: "Imagine." I can imagine that you'd be ignorant enough to "imagine"
: that he did, though.

I never said Dylan covered "Imagine". I said that "Imagine" was a poem put
to music, as Dylan often does (i.e. poem put to music). Hell, "Blowin in
the Wind", is a poem. Want to talk about how much better it is than
"Imagine"?

Not really.

: Why do you hate, "Imagine"? The answer could explain a lot of the
: quirks in your personality...

: While I no doubt have quirks in my personality (as does everyone),

Yes, but yours are more obvious...

: I doubt if my disrespect for "Imagine" will provide much insight into
: them.

Disrespect?! You dissed the Lennon song? Now you're confusing disrespect
with your opinion. You have self-esteem issues don't you, Rand?

No.

On a sunny day (Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:26:05 +0000 (UTC)) it happened
(Eric Chomko) wrote in
:

Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:14:14 +0000 (UTC), in a place far, far away,
: (Eric Chomko) made the phosphor on my
: monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

: : Not that he deserved to be shot, but that was one of the most moronic
: : songs ever written by anyone, ever.
:
: Why do you say that? It was a poem put to music.

: It's a brainless and transnationalistic collectivist poem set to
: music, that many think is somehow deep thought and a useful guiding
: philosophy to governance.

Okay. How many copies did it sell? Gold? Platinum?

: Dylan has done it many times.

: laughing

: Do you mean Bob Dylan? Can you cite a singe one?

Brownsville Girl. Hell that song runs on almost like a short story...

Hey I had at one point (maybe still have) most of Dylan's records.
He actually also wrote 'like a rolling stone', something a specific
group took as name, Mr tambourine man, many more.
The times they are changing...

But some time ago I did see / hear recent stuff looked pretty much
braindead to me.

'New Morning' I liked best.

tomcat wrote:
So, we are dealing with pretty weird, strange, almost magical, stuff
called light. If photons really do have little, tiny mass even
relative to electrons and neutrinos then it 'might' be possible that
photons are the building blocks, not quarks. Or, to put it differently
it 'might' be that photons make up the quarks and, maybe, even the
'strings'. They are strange little things that seem to know when they
are being watched.

Well, I am not claiming to have all of this figured out. But having
this discussion has been enlightening to me and to others I think too.
Art Deco would probably enjoy it too except that his brain is locked in
a box somewhere and can't get out.


tomcat

Art Deco's brain is between his butt-cheeks as having been stuck deeply
within an overflowing space-toilet of incest and bigotry on a stick.
You're just badly snookered and summarily dumbfounded.

BTW; of the photons that we can see don't amount to 0.0000001% of the
photon spectrum. Of the photons we can detect don't amount to 0.1% of
the photon spectrum.
-
Brad Guth

Brad Guth wrote:
tomcat wrote:
So, we are dealing with pretty weird, strange, almost magical, stuff
called light. If photons really do have little, tiny mass even
relative to electrons and neutrinos then it 'might' be possible that
photons are the building blocks, not quarks. Or, to put it differently
it 'might' be that photons make up the quarks and, maybe, even the
'strings'. They are strange little things that seem to know when they
are being watched.

Well, I am not claiming to have all of this figured out. But having
this discussion has been enlightening to me and to others I think too.
Art Deco would probably enjoy it too except that his brain is locked in
a box somewhere and can't get out.


tomcat

Art Deco's brain is between his butt-cheeks as having been stuck deeply
within an overflowing space-toilet of incest and bigotry on a stick.
You're just badly snookered and summarily dumbfounded.

BTW; of the photons that we can see don't amount to 0.0000001% of the
photon spectrum. Of the photons we can detect don't amount to 0.1% of
the photon spectrum.
-
Brad Guth



Here, we are agreed on both points except for the possibility that Art
Deco 'has' a brain.

I am discovering more interesting things about those wily photons all
the time. Where does the Cherenkov Radiation come from?

It doesn't come from the FTL particle because that is not the way that
air turns into a burst of pressure when the sound barrier is broken.
So, it is 'probably' photons in the path of the particle that build up
because of the particle's speed, finally breaking loose because they
build up and can't hold on any longer.

Where do all of these 'unlit' photons come from. They must be there
from the beginning, just sitting there 'unlit' doing 'something', but
what?


tomcat

Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:26:05 +0000 (UTC), in a place far, far away,
: (Eric Chomko) made the phosphor on my
: monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

: Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: : On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:14:14 +0000 (UTC), in a place far, far away,
: : (Eric Chomko) made the phosphor on my
: : monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:
:
: : : Not that he deserved to be shot, but that was one of the most moronic
: : : songs ever written by anyone, ever.
: :
: : Why do you say that? It was a poem put to music.
:
: : It's a brainless and transnationalistic collectivist poem set to
: : music, that many think is somehow deep thought and a useful guiding
: : philosophy to governance.
:
: Okay. How many copies did it sell? Gold? Platinum?

: What difference does it make? No one disputed that it was popular.
: Once again, a non sequitur.

Wrong! It reminds me of what Don McLean said about his song, "American
Pie", meant to him. His response: "It means I never have to work again if
I don't want to."

: : Dylan has done it many times.
:
: : laughing
:
: : Do you mean Bob Dylan? Can you cite a singe one?
:
: Brownsville Girl. Hell that song runs on almost like a short story...
:
: : I can't "imagine" that Bob Dylan would ever cover as stupid a song as
: : "Imagine." I can imagine that you'd be ignorant enough to "imagine"
: : that he did, though.
:
: I never said Dylan covered "Imagine". I said that "Imagine" was a poem put
: to music, as Dylan often does (i.e. poem put to music). Hell, "Blowin in
: the Wind", is a poem. Want to talk about how much better it is than
: "Imagine"?

: Not really.

No doubt...

: : Why do you hate, "Imagine"? The answer could explain a lot of the
: : quirks in your personality...
:
: : While I no doubt have quirks in my personality (as does everyone),
:
: Yes, but yours are more obvious...
:
: : I doubt if my disrespect for "Imagine" will provide much insight into
: : them.
:
: Disrespect?! You dissed the Lennon song? Now you're confusing disrespect
: with your opinion. You have self-esteem issues don't you, Rand?

: No.

laughing

I beg to differ...

Jan Panteltje ) wrote:
: On a sunny day (Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:26:05 +0000 (UTC)) it happened
: (Eric Chomko) wrote in
: :

: Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: : On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:14:14 +0000 (UTC), in a place far, far away,
: : (Eric Chomko) made the phosphor on my
: : monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:
:
: : : Not that he deserved to be shot, but that was one of the most moronic
: : : songs ever written by anyone, ever.
: :
: : Why do you say that? It was a poem put to music.
:
: : It's a brainless and transnationalistic collectivist poem set to
: : music, that many think is somehow deep thought and a useful guiding
: : philosophy to governance.
:
: Okay. How many copies did it sell? Gold? Platinum?
:
: : Dylan has done it many times.
:
: : laughing
:
: : Do you mean Bob Dylan? Can you cite a singe one?
:
: Brownsville Girl. Hell that song runs on almost like a short story...

: Hey I had at one point (maybe still have) most of Dylan's records.
: He actually also wrote 'like a rolling stone', something a specific
: group took as name, Mr tambourine man, many more.
: The times they are changing...

Look, I love Dylan, I saw him 20 years ago with Tom Petty in DC. Dylan
gave our group (parking lot attendents @ RFK as we were harrased by his
roadies) a nice tribute after the song, "Knocking on Heaven's Door" (one
of my favorites. No, Dylan and I are just fine...

: But some time ago I did see / hear recent stuff looked pretty much
: braindead to me.

We all get older...

: 'New Morning' I liked best.

I liked the "Knocked Out Loaded" myself...

Eric

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:02:39 +0000 (UTC), in a place far, far away,
(Eric Chomko) made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:26:05 +0000 (UTC), in a place far, far away,
: (Eric Chomko) made the phosphor on my
: monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

: Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: : On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 20:14:14 +0000 (UTC), in a place far, far away,
: : (Eric Chomko) made the phosphor on my
: : monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:
:
: : : Not that he deserved to be shot, but that was one of the most moronic
: : : songs ever written by anyone, ever.
: :
: : Why do you say that? It was a poem put to music.
:
: : It's a brainless and transnationalistic collectivist poem set to
: : music, that many think is somehow deep thought and a useful guiding
: : philosophy to governance.
:
: Okay. How many copies did it sell? Gold? Platinum?

: What difference does it make? No one disputed that it was popular.
: Once again, a non sequitur.

Wrong! It reminds me of what Don McLean said about his song, "American
Pie", meant to him. His response: "It means I never have to work again if
I don't want to."

Which, again, has *nothing to do with my point*. You obviously don't
even know what non sequitur means.

: Disrespect?! You dissed the Lennon song? Now you're confusing disrespect
: with your opinion. You have self-esteem issues don't you, Rand?

: No.

laughing

I beg to differ...

Of course you do. You're a moron. There's nothing you love more than
spouting opinions on which there is zero basis.

"Rand Simberg" wrote in message
...

Of course you do. You're a moron. There's nothing you love more than
spouting opinions on which there is zero basis.

Then why the hell do you continue to respond to him Rand.

If you're so much smarter, do us all a favor and STOP.

Rand Simberg wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:17:25 -0400, in a place far, far away, "Rhonda
Lea Kirk" made the phosphor on my monitor glow
in such a way as to indicate that:
Rand Simberg wrote:

snipped

That's the whole point. It was about "feelings," not rationality
or reality. Many millions have died on the alter of feelings.

Sorry, that should have been "altar of feelings."

grins Ah, but I get such a warm, fuzzy feeling when I wander back
by and see that nothing has changed...except perhaps that Brad gets
nuttier by the day.

The thought of Brad getting nuttier is truly frightening.

I suppose you're right, but every time I see a post from his account, it
just seems more chaotic than the last.

How are ya, Rand?

I'm good Rhonda. Hope you are, too.

I'm doin' okay, although having escaped the hurricanes, I'm now in New
Jersey.

I guess that says everything.

rl
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Insisting on perfect safety is for people
without the balls to live in the real world.
Mary Shafer Iliff