Koelle: Saturn retrospective

Ran across this looking for something else entirely:

"Birth, Life and Death of the Saturn Launch Vehicles", H.H. Koelle

http://vulcain.fb12.tu-berlin.de/Rau...ive/ILR351.pdf

....in English, don't worry. Dated 2001, but parts read as though they
were written c. 1985.

"The author, in his function of Chief, Preliminary Design Branch, U.S.
Army Ballistic Missile Agency, and after joining NASA, as Director,
Future Projects Office, has had a key position during the years of
developing this transportation system in the Huntsville team headed by
Dr. Wernher von Braun..."

Some of the less booster-involved history is a bit shaky - a favourite
is the line "The first Apollo mission was performed in December 1958,
with a flight around the Moon by Col.Frank Borman and his crew, in spite
of all these problems." - but on the whole it seems solid enough.

There's quite an interesting table in the later section where he
converts the dollar costs of Saturn development into engineering
man-years; it comes out at slightly over a million man-years for the
whole thing, of which 700k was Saturn V. (Shuttle, for comparison, was
about 525k man-years for development, not counting post-Challenger)

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-Andrew Gray

On 21 Jun 2005 12:27:56 GMT, Andrew Gray
wrote:

Some of the less booster-involved history is a bit shaky - a favourite
is the line "The first Apollo mission was performed in December 1958,
with a flight around the Moon by Col.Frank Borman and his crew, in spite
of all these problems." - but on the whole it seems solid enough.

....That's more a typo than a lapse of memory. Blame the proofreader,
not the author.

OM

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Andrew Gray wrote:


Some of the less booster-involved history is a bit shaky - a favourite
is the line "The first Apollo mission was performed in December 1958,
with a flight around the Moon by Col.Frank Borman and his crew, in spite
of all these problems." - but on the whole it seems solid enough.


That would have shown those commies, wouldn't it? :-D

Pat

In message , OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org writes
On 21 Jun 2005 12:27:56 GMT, Andrew Gray
wrote:

Some of the less booster-involved history is a bit shaky - a favourite
is the line "The first Apollo mission was performed in December 1958,
with a flight around the Moon by Col.Frank Borman and his crew, in spite
of all these problems." - but on the whole it seems solid enough.

...That's more a typo than a lapse of memory. Blame the proofreader,
not the author.


Maybe, but he also forgot Apollo 7 :-).
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Boycott Jap whale killers.
Remove spam and invalid from address to reply.

Boycott racial slurs first.....

Matthew Ota

On 21 Jun 2005 18:02:21 -0700, "Matthew Ota"
wrote:

Boycott racial slurs first.....

....*what* racial slurs?

OM

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his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

- General George S. Patton, Jr

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 03:05:03 -0500, OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote:

On 21 Jun 2005 18:02:21 -0700, "Matthew Ota"
wrote:

Boycott racial slurs first.....

...*what* racial slurs?

I think he's refering to Jonathan Silverlight's sig, recently changed
from "Boycott whale killers - Japan, Iceland, Norway" to "Boycott
Jap Whale Killers".

Dale

I've never even heard of the Jap Whale...

"Dale" wrote ...
OM wrote:
"Matthew Ota" wrote:

Boycott racial slurs first.....

...*what* racial slurs?

I think he's refering to Jonathan Silverlight's sig, recently changed
from "Boycott whale killers - Japan, Iceland, Norway" to "Boycott
Jap Whale Killers".

I daresay 'Jap' is too minor a term for OM and slipped under his radar.

Its use is most strongly objected to by people in the US - Japanese
or otherwise. Young Japanese _in_ Japan are often un-aware of its
status as a racial slur.

I think he's refering to Jonathan Silverlight's sig,
recently changed from "Boycott whale killers -
Japan, Iceland, Norway" to "Boycott
Jap Whale Killers".

Whatever. The Japanese are asses for hunting whales to extinction and
are no different than other Asians in their complete disregard for the
environment if it comes between them and their preferred snack.

Ditto the similarly weak-charactered Chinese for slaughtering tigers,
rhinos, and who knows what else to make aphrodisiacs so they can have a
hard pecker while bedding some ugly whore.

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:31:36 +0100, "Paul Blay" wrote:

I daresay 'Jap' is too minor a term for OM and slipped under his radar.

Its use is most strongly objected to by people in the US - Japanese
or otherwise. Young Japanese _in_ Japan are often un-aware of its
status as a racial slur.

My girlfriend is Japanese (from Japan). She likes to eat a U.S. snack
cracker called "Cheese-Nips". She thought it was funny after I explained
the baggage that brand name carries Probably means nothing to anybody
under at least 40 anymore, anyway...

Dale