On the EA - the real moon hoax - and much more...

MOON RACE - THIRTY-FIVE YEARS LATER..new revelations, unanswered
questions...

The Real Moon Landing Hoax - the Soviet Union tried to be first to the
moon - and key facts are still being covered up 35 years later!

http://www.astronautix.com/articles/theghoax.htm

Why did the Soviet Union lose the Moon Race? - the reasons the
Americans were first on the moon - in the words of the the Soviet
officials in charge of the secret program..

http://www.astronautix.com/articles/whynrace.htm

Moon Race! - ...the Americans vs the Russians, toe-to-toe...a
side-by-side day-by-day chronology of the desperate struggle to be
first on the moon!

http://www.astronautix.com/articles/moonrace.htm

Key Soviet Meetings! - blow-by-blow narratives of the secret meetings
where the decisions were made on how to meet the Apollo challenge!

http://www.astronautix.com/articles/keylight.htm

The Kamanin Diaries - ... the major source for the personal struggles
of the men and women within the secret Soviet space program!

http://www.astronautix.com/articles/kamaries.htm

Chertok's Memoirs - ... the view from inside the technical and
management belly of the Russian space program!

http://www.astronautix.com/articles/chemoirs.htm

Updated articles:

Mars 5M - Proton-launched soil return mission of the 1970's

http://www.astronautix.com/craft/mars5m.htm

Manned Orbiting Lab - ... the US military's station in space - in
1971!

http://www.astronautix.com/craft/mol.htm

Mark Wade
Encyclopedia Astronautica
http://www.astronautix.com/

Encyclopedia Astronautica wrote:

MOON RACE - THIRTY-FIVE YEARS LATER..new revelations, unanswered
questions...

The Real Moon Landing Hoax - the Soviet Union tried to be first to the
moon - and key facts are still being covered up 35 years later!

http://www.astronautix.com/articles/theghoax.htm


A very interesting article; is there any more data on the "curved
inflatable airlock" coming up? Is it related to the Voskhod one?
I always thought that the Voskhod airlock took an awful lot of
development time and energy for something that was apparently a dead-end
system with no other uses. If all they wanted to do was put a cosmonaut
outside, then why not just open the side hatch after vacuumating the
interior, like on Gemini? The repressurization gear would have weighed
far less than the airlock.
But an airlock makes sense if it is to be attached to another
spacecraft, and one or more crew members without space suits use it to
get from one spacecraft to another- such as was suggested as one method
of moving the crew from the Gemini to the main MOL module.

Pat

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:51:41 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote:



Encyclopedia Astronautica wrote:

MOON RACE - THIRTY-FIVE YEARS LATER..new revelations, unanswered
questions...

The Real Moon Landing Hoax - the Soviet Union tried to be first to the
moon - and key facts are still being covered up 35 years later!

http://www.astronautix.com/articles/theghoax.htm


A very interesting article; is there any more data on the "curved
inflatable airlock" coming up? Is it related to the Voskhod one?
I always thought that the Voskhod airlock took an awful lot of
development time and energy for something that was apparently a dead-end
system with no other uses. If all they wanted to do was put a cosmonaut
outside, then why not just open the side hatch after vacuumating the
interior, like on Gemini? The repressurization gear would have weighed
far less than the airlock.
But an airlock makes sense if it is to be attached to another
spacecraft, and one or more crew members without space suits use it to
get from one spacecraft to another- such as was suggested as one method
of moving the crew from the Gemini to the main MOL module.

Pat

My only idea is that de-pressurising the Voskhod would play havok on
it's systems. The Soviets seemed to have a lot of problems developing
electronics that would work reliably in a vacuum and often pressurised
sections of unmanned craft just so they wouldn't have to worry about
it.

Kelly McDonald

Kelly McDonald a écrit dans le message
: ...
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:51:41 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote:



Encyclopedia Astronautica wrote:

MOON RACE - THIRTY-FIVE YEARS LATER..new revelations, unanswered
questions...

The Real Moon Landing Hoax - the Soviet Union tried to be first to the
moon - and key facts are still being covered up 35 years later!

http://www.astronautix.com/articles/theghoax.htm


A very interesting article; is there any more data on the "curved
inflatable airlock" coming up? Is it related to the Voskhod one?
I always thought that the Voskhod airlock took an awful lot of
development time and energy for something that was apparently a dead-end
system with no other uses. If all they wanted to do was put a cosmonaut
outside, then why not just open the side hatch after vacuumating the
interior, like on Gemini? The repressurization gear would have weighed
far less than the airlock.
But an airlock makes sense if it is to be attached to another
spacecraft, and one or more crew members without space suits use it to
get from one spacecraft to another- such as was suggested as one method
of moving the crew from the Gemini to the main MOL module.

Pat

My only idea is that de-pressurising the Voskhod would play havok on
it's systems. The Soviets seemed to have a lot of problems developing
electronics that would work reliably in a vacuum and often pressurised
sections of unmanned craft just so they wouldn't have to worry about
it.

Kelly McDonald

Just for information, there are tussian electronics in the ATV ( for the
docking system ). They are located in the pressurised part of the S/C.
However, the specification are that they must work in vacuum, as
depressurisation failures must be taken into account.

I suspect something similar on Russian S/C

HAESSIG Frédéric Pierre Tamatoa wrote:


Just for information, there are tussian electronics in the ATV ( for the
docking system ). They are located in the pressurised part of the S/C.
However, the specification are that they must work in vacuum, as
depressurisation failures must be taken into account.


On the early Soyuz capsules the docking electronics were carried in a
jettisonable toroidal tank structure at the base of the equipment
module; the main reason that they needed pressure to operate was that
they used helium gas moved by fans for cooling (helium is highly
temperature conductive; a helium weather balloon taken outside in frigid
temperatures will noticeably shrink in size in a matter of seconds). But
most of the electronics in the reentry sphere of Vostok/Voskhod appear
to be switches, and not the sort of vacuum-tube devices that would
develop much heat- other than the radio systems; and one would think
that developing a pressurized radio case for cooling would be far easier
than an inflatable airlock.

Pat

HAESSIG Frédéric Pierre Tamatoa a écrit dans le
message : ...

Kelly McDonald a écrit dans le
message
: ...
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:51:41 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote:



Encyclopedia Astronautica wrote:

MOON RACE - THIRTY-FIVE YEARS LATER..new revelations, unanswered
questions...

The Real Moon Landing Hoax - the Soviet Union tried to be first to the
moon - and key facts are still being covered up 35 years later!

http://www.astronautix.com/articles/theghoax.htm


A very interesting article; is there any more data on the "curved
inflatable airlock" coming up? Is it related to the Voskhod one?
I always thought that the Voskhod airlock took an awful lot of
development time and energy for something that was apparently a
dead-end
system with no other uses. If all they wanted to do was put a cosmonaut
outside, then why not just open the side hatch after vacuumating the
interior, like on Gemini? The repressurization gear would have weighed
far less than the airlock.
But an airlock makes sense if it is to be attached to another
spacecraft, and one or more crew members without space suits use it to
get from one spacecraft to another- such as was suggested as one method
of moving the crew from the Gemini to the main MOL module.

Pat

My only idea is that de-pressurising the Voskhod would play havok on
it's systems. The Soviets seemed to have a lot of problems developing
electronics that would work reliably in a vacuum and often pressurised
sections of unmanned craft just so they wouldn't have to worry about
it.

Kelly McDonald

Just for information, there are tussian electronics in the ATV ( for the

Should read Russian electronics, obviously.

docking system ). They are located in the pressurised part of the S/C.
However, the specification are that they must work in vacuum, as
depressurisation failures must be taken into account.

I suspect something similar on Russian S/C

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:52:02 +0200, "HAESSIG Frédéric Pierre Tamatoa"
wrote:

HAESSIG Frédéric Pierre Tamatoa a écrit dans le
message : ...

....Would someone speak to this Frog in his own language and tell him
to TRIM HIS QUOTES?

Idiot.

OM

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his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

- General George S. Patton, Jr

OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org a écrit
dans le message : ...
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:52:02 +0200, "HAESSIG Frédéric Pierre Tamatoa"
wrote:

HAESSIG Frédéric Pierre Tamatoa a écrit dans le
message : ...

...Would someone speak to this Frog in his own language and tell him
to TRIM HIS QUOTES?

Idiot.


Your politeness is appreciated.

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:21:18 +0200, "HAESSIG Frédéric Pierre Tamatoa"
wrote:

Your politeness is appreciated.

....Your cooperation in trimming quotes in the future is far more
important. Considering, IIRC, the fact that over in Frogland and the
rest of the Old World, there's a lot of people who are bandwidth
challenged due to narrow connections and "by the minute"(*) connection
charges.

(*) Or whatever useless metric equivalent they use over there for
"minute".

OM

--

"No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m
his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

- General George S. Patton, Jr

OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org a écrit
dans le message : ...
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:21:18 +0200, "HAESSIG Frédéric Pierre Tamatoa"
wrote:

Your politeness is appreciated.

...Your cooperation in trimming quotes in the future is far more
important. Considering, IIRC, the fact that over in Frogland and the
rest of the Old World, there's a lot of people who are bandwidth
challenged due to narrow connections and "by the minute"(*) connection
charges.

(*) Or whatever useless metric equivalent they use over there for
"minute".

OM

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Since the mail which drove you to insults was only 3Kbyte, I can only
imagine you are either using a 300 bps modem or are very hard-pressed for
money ( and by bandwidth by the second ).

Nonetheless, in case someone inadvertantly makes a mistake, the civilised
behaviour is to correct him, not to immediately turn to insults.

Since you used personnal insults four times in two messages, I can only
imagine you wish to start a flamewar. I invite you to do this to my
personnal address above, so we don't bother the group. In other times and
places, I would have invited you to meet me at dawn, but then, in those
times, you'd already have been received a Darwin award.

Eagerly awaiting you mail ( o my personnal address ).