Mars Rover

Would you swear in a court that the Shuttle disappeared
"behind the horizon", when you saw a launch of a Shuttle?

This guy has you hook line and sinker.
Add him to your kill-file and be done with it.

Yes, you WOULD like us to do that, wouldn't you?
Who are you working for?

Would you swear in a court that the Shuttle disappeared
"behind the horizon", when you saw a launch of a Shuttle?

This guy has you hook line and sinker.
Add him to your kill-file and be done with it.

Yes, you WOULD like us to do that, wouldn't you?
Who are you working for?

In message , RetroProphet
writes
Would you swear in a court that the Shuttle disappeared
"behind the horizon", when you saw a launch of a Shuttle?

This guy has you hook line and sinker.
Add him to your kill-file and be done with it.

Yes, you WOULD like us to do that, wouldn't you?
Who are you working for?

Oh god. Paranoid as well. Plonk.
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In message , RetroProphet
writes
Would you swear in a court that the Shuttle disappeared
"behind the horizon", when you saw a launch of a Shuttle?

This guy has you hook line and sinker.
Add him to your kill-file and be done with it.

Yes, you WOULD like us to do that, wouldn't you?
Who are you working for?

Oh god. Paranoid as well. Plonk.
--
Save the Hubble Space Telescope!
Remove spam and invalid from address to reply.

"bart janssens"

From high airplanes with special lenses...


I see, also, if asteroids can orbit us and moons can orbit planets why can't
satellites? After all they are a lot smaller...And oh yes, before I forget,
Mr. Rocket Scientist, if gravity was as pervasive a force as you imagine,
then birds could not fly, Kittyhawk would not have happened and of course
your AWACs planes would not be up there either. You seem to have a problem
working out the nature of thrust, velocity and the effects of gravity. Have
you ever seen the Rings of Saturn (or are these faked too?) Did you know
there are rings around Jupiter and Neptune as well? This is Orbiting Debris.
Since things orbit other things in the solar system without falling prey to
gravity, like we orbit our sun, without falling into it, I would imagine
LOGIC dictates that something can be "put into an orbit." This has been done
a lot for about forty years now.

Your assertion is that no satellites exist. Well guess what, asteroids and
moons and meteors and comets and whole planets are indeed "satellites." And
to manufacture and send up a small satellite is now a piece of cake. Your
physics seems to be confused and you are missing a variable or two somewhere
in your calculations. However since you are not in charge of information
technologies, satellites or anything else the world needs, that kind of
makes you about as useless to us as tits on a boar to those industries and
those who depend on them.

Seeing as the preponderance of the evidence is against your assertion it is
up to you to present an overwhelming wave of evidence that nothing and no
one has ever orbited the earth. Until that time, I will simply conclude you
to be the crack-pot de jeur.

Evidently your mind went into orbit one day and never returned.

Saint

"bart janssens"

From high airplanes with special lenses...


I see, also, if asteroids can orbit us and moons can orbit planets why can't
satellites? After all they are a lot smaller...And oh yes, before I forget,
Mr. Rocket Scientist, if gravity was as pervasive a force as you imagine,
then birds could not fly, Kittyhawk would not have happened and of course
your AWACs planes would not be up there either. You seem to have a problem
working out the nature of thrust, velocity and the effects of gravity. Have
you ever seen the Rings of Saturn (or are these faked too?) Did you know
there are rings around Jupiter and Neptune as well? This is Orbiting Debris.
Since things orbit other things in the solar system without falling prey to
gravity, like we orbit our sun, without falling into it, I would imagine
LOGIC dictates that something can be "put into an orbit." This has been done
a lot for about forty years now.

Your assertion is that no satellites exist. Well guess what, asteroids and
moons and meteors and comets and whole planets are indeed "satellites." And
to manufacture and send up a small satellite is now a piece of cake. Your
physics seems to be confused and you are missing a variable or two somewhere
in your calculations. However since you are not in charge of information
technologies, satellites or anything else the world needs, that kind of
makes you about as useless to us as tits on a boar to those industries and
those who depend on them.

Seeing as the preponderance of the evidence is against your assertion it is
up to you to present an overwhelming wave of evidence that nothing and no
one has ever orbited the earth. Until that time, I will simply conclude you
to be the crack-pot de jeur.

Evidently your mind went into orbit one day and never returned.

Saint

Yes, you WOULD like us to do that, wouldn't you?
Who are you working for?

Oh god. Paranoid as well. Plonk.
--
Remeber - just 'cause you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get
you...

Yes, you WOULD like us to do that, wouldn't you?
Who are you working for?

Oh god. Paranoid as well. Plonk.
--
Remeber - just 'cause you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get
you...

Douglas Berry wrote in message . ..
Lo, many moons past, on 21 Feb 2004 09:57:32 -0800, a stranger called
by some (bart janssens) came forth and
told this tale in alt.atheism

Douglas Berry wrote in message . ..

No, what a crappy motor. There were about 10,000 people on the beach
who also saw the launch. Many of them were using telescopes and high
powered binoculars. They tracked it to the horizon.

But, none of the 10,000 people saw "it" dis-appear
behind the horizon?

Do you think I went around interviewing people? I will say that as we
decamped and started for our secondary viewing sight up the beach a
ways, there were many people still tracking.

So, they were tracking the Space-Shuttle that had not yet dis-appeared,
while you were preparing for the re-appearence of the Space Shuttle?

So, how can you claim that the Space Shuttle re-appeared
from behind the horizon,
if it did not dis-appear behind the horizon, in the first place?

So, about "the thing" that you saw within 100 minutes of launch...
Did you see it "appear from behind the horizon"...?
I suppose the answer is "yes"!

Yup. We knew what the orbital track was, and had the telescope set up
in a place where we could spot it as it rose.

Douglas Berry wrote in message . ..
Lo, many moons past, on 21 Feb 2004 09:57:32 -0800, a stranger called
by some (bart janssens) came forth and
told this tale in alt.atheism

Douglas Berry wrote in message . ..

No, what a crappy motor. There were about 10,000 people on the beach
who also saw the launch. Many of them were using telescopes and high
powered binoculars. They tracked it to the horizon.

But, none of the 10,000 people saw "it" dis-appear
behind the horizon?

Do you think I went around interviewing people? I will say that as we
decamped and started for our secondary viewing sight up the beach a
ways, there were many people still tracking.

So, they were tracking the Space-Shuttle that had not yet dis-appeared,
while you were preparing for the re-appearence of the Space Shuttle?

So, how can you claim that the Space Shuttle re-appeared
from behind the horizon,
if it did not dis-appear behind the horizon, in the first place?

So, about "the thing" that you saw within 100 minutes of launch...
Did you see it "appear from behind the horizon"...?
I suppose the answer is "yes"!

Yup. We knew what the orbital track was, and had the telescope set up
in a place where we could spot it as it rose.