Ares-1 delayed 1 year?

You make heads or tails of this mess:
http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...internall.html

Pat

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:55:45 -0600, in a place far, far away, Pat
Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

You make heads or tails of this mess:
http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...internall.html

Whoever the new president is will have to deal with this. The first
thing that I'd do is form a commission to review the "analysis" that
led to ESAS. I suspect that they'll find that the sixty-day study was
extremely flawed and driven by the biases of its participants (Mike's
OSC mafia and Horowitz), and that it ignored all of the data provided
by the CE&R contracts.

On Jan 21, 7:55 am, Pat Flannery wrote:
You make heads or tails of this mess:http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...internall.html

Pat

Shove some rods in before the casting? This is looking more, and more
like we will do a Ares V, or IV config out of the gate, (or a Delta IV
with scaled down CEV). As for the next admin. changing the program,
(What a nightmare it would be if Clinton or the Jr. from IL got the
lob).,we will be holding hands in orbit, (and singing folk songs with
the Russians), for the next 10 years. I feel more and more like it is
the mid 70's revisited.

Carl

P.S.
We need to have a fella like John Young, in charge of the program,
(with a mandate to put boots an the moon by 2015, NEA by 2020, and
Mars 2022). Define a real schedule, and fund it with no B.S. from the
talking heads.

Rand Simberg wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:55:45 -0600, in a place far, far away, Pat
Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

You make heads or tails of this mess:
http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...internall.html

Whoever the new president is will have to deal with this. The first
thing that I'd do is form a commission to review the "analysis" that
led to ESAS. I suspect that they'll find that the sixty-day study was
extremely flawed and driven by the biases of its participants (Mike's
OSC mafia and Horowitz), and that it ignored all of the data provided
by the CE&R contracts.

Maybe they'll put Scotty The Whore Horowitz in jail where he belongs.

surfduke writes:

On Jan 21, 7:55 am, Pat Flannery wrote:
You make heads or tails of this mess:http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...internall.html

Shove some rods in before the casting? This is looking more, and more
like we will do a Ares V, or IV config out of the gate, (or a Delta IV
with scaled down CEV). As for the next admin. changing the program,
(What a nightmare it would be if Clinton or the Jr. from IL got the
lob).,we will be holding hands in orbit, (and singing folk songs with
the Russians), for the next 10 years. I feel more and more like it is
the mid 70's revisited.

Carl

I am filled with admiration by your creative extending of
traditional punctuation.


P.S.
We need to have a fella like John Young, in charge of the program,
(with a mandate to put boots an the moon by 2015, NEA by 2020, and
Mars 2022). Define a real schedule, and fund it with no B.S. from the
talking heads.

Oh, it's just a matter of Having The Will, and a Schedule?
Man, makes you wonder what was wrong with everybody from 1967 onward
that we didn't think of that. Thanks for clearing things up. And
keep it up with the punctuation marks, too.

--
Joseph Nebus
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Rand Simberg wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:55:45 -0600, in a place far, far away, Pat
Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

You make heads or tails of this mess:
http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...internall.html

Whoever the new president is will have to deal with this.

Just like the next president will have to deal with your wars and your
debts, asshole.

surfduke wrote:
You make heads or tails of this mess:http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...internall.html

Pat


Shove some rods in before the casting?


For anyone missing that reference, placing "resonance rods" inside the
fuel grain of a solid fuel engine is one way to stop it from vibrating
excessively at high frequency during combustion, and tearing itself apart.
You can see them in this cutaway of a Nike booster:
http://ed-thelen.org/booster.gif
I'd love to see how you'd keep them in place in something the size of a
SRB. :-)
(Cut to image of them flying out the nozzle and impaling vehicles on the
ground like red-hot 150' long spears.)
Their weight would be impressive also.

Pat

On 21 Gen, 14:19, (Rand Simberg) wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:55:45 -0600, in a place far, far away, Pat
Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

You make heads or tails of this mess:
http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...internall.html

Whoever the new president is will have to deal with this. *The first
thing that I'd do is form a commission to review the "analysis" that
led to ESAS. *I suspect that they'll find that the sixty-day study was
extremely flawed and driven by the biases of its participants (Mike's
OSC mafia and Horowitz), and that it ignored all of the data provided
by the CE&R contracts.

MAYBE... SOMEDAY... SOMEONE WILL ADMITS I WAS RIGHT IN ALL MY ARTICLES
AND POSTS ON FORUMS AND BLOGS...

JUST SEARCH AND READ MY 1500+ POSTS ON UPLINK.SPACE.COM WRITTEN IN THE
LAST MONTHS OF 2005 WHEN WE HAD ONLY A FEW INFO ABOUT THE ESAS PLAN
(PUBLISHED AT THE END OF 2005) AND YOU CAN DISCOVER THAT ALL THE
PROBLEMS OF THE ESAS PLAN'S DESIGN FLAWS, HIGH COSTS, VERY LONG
TIMELINE, ETC. WAS ALREADY PREDICTED AND EXPLAINED 2.5 YEARS AGO !!!

THE SAME FOR MY FEW POSTS ON NSF

BOTH BANNED ME WHEN THEY HAVE SEEN THAT I DON'T OBEY TO THEIR DICTATS
ABOUT THE OPINIONS I CAN OR I CAN'T POST (SINCE I WRITE WHAT I SAY AND
I SAY WHAT I THINK) AND I'M NOT A SUPPORTER OF THEIR OWN "DIRECT-
LOBBY"

YOU, ALSO, HAS ALLOWED THE USERS OF YOUR BLOG TO POST INSULTS AGAINST
ME WITHOUT DELETE THEM (LIKE DONE SEVERAL TIMES WITH THE LINKS TO MY
"DISLIKED" ARCGUMENTS' ARTICLES...)

THEN, FINALLY, YOU AND OTHER "SPACE GURU" DISCOVER THAT THE ESAS PLAN
HAS LOTS OF DESIGN FLAWS...

.

gaetanomarano wrote:

JUST SEARCH AND READ MY 1500+ POSTS ON UPLINK.SPACE.COM WRITTEN IN THE
LAST MONTHS OF 2005 WHEN WE HAD ONLY A FEW INFO ABOUT THE ESAS PLAN
(PUBLISHED AT THE END OF 2005) AND YOU CAN DISCOVER THAT ALL THE
PROBLEMS OF THE ESAS PLAN'S DESIGN FLAWS, HIGH COSTS, VERY LONG
TIMELINE, ETC. WAS ALREADY PREDICTED AND EXPLAINED 2.5 YEARS AGO !!!


JUST READ MY 34,996 POSTINGS AND LEARN ABOUT THE SLUTTY WOMEN WHO
LIVE ON VENUS, AND THE STRANGE PEOPLE AND ANIMALS THAT INHABIT THE OTHER
PLANETS AND MOONS OF OUR SOLAR SYSTEM !!! ;-)

PAT!

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:15:23 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away,
gaetanomarano made the phosphor on my monitor
glow in such a way as to indicate that:

On 21 Gen, 14:19, (Rand Simberg) wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:55:45 -0600, in a place far, far away, Pat
Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

You make heads or tails of this mess:
http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...internall.html

Whoever the new president is will have to deal with this. *The first
thing that I'd do is form a commission to review the "analysis" that
led to ESAS. *I suspect that they'll find that the sixty-day study was
extremely flawed and driven by the biases of its participants (Mike's
OSC mafia and Horowitz), and that it ignored all of the data provided
by the CE&R contracts.

MAYBE... SOMEDAY... SOMEONE WILL ADMITS I WAS RIGHT IN ALL MY ARTICLES
AND POSTS ON FORUMS AND BLOGS...

JUST SEARCH AND READ MY 1500+ POSTS ON UPLINK.SPACE.COM WRITTEN IN THE
LAST MONTHS OF 2005 WHEN WE HAD ONLY A FEW INFO ABOUT THE ESAS PLAN
(PUBLISHED AT THE END OF 2005) AND YOU CAN DISCOVER THAT ALL THE
PROBLEMS OF THE ESAS PLAN'S DESIGN FLAWS, HIGH COSTS, VERY LONG
TIMELINE, ETC. WAS ALREADY PREDICTED AND EXPLAINED 2.5 YEARS AGO !!!

THE SAME FOR MY FEW POSTS ON NSF

BOTH BANNED ME WHEN THEY HAVE SEEN THAT I DON'T OBEY TO THEIR DICTATS
ABOUT THE OPINIONS I CAN OR I CAN'T POST (SINCE I WRITE WHAT I SAY AND
I SAY WHAT I THINK) AND I'M NOT A SUPPORTER OF THEIR OWN "DIRECT-
LOBBY"

YOU, ALSO, HAS ALLOWED THE USERS OF YOUR BLOG TO POST INSULTS AGAINST
ME WITHOUT DELETE THEM (LIKE DONE SEVERAL TIMES WITH THE LINKS TO MY
"DISLIKED" ARCGUMENTS' ARTICLES...)

I generally allow freedom of speech on my blog. Particularly when I
agree with it.

THEN, FINALLY, YOU AND OTHER "SPACE GURU" DISCOVER THAT THE ESAS PLAN
HAS LOTS OF DESIGN FLAWS...

I've been saying that ESAS was flawed from the day it was announced,
you idiot.