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Old September 3rd 04, 07:48 AM
Abdul Ahad
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Dear All,

I would like some advice and comments please on the feasibility to
mine comets in-flight on a hypothetical futuristic spaceflight mission
towards Alpha Centauri, I have outlined in this research article:-

http://uk.geocities.com/aa_spaceagen...ropulsion.html

Specific questions I have a

Is it feasible to have a large scale robotic arm on the scale of some
2 or 3 kilometres in length that can stand the stress of gripping onto
comets whilst the ship is docking with them (gently) in-flight?

Based on the current material science advances, is this kind of
framework conceivably viable for tens of *thousands* of years on such
a long voyage well into the future? Will it be structurally robust
enough to withstand several docking maneouvres with comets?

Since the main asteroid ship is rotating, if the comets are of say
just a quarter or so the size/mass of the actual starship (the
asteroid), when gripping comets in-flight, will the spin rate of the
ship slow down too dramatically, when such a comet is gripped by the
robotic arm?

What is the best method of *steering* the starship (without affecting
its spin) so as to "pitch" it from side to side or to turn it around?
My own view would be to apply 'pulse' thrust at favourable points
during the rotation. Is it feasible to do this?

Really appreciate any thoughts on these.
Many thanks.
Abdul Ahad

MODERATOR: Please can you consider this one in a serious light. I am
getting heavy criticism on this aspect of my research article. Please
be *kind* and let my post through... (I promise I wont pester this
group again!). Cheers. Abdul.
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Old September 12th 04, 04:24 AM
Rodney Kelp
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Why not just commandeer a comet and ride it around the galaxy. Land on it,
build an underground (under ice) colony and live on it. Plenty of water for
fuel cells and possibly hydrophonic vegetable gardens. Build recording
instrements and observatories on the surface. Transmit the information back
to earth.

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Dear All,

I would like some advice and comments please on the feasibility to
mine comets in-flight on a hypothetical futuristic spaceflight mission
towards Alpha Centauri, I have outlined in this research article:-


http://uk.geocities.com/aa_spaceagen...ropulsion.html

Specific questions I have a

Is it feasible to have a large scale robotic arm on the scale of some
2 or 3 kilometres in length that can stand the stress of gripping onto
comets whilst the ship is docking with them (gently) in-flight?

Based on the current material science advances, is this kind of
framework conceivably viable for tens of *thousands* of years on such
a long voyage well into the future? Will it be structurally robust
enough to withstand several docking maneouvres with comets?

Since the main asteroid ship is rotating, if the comets are of say
just a quarter or so the size/mass of the actual starship (the
asteroid), when gripping comets in-flight, will the spin rate of the
ship slow down too dramatically, when such a comet is gripped by the
robotic arm?

What is the best method of *steering* the starship (without affecting
its spin) so as to "pitch" it from side to side or to turn it around?
My own view would be to apply 'pulse' thrust at favourable points
during the rotation. Is it feasible to do this?

Really appreciate any thoughts on these.
Many thanks.
Abdul Ahad

MODERATOR: Please can you consider this one in a serious light. I am
getting heavy criticism on this aspect of my research article. Please
be *kind* and let my post through... (I promise I wont pester this
group again!). Cheers. Abdul.



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Old September 13th 04, 07:15 AM
Michael J Wise
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Two words: Delta V.

Or, to flesh it out a bit, it will cost you FAR MORE fuel than it could
ever possibly be worth to attempt any sort of a rendezvous with
ANYTHING that one might get within a few miles of if one was on their
way to Alpha Centauri.

And then there's the whole issue of getting back up to speed again.

A mission to even the nearest star will involve either a "slowboat" big
enough for whole generations to be born, grow up, grow old and die
before the ship gets there, of a very light, very fast ship that will
be almost entirely a tank of antiprotons, or something along the lines
of a solar sail.

If we find some kewl way to travel thru HyperSpace between now and
whenever, all bets are off, but ... so far, we have no indication that
there even IS any "HyperSpace" to travel thru. So that idea is dead in
the water for the forseeable future.

Aloha mai Nai`a.

 




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