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Old August 12th 15, 11:38 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"Earth's axis of rotation is tilted. The North Pole always points in the same direction during Earth's year-long journey around the Sun. So, different parts of Earth get the Sun's direct rays throughout the year. That is why we have seasons!" NASA

http://climatekids.nasa.gov/polar-temperatures/

Here we have people from the most renowned space agency in the world unable to handle the evolution of Arctic sea ice and the dynamic behind it while instructing kids at the same time.

The best way to handle the seasons including sea ice appearance and disappearance as a result of two distinct surface rotations to the central Sun is to begin with the creation and disappearance of frost at lower latitudes. As a location turn away from the central Sun's radiation daily, the area cools and frost forms as a result with its disappearance coming from the return of radiation as the location turns back into sunlight, something so obvious that nobody in their right mind would doubt it.

The year long polar day/night cycle is no different as the polar latitudes turn in a circle to the central Sun and parallel with the orbital plane as a function of the orbital behavior of the Earth. Nobody should doubt that the trillions of tons of sea ice created each year in the Arctic is a consequence of a surface rotation to the central Sun as distinct from daily rotation and its characteristics.

Planetary climate is Not based on long term weather patterns, climate is defined astronomically as all planets have climates which can be compared with others within the solar system with the degree of inclination being the common factor which defines climate within a spectrum.

This is open source material as the conclusions are drawn from direct observations of a planet turning in two distinct ways to the Sun seen at roughly 49 seconds into the time lapse footage -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=612gSZsplpE


The knuckleheads who are trying to extend weather modeling into 'climate' and then making doom laden predictions on that account are being disruptive to climate research within the realm of astronomy. The only way to counter an aggressive cult is not to contend with its strictures but to expand the issues out to non confrontational technical issues and hope there are enough reasonable people out there who value their ability to reason as opposed to falling into convictions of others.

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Old August 12th 15, 11:58 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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oriel36 wrote:
"Earth's axis of rotation is tilted. The North Pole always points in the
same direction during Earth's year-long journey around the Sun. So,
different parts of Earth get the Sun's direct rays throughout the year.
That is why we have seasons!" NASA

http://climatekids.nasa.gov/polar-temperatures/


It's pity your mental problems prevent you from understanding this
simplified explanation for children. I suggest you ask a seven year old to
explain it to you as simply as possible.
Several times if necessary
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Old August 12th 15, 12:32 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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The issue of planetary climate comparisons is for people who can make sense of imaging demonstrating the need to explain the polar day/night cycle and sea ice evolution using a separate rotation to daily rotation and its characteristics as opposed to those who simply cannot.

Were the Earth to have the rotational inclination of Uranus, while retaining it's rotational speed and orbital characteristics, it would have a polar climate while if it had an inclination like Jupiter it would have an Equatorial climate.

Again the whole issue is open source but requires adults to handle the implications and interpretations.
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Old August 12th 15, 12:40 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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oriel36 wrote:
The issue of planetary climate comparisons is for people who can make sense of imaging.


hat's why I told you to ask a seven year old to explain it to you. You have
less ability to interpret images than the average three year old child.


Were the Earth to have the rotational inclination of Uranus, while
retaining it's rotational speed and orbital characteristics, it would
have a polar climate while if it had an inclination like Jupiter it would
have an Equatorial climate.


In both of those cases the earth would be uninhabitable.

Again the whole issue is open source but requires adults to handle the
implications and interpretations.


But in this case you are not an adult. You lack the adult ability to
interpret visual images. It's not too late to seek help for this
disability.
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Old August 12th 15, 01:28 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Let these thugs scream away in the background, thugs who are every bit as sickening as the Middle Easter thugs out to destroy a heritage.

The great polar day/night and the surface rotation behind is certain to create that spark needed to ignite research into climate as an outrigger of the solar system and the majestic motions and characteristics of each planet.

On our home planet there is Arctic sea ice evolution representing that orbital surface rotation as the Earth moves through space and turns slowly and unevenly to the central Sun. At lower latitudes where this surface rotation combines with daily rotation there are the hemispherical seasons and global variations in the natural noon cycle from a 24 hour average.

If people want to ignore that there is a surface rotation as a consequence of the orbital motion through space then they are also going to have to ignore the cause of the roughly 6 months of daylight followed by 6 months of darkness t the Northern and Southern polar surfaces points.

Old age pensioners unwilling to help their grandkids is fine with me as I already have done it for them. Given the choice to help the innocent in the future or support the flawed and sometimes false icons of the past is always a choice before us but when I see kids with schoolbags I delight in my own contributions that have yet to make into into educational circulation regardless as to whether these students know it or not.
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Old August 12th 15, 01:30 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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oriel36 wrote:
Let these thugs scream away in the background, thugs who are every bit as
sickening as the Middle Easter thugs out to destroy a heritage.

The great polar day/night and the surface rotation behind is certain to
create that spark needed to ignite research into climate as an outrigger
of the solar system and the majestic motions and characteristics of each planet.

On our home planet there is Arctic sea ice evolution representing that
orbital surface rotation as the Earth moves through space and turns
slowly and unevenly to the central Sun. At lower latitudes where this
surface rotation combines with daily rotation there are the hemispherical
seasons and global variations in the natural noon cycle from a 24 hour average.

If people want to ignore that there is a surface rotation as a
consequence of the orbital motion through space then they are also going
to have to ignore the cause of the roughly 6 months of daylight followed
by 6 months of darkness t the Northern and Southern polar surfaces points.

Old age pensioners unwilling to help their grandkids is fine with me as I
already have done it for them. Given the choice to help the innocent in
the future or support the flawed and sometimes false icons of the past is
always a choice before us but when I see kids with schoolbags I delight
in my own contributions that have yet to make into into educational
circulation regardless as to whether these students know it or not.


My grandchildren would be happy to help you with your learning
difficulties!
Would you like to make an appointment?
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Old August 12th 15, 06:14 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/ful...h-Pole-Station

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dsen-Scott.png

It was dark yesterday, today , tomorrow and some time to come as this area inhabited by humans is influenced by the polar day/night cycle alone and the surface rotation as a property of the orbital motion of the Earth.

It takes a small spark to ignite the appreciation of the great surface rotation to the central Sun which happens as the Earth moves through space in a specific way.

Thugs hate those things which interfere with their own estimation of themselves and especially hate the possibility that students will be influenced by expansive ideas . It is why the Middle Eastern thugs of isis killed 19 girls last week as they had that bravery to face execution rather than bend to cult convictions. The empirical ideology which challenges the most basic facts, whether it is the relationship between the Lat/Long system and the 24 hour system to a single 360 degree rotation of the Earth, the inviolate proportion of Pi or any other simple fact is far more corrosive to Western society than anything seen before.

The polar day/night cycle is real as is the surface rotation behind it along with the great event of sea ice appearance and its disappearance.
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Old August 12th 15, 10:07 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 6:14:25 PM UTC+1, oriel36 wrote:
http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/ful...h-Pole-Station

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dsen-Scott.png

It was dark yesterday, today , tomorrow and some time to come as this area inhabited by humans is influenced by the polar day/night cycle alone and the surface rotation as a property of the orbital motion of the Earth.

It takes a small spark to ignite the appreciation of the great surface rotation to the central Sun which happens as the Earth moves through space in a specific way.

Thugs hate those things which interfere with their own estimation of themselves and especially hate the possibility that students will be influenced by expansive ideas . It is why the Middle Eastern thugs of isis killed 19 girls last week as they had that bravery to face execution rather than bend to cult convictions. The empirical ideology which challenges the most basic facts, whether it is the relationship between the Lat/Long system and the 24 hour system to a single 360 degree rotation of the Earth, the inviolate proportion of Pi or any other simple fact is far more corrosive to Western society than anything seen before.

The polar day/night cycle is real as is the surface rotation behind it along with the great event of sea ice appearance and its disappearance.


http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/ful...h-Pole-Station

Check out those beautiful auroras at the Southern most daily rotational point.

A line running through the center of the Earth and determined by the circle of illumination shows the rotational points at 23 1/2 degrees above the most Southern points defined by the orbital plane Hence the North/South poles are carried around in a circle to the central Sun each annual circuit.

http://scitechdaily.com/images/Afric...Miles-Away.jpg

http://www.astronomy.com/-/media/Fil...ransitfull.gif

I wouldn't even know what it must take to ignore the cause of the polar day/night cycle and sea ice evolution when imaging clearly shows why dual surface rotations are necessary however there is a hatred out against astronomy by people who refuse to look at anything past their local horizon and a magnification exercise.

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Old August 12th 15, 10:18 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Mike Collins[_4_]
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oriel36 wrote:
On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 6:14:25 PM UTC+1, oriel36 wrote:
http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/ful...h-Pole-Station

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dsen-Scott.png

It was dark yesterday, today , tomorrow and some time to come as this
area inhabited by humans is influenced by the polar day/night cycle
alone and the surface rotation as a property of the orbital motion of the Earth.

It takes a small spark to ignite the appreciation of the great surface
rotation to the central Sun which happens as the Earth moves through
space in a specific way.

Thugs hate those things which interfere with their own estimation of
themselves and especially hate the possibility that students will be
influenced by expansive ideas . It is why the Middle Eastern thugs of
isis killed 19 girls last week as they had that bravery to face
execution rather than bend to cult convictions. The empirical ideology
which challenges the most basic facts, whether it is the relationship
between the Lat/Long system and the 24 hour system to a single 360
degree rotation of the Earth, the inviolate proportion of Pi or any
other simple fact is far more corrosive to Western society than anything seen before.

The polar day/night cycle is real as is the surface rotation behind it
along with the great event of sea ice appearance and its disappearance.


http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/ful...h-Pole-Station

Check out those beautiful auroras at the Southern most daily rotational point.

A line running through the center of the Earth and determined by the
circle of illumination shows the rotational points at 23 1/2 degrees
above the most Southern points defined by the orbital plane Hence the
North/South poles are carried around in a circle to the central Sun each annual circuit.

http://scitechdaily.com/images/Afric...Miles-Away.jpg

http://www.astronomy.com/-/media/Fil...ransitfull.gif

I wouldn't even know what it must take to ignore the cause of the polar
day/night cycle and sea ice evolution when imaging clearly shows why
dual surface is so poor that yourotations are necessary however there is
a hatred out against astronomy by people who refuse to look at anything
past their local horizon and a magnification exercise.



Of course you don't know. That's because you ignore the inconvenient fact
that you are wrong, That means you have to also ignore all the evidence
which shows you are wrong. You are so incapable of understanding the facts
that you post evidence which shows how wrong you are and expect everyone to
ignore it. You constantly lie by suggesting that anyone in the world other
than you believes your wannabe cult. However your case is so poor that you
don't have a single believer. Tens of thousands believe Elvis Presley is
alive but you can't convince a single person.
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Old August 13th 15, 07:16 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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There are literally dozens of things to comment on once imaging is front and center so there is really no time to waste on voodoo merchants or the dour who seem to hate everything .

http://www.webcams.travel/webcam/ful...h-Pole-Station

All time zones converge at the Southern polar station so effectively the orbital day/night cycle and a year long clock takes over. If the June Solstice determines it is 12 Midnight in orbital time and at the September Equinox it is 6 AM within the orbital day, then it is currently after 3 AM orbital time at the South pole and 3 PM orbital time at the North pole. In a purely technical sense the orbital day extends to all lower latitudes but just as the 24 hour day and daily rotational designations of timezones are meaningless at the poles, the orbital day ceases to have any meaning at the Equator.

It is a great deal of fun for those who can reason and it is entirely new. This forum remains the best chance to circulate these ideas which return things such as climate back into research mode instead of trying to squeeze it into a minor atmospheric gas and middle class lifestyles.





 




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