CHINA Launches Satellite For Moon Orbit: First Step Toward Lunar Domination -- Or Ownership?

China, Japan, and India are determined to be large players in space
technology and exploration. And they're heavily invested in an
undertaking they believe will dominate the 21st century.

China in January successfully shot-down a satellite target with a
missile, serving notice that the failed and foolhardy U.S. "Star Wars"
notwithstanding, China has a can-do attitude that could propel it to
super-powerdom in a few years.

Meanwhile, your White House war criminal's twin Middle East wars are
expected to tie up $2.4-trillion dollars over the next decade, money
that probably neither the Chinese, the Japanese, or the Indians would
so stupidly spend on doomed-to-fail military adventures.
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" Chinese Satellite Heading for Lunar Orbit Showcases Ambitious Space
Program"

By Edward Cody
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, October 25, 2007; A16


BEIJING, Oct. 24 -- China launched a satellite rocketing toward lunar
orbit Wednesday evening, the latest step in an ambitious national
program to send more men into space, build a space station and
eventually land Chinese astronauts on the moon.

The satellite, called Chang'e after a legendary Chinese goddess who
flew to the moon, was lifted into space atop a white-painted Long
March 3A rocket that blasted off at 6:05 p.m. from the Xichang Launch
Center in Sichuan province in central China. The China National Space
Administration said Chang'e was scheduled to enter a lunar orbit on
Nov. 5 and send back images and analyses of the moon's surface for
about a year.

The trouble-free liftoff, with flame and white smoke billowing out of
the rocket, was heralded by commentators and broadcast live on
government television, underlining the Communist Party's desire to
cultivate national pride in a growing list of accomplishments in
space. The launch took place just two days after a national Communist
Party congress acclaimed Hu Jintao for a second five-year term as
party leader, president and military chief.

"The launch shows our comprehensive state power," said Jiao Weixin, a
professor at Peking University's School of Earth and Space Sciences.
"It can help to improve our image in the world. Chinese would feel
excited and greatly encouraged by just having a Chinese Nobel Prize
winner, let alone having the chance to prove to the world our
capability to explore space."

Jiao noted that China, which first sent a man into space in 2003 and
repeated the exploit with a two-man team in 2005, still lags far
behind the United States and Russia in space exploration. Japan
launched a probe into lunar orbit for the first time on Oct. 5, and
India has a similar plan on the drawing board. But Jiao described
Wednesday's launch as a milestone for China's efforts, signifying that
Chinese engineers have the know-how to probe the moon.

"Chinese people will be encouraged by it," he said.

Li Hang, 24, who advises students seeking to study abroad, agreed, but
he expressed doubt that exploits in space would have an immediate
impact on the daily lives of China's 1.3 billion people. "However," he
added, "it definitely will have an impact on China's national defense
ability and the relationships between China and other countries."

In addition to serving as a rallying point for national pride, China's
50-year-old space exploration program has begun to return commercial
profits. Chinese rockets for a number of years have been launching
other countries' satellites at attractive rates. Last May, Chinese
technicians launched a Chinese-manufactured communications satellite
for Nigeria, marking the first time China had built a commercial
satellite and sent it into orbit on contract for another country.

Launch officials were definitely into the business spirit Wednesday.
They charged tourists a little over $100 for access to two viewing
platforms at the launch site, about 1,000 miles southwest of Beijing.

Although Chinese leaders emphasize that their goal is peaceful space
exploration in cooperation with other nations, the fast-paced and well-
funded program has raised fears it could also have military
applications. The military has been in charge of space exploration
since the program began. Troops successfully test-fired an anti-
satellite missile in January, destroying an out-of-date weather
satellite in what some analysts interpreted as a sign U.S. military
satellites could be vulnerable in case of a conflict in the Taiwan
Strait.

China has laid out plans to follow the Chang'e lunar approach with an
attempt to land a vessel on the moon and deploy a vehicle to rove its
surface within the next five years. According to the China National
Space Administration, if that experiment is successful, the following
step, over the subsequent five years, would be to send a ship to the
moon that could gather soil samples and return to Earth.

The goal of putting astronauts on the moon also has been much talked
about in China. Hu Shixiang, who was deputy commander of the manned
space flight program, said two years ago that China hopes to have men
on the moon by 2020 if the pace of funding is kept up. But the Chinese
government, which draws up its space exploration plans in five-year
increments, has avoided pinning itself down to a specific date.

Chinese space engineers have scheduled another manned vehicle launch,
including a spacewalk, for 2008. A government-endorsed blueprint also
calls for a rendezvous between two spacecraft and the construction of
a space laboratory in coming years.

China also is seeking to join the International Space Station program,
which includes the United States, Russia, Japan, Canada, Brazil and 11
European Space Agency countries, according to Li Xueyong, vice
minister of science and technology. Li said China is eager to
cooperate with other countries in space.

Yang Liwei, the first Chinese astronaut sent into space, said during
the Community Party's 17th National Congress last week that his
colleagues in the space program have wondered about starting the
party's first branch in space. It would be possible, he said, if China
can develop a station large enough to hold three people -- the minimum
for starting a cell.

(Researchers Li Jie and Xu Tianxing contributed to this report.)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...102400443.html

On Oct 25, 11:06 am, Balsina Twyst wrote:
Meanwhile, your White House war criminal's twin Middle East wars are
expected to tie up $2.4-trillion dollars over the next decade, money
that probably neither the Chinese, the Japanese, or the Indians would
so stupidly spend on doomed-to-fail military adventures.

True.

On Oct 25, 11:06 am, Balsina Twyst wrote:
China, Japan, and India are determined to be large players in space
technology and exploration. And they're heavily invested in an
undertaking they believe will dominate the 21st century.

China in January successfully shot-down a satellite target with a
missile, serving notice that the failed and foolhardy U.S. "Star Wars"
notwithstanding, China has a can-do attitude that could propel it to
super-powerdom in a few years.

Meanwhile, your White House war criminal's twin Middle East wars are
expected to tie up $2.4-trillion dollars over the next decade, money
that probably neither the Chinese, the Japanese, or the Indians would
so stupidly spend on doomed-to-fail military adventures.
--------------------------------
" Chinese Satellite Heading for Lunar Orbit Showcases Ambitious Space
Program"

By Edward Cody
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, October 25, 2007; A16

BEIJING, Oct. 24 -- China launched a satellite rocketing toward lunar
orbit Wednesday evening, the latest step in an ambitious national
program to send more men into space, build a space station and
eventually land Chinese astronauts on the moon.

The satellite, called Chang'e after a legendary Chinese goddess who
flew to the moon, was lifted into space atop a white-painted Long
March 3A rocket that blasted off at 6:05 p.m. from the Xichang Launch
Center in Sichuan province in central China. The China National Space
Administration said Chang'e was scheduled to enter a lunar orbit on
Nov. 5 and send back images and analyses of the moon's surface for
about a year.

The trouble-free liftoff, with flame and white smoke billowing out of
the rocket, was heralded by commentators and broadcast live on
government television, underlining the Communist Party's desire to
cultivate national pride in a growing list of accomplishments in
space. The launch took place just two days after a national Communist
Party congress acclaimed Hu Jintao for a second five-year term as
party leader, president and military chief.

"The launch shows our comprehensive state power," said Jiao Weixin, a
professor at Peking University's School of Earth and Space Sciences.
"It can help to improve our image in the world. Chinese would feel
excited and greatly encouraged by just having a Chinese Nobel Prize
winner, let alone having the chance to prove to the world our
capability to explore space."

Jiao noted that China, which first sent a man into space in 2003 and
repeated the exploit with a two-man team in 2005, still lags far
behind the United States and Russia in space exploration. Japan
launched a probe into lunar orbit for the first time on Oct. 5, and
India has a similar plan on the drawing board. But Jiao described
Wednesday's launch as a milestone for China's efforts, signifying that
Chinese engineers have the know-how to probe the moon.

"Chinese people will be encouraged by it," he said.

Li Hang, 24, who advises students seeking to study abroad, agreed, but
he expressed doubt that exploits in space would have an immediate
impact on the daily lives of China's 1.3 billion people. "However," he
added, "it definitely will have an impact on China's national defense
ability and the relationships between China and other countries."

In addition to serving as a rallying point for national pride, China's
50-year-old space exploration program has begun to return commercial
profits. Chinese rockets for a number of years have been launching
other countries' satellites at attractive rates. Last May, Chinese
technicians launched a Chinese-manufactured communications satellite
for Nigeria, marking the first time China had built a commercial
satellite and sent it into orbit on contract for another country.

Launch officials were definitely into the business spirit Wednesday.
They charged tourists a little over $100 for access to two viewing
platforms at the launch site, about 1,000 miles southwest of Beijing.

Although Chinese leaders emphasize that their goal is peaceful space
exploration in cooperation with other nations, the fast-paced and well-
funded program has raised fears it could also have military
applications. The military has been in charge of space exploration
since the program began. Troops successfully test-fired an anti-
satellite missile in January, destroying an out-of-date weather
satellite in what some analysts interpreted as a sign U.S. military
satellites could be vulnerable in case of a conflict in the Taiwan
Strait.

China has laid out plans to follow the Chang'e lunar approach with an
attempt to land a vessel on the moon and deploy a vehicle to rove its
surface within the next five years. According to the China National
Space Administration, if that experiment is successful, the following
step, over the subsequent five years, would be to send a ship to the
moon that could gather soil samples and return to Earth.

The goal of putting astronauts on the moon also has been much talked
about in China. Hu Shixiang, who was deputy commander of the manned
space flight program, said two years ago that China hopes to have men
on the moon by 2020 if the pace of funding is kept up. But the Chinese
government, which draws up its space exploration plans in five-year
increments, has avoided pinning itself down to a specific date.

Chinese space engineers have scheduled another manned vehicle launch,
including a spacewalk, for 2008. A government-endorsed blueprint also
calls for a rendezvous between two spacecraft and the construction of
a space laboratory in coming years.

China also is seeking to join the International Space Station program,
which includes the United States, Russia, Japan, Canada, Brazil and 11
European Space Agency countries, according to Li Xueyong, vice
minister of science and technology. Li said China is eager to
cooperate with other countries in space.

Yang Liwei, the first Chinese astronaut sent into space, said during
the Community Party's 17th National Congress last week that his
colleagues in the space program have wondered about starting the
party's first branch in space. It would be possible, he said, if China
can develop a station large enough to hold three people -- the minimum
for starting a cell.

(Researchers Li Jie and Xu Tianxing contributed to this report.)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...07/10/24/AR200...

China only has to establish and hold onto the moon's L1, as all the
rest is an easy down-hill run. Whomever's fully in charge of the
moon's L1 is in charge of the moon and Earth. Willian Mook's SBLs
will make damn certain that it's well enough protected from anyone
thinking otherwise.

My LSE-CM/ISS is simply a much bigger and better Clarke Station that's
rather easily and efficiently tethered to the moon. China should not
have any problems with creating and sustaining my LSE-CM/ISS.
- Brad Guth -

On Oct 25, 11:10 am, Picadilly wrote:
On Oct 25, 11:06 am, Balsina Twyst wrote: Meanwhile, your White House war criminal's twin Middle East wars are

expected to tie up $2.4-trillion dollars over the next decade, money
that probably neither the Chinese, the Japanese, or the Indians would
so stupidly spend on doomed-to-fail military adventures.

True.

Not even counting the collateral damage or the million+ dead, we've
already blown a global worth of nearly $10 trillions since having
created the 9/11 fiasco to start with, so what's another $2.4 trillion
here or there?
- Brad Guth -

On Oct 25, 11:06 am, Balsina Twyst wrote:
China, Japan, and India are determined to be large players in space
technology and exploration. And they're heavily invested in an
undertaking they believe will dominate the 21st century.

Each is working against each other trying to reach the moon
independently, and most likely all three will get to the moon
successfully. Wouldn't it make more sense if they would get together
and work on the project together, and get three times the result? The
earth is not getting any bigger, but the world population is getting
much much bigger, and fast. We need to work together to find another
planet that would support humanity, or else we all die in this
contaminated planet.



China in January successfully shot-down a satellite target with a
missile, serving notice that the failed and foolhardy U.S. "Star Wars"
notwithstanding, China has a can-do attitude that could propel it to
super-powerdom in a few years.

Meanwhile, your White House war criminal's twin Middle East wars are
expected to tie up $2.4-trillion dollars over the next decade, money
that probably neither the Chinese, the Japanese, or the Indians would
so stupidly spend on doomed-to-fail military adventures.
--------------------------------
" Chinese Satellite Heading for Lunar Orbit Showcases Ambitious Space
Program"

By Edward Cody
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, October 25, 2007; A16

BEIJING, Oct. 24 -- China launched a satellite rocketing toward lunar
orbit Wednesday evening, the latest step in an ambitious national
program to send more men into space, build a space station and
eventually land Chinese astronauts on the moon.

The satellite, called Chang'e after a legendary Chinese goddess who
flew to the moon, was lifted into space atop a white-painted Long
March 3A rocket that blasted off at 6:05 p.m. from the Xichang Launch
Center in Sichuan province in central China. The China National Space
Administration said Chang'e was scheduled to enter a lunar orbit on
Nov. 5 and send back images and analyses of the moon's surface for
about a year.

The trouble-free liftoff, with flame and white smoke billowing out of
the rocket, was heralded by commentators and broadcast live on
government television, underlining the Communist Party's desire to
cultivate national pride in a growing list of accomplishments in
space. The launch took place just two days after a national Communist
Party congress acclaimed Hu Jintao for a second five-year term as
party leader, president and military chief.

"The launch shows our comprehensive state power," said Jiao Weixin, a
professor at Peking University's School of Earth and Space Sciences.
"It can help to improve our image in the world. Chinese would feel
excited and greatly encouraged by just having a Chinese Nobel Prize
winner, let alone having the chance to prove to the world our
capability to explore space."

Jiao noted that China, which first sent a man into space in 2003 and
repeated the exploit with a two-man team in 2005, still lags far
behind the United States and Russia in space exploration. Japan
launched a probe into lunar orbit for the first time on Oct. 5, and
India has a similar plan on the drawing board. But Jiao described
Wednesday's launch as a milestone for China's efforts, signifying that
Chinese engineers have the know-how to probe the moon.

"Chinese people will be encouraged by it," he said.

Li Hang, 24, who advises students seeking to study abroad, agreed, but
he expressed doubt that exploits in space would have an immediate
impact on the daily lives of China's 1.3 billion people. "However," he
added, "it definitely will have an impact on China's national defense
ability and the relationships between China and other countries."

In addition to serving as a rallying point for national pride, China's
50-year-old space exploration program has begun to return commercial
profits. Chinese rockets for a number of years have been launching
other countries' satellites at attractive rates. Last May, Chinese
technicians launched a Chinese-manufactured communications satellite
for Nigeria, marking the first time China had built a commercial
satellite and sent it into orbit on contract for another country.

Launch officials were definitely into the business spirit Wednesday.
They charged tourists a little over $100 for access to two viewing
platforms at the launch site, about 1,000 miles southwest of Beijing.

Although Chinese leaders emphasize that their goal is peaceful space
exploration in cooperation with other nations, the fast-paced and well-
funded program has raised fears it could also have military
applications. The military has been in charge of space exploration
since the program began. Troops successfully test-fired an anti-
satellite missile in January, destroying an out-of-date weather
satellite in what some analysts interpreted as a sign U.S. military
satellites could be vulnerable in case of a conflict in the Taiwan
Strait.

China has laid out plans to follow the Chang'e lunar approach with an
attempt to land a vessel on the moon and deploy a vehicle to rove its
surface within the next five years. According to the China National
Space Administration, if that experiment is successful, the following
step, over the subsequent five years, would be to send a ship to the
moon that could gather soil samples and return to Earth.

The goal of putting astronauts on the moon also has been much talked
about in China. Hu Shixiang, who was deputy commander of the manned
space flight program, said two years ago that China hopes to have men
on the moon by 2020 if the pace of funding is kept up. But the Chinese
government, which draws up its space exploration plans in five-year
increments, has avoided pinning itself down to a specific date.

Chinese space engineers have scheduled another manned vehicle launch,
including a spacewalk, for 2008. A government-endorsed blueprint also
calls for a rendezvous between two spacecraft and the construction of
a space laboratory in coming years.

China also is seeking to join the International Space Station program,
which includes the United States, Russia, Japan, Canada, Brazil and 11
European Space Agency countries, according to Li Xueyong, vice
minister of science and technology. Li said China is eager to
cooperate with other countries in space.

Yang Liwei, the first Chinese astronaut sent into space, said during
the Community Party's 17th National Congress last week that his
colleagues in the space program have wondered about starting the
party's first branch in space. It would be possible, he said, if China
can develop a station large enough to hold three people -- the minimum
for starting a cell.

(Researchers Li Jie and Xu Tianxing contributed to this report.)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...07/10/24/AR200...

If Japan, India, China and other countries in Asia can work together
on Earth, they will not be able to work on the Moon. The West have
been try to devide them to kill each other on Earth.

On Oct 25, 12:06 pm, Chen wrote:
If Japan, India, China and other countries in Asia can work together
on Earth, they will not be able to work on the Moon. The West have
been try to devide them to kill each other on Earth.

The moon is only the immediate destination. The real goal is to find
a planet with enough atmosphere to support life, and to design and
develop technologies for future space travels.

This is another reason why it is a good idea for Japan, India and
China to work together, to break the West monopoly on earth and set
future course for space explorations.

On Oct 25, 12:06 pm, Chen wrote:
If Japan, India, China and other countries in Asia can work together
on Earth, they will not be able to work on the Moon. The West have
been try to devide them to kill each other on Earth.

You mean those pesky Zion Yids have been trying out every dirty trick
in their Old Testament book, in order to keep every other nation at
war for one reason or another, and for the most part it has been
working exactly as planned ever since they got one of their own kind
put on a stick for a faith-based PR stunt, and later had Hitler as
their puppet (now they've got a new and improved puppet called GW
Bush).
- Brad Guth -

On Oct 25, 12:30 pm, rst0wxyz wrote:
On Oct 25, 12:06 pm, Chen wrote:

If Japan, India, China and other countries in Asia can work together
on Earth, they will not be able to work on the Moon. The West have
been try to devide them to kill each other on Earth.

The moon is only the immediate destination. The real goal is to find
a planet with enough atmosphere to support life, and to design and
develop technologies for future space travels.

This is another reason why it is a good idea for Japan, India and
China to work together, to break the West monopoly on earth and set
future course for space explorations.

There's actually unlimited raw and renewable energy on Venus, and
there's likely substantial mineral and raw element resources like
nowhere on Earth or our moon. The first to establish POOF City at
Venus L2 is in charge of most all such related interplanetary
business.
- Brad Guth -

On Oct 25, 2:12 pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Oct 25, 12:30 pm, rst0wxyz wrote:

On Oct 25, 12:06 pm, Chen wrote:

If Japan, India, China and other countries in Asia can work together
on Earth, they will not be able to work on the Moon. The West have
been try to devide them to kill each other on Earth.

The moon is only the immediate destination. The real goal is to find
a planet with enough atmosphere to support life, and to design and
develop technologies for future space travels.

This is another reason why it is a good idea for Japan, India and
China to work together, to break the West monopoly on earth and set
future course for space explorations.

There's actually unlimited raw and renewable energy on Venus, and

But Venus is hot, and probably no water. Nothing can grow in Venus.
The most likely liveable planet or moon may probably be some of
Jupiter's moons, Io or Europa and Jupiter can provide the heat to warm
up those surfaces. In order to go there, we must speed up our
spacecrafts to a quarter or half a million miles per hour. This will
take a lot of work as it is, and we must get started on it very soon.



there's likely substantial mineral and raw element resources like
nowhere on Earth or our moon. The first to establish POOF City at
Venus L2 is in charge of most all such related interplanetary
business.
- Brad Guth -