#111
|
|||
|
|||
mass is light.
Art Deco wrote: tomcat wrote: American wrote: tomcat wrote: Alan Anderson wrote: : "tomcat" : Einstein clearly -- and unquestionably -- stated that E = M C^2. : This : means that Pure Energy is equal to Mass times the Speed of Light : Squared. No, that's not what it means. It's not talking about "pure energy" or a moving mass. It's talking about the energy inherent in a given quantity of matter, without regard for velocity (or temperature, or altitude, or compression, etc.). An equation, any equation, is icy cold logic. They mean whatever a 'proper logical' interpretation says they mean. So, yes, E = M C^2 means "energy inherent in a given quantityof matter, without regard for velocity," but it also can -- properly -- be interpreted as meaning the E standing for Pure Energy at the relativistic velocity of Mass at C^2. This 'Pure Energy' however, should act as a limit to any possible observable (with instruments) anomaly caused by it's proximity. Whether or not it is a true limit on the an objects possible speed -- I don't know. It might be. tomcat My understanding is that matter "condensates" from the electro- magnetic field, so that its source is not the "ether" but light. This is a very speculative field at present. Some theories say it spontaneously appears out of nothing -- quantum foam and all that. The only thing I feel certain of in this regard is that everything is connected and ties together somehow. All your squishy feelings have accomplished is to demonstrate that you have no clue what quantum foam is. And neither does anyone else. It hasn't been 'discovered' yet, only theorized. You knew that, didn't you Art? In theory, quantum foam are spontaneously appearing bits of strings. And, sometimes, they disappear too. tomcat |
#112
|
|||
|
|||
mass is light.
American wrote: tomcat wrote: American wrote: tomcat wrote: Alan Anderson wrote: : "tomcat" : Einstein clearly -- and unquestionably -- stated that E = M C^2. This : means that Pure Energy is equal to Mass times the Speed of Light : Squared. No, that's not what it means. It's not talking about "pure energy" or a moving mass. It's talking about the energy inherent in a given quantity of matter, without regard for velocity (or temperature, or altitude, or compression, etc.). An equation, any equation, is icy cold logic. They mean whatever a 'proper logical' interpretation says they mean. So, yes, E = M C^2 means "energy inherent in a given quantityof matter, without regard for velocity," but it also can -- properly -- be interpreted as meaning the E standing for Pure Energy at the relativistic velocity of Mass at C^2. This 'Pure Energy' however, should act as a limit to any possible observable (with instruments) anomaly caused by it's proximity. Whether or not it is a true limit on the an objects possible speed -- I don't know. It might be. tomcat My understanding is that matter "condensates" from the electro- magnetic field, so that its source is not the "ether" but light. This is a very speculative field at present. Some theories say it spontaneously appears out of nothing -- quantum foam and all that. The only thing I feel certain of in this regard is that everything is connected and ties together somehow. Ergo, Einstein's formula: E = mc**2. Fundamentally, though, there is a problem with equating mass, or more exactly mass- energy, with electromagnetic energy, because rather than having ALL mass the result of things like gamma rays producing electron- positron pairs, there is a secondary phase-superposition of Dark Energy, or virtual "Dirac Sea" of latent energy. Therefore, the word "electromagnetic" should not be used so much as "electric". A more appropriate definition of Einstein's Energy law would be: E = m_e(c**2) = lambda_e(W_k)(W_x) = e(W_x), where lambda_e represents the wavelength of the electron, W_k represents the wave intrinsic to the particle (or to the linear momentum carried by the massfree particle, equal (usu.) to de Broglie's pilot or GROUP WAVE, with W_x representing the particle or "extrinsic" to momentum that is analogous to de Broglie's PHASE WAVE, and "e" representing the charge of the electron. Thus the Einstein equation offers only the electromagnetic por- tion of mass-energy, and must be taken into consideration with the fine structure of the mass-energy, as the fine structure relates to a condensate of the ether, and not of the electromagnetic field. Quote: " mass-energy, as the fine structure relates to a condensate of the ether . . ." You seem to be saying something different here, however, than you did above. Here is a quote from what you said above: Quote: " My understanding is that matter "condensates" from the electro-magnetic field, so that its source is not the "ether" but light." Are you strictly referencing the Einstein position in the first quote? The field of study which relates to the idea of an *ultimately* massless ether is scalar electromagnetics. The electron represents a spherical standing wave with an "IN" portion and an "OUT" portion. Each of their amplitudes are INFINITE at the center of the spherical wave, but when BOTH OPPOSITES COMBINE, form a STANDING WAVE OF FINITE AMPLITUDE. The amplitude of this continuous wave is a SCALAR, and not an ELECTROMAGNETIC VECTOR. Thus the speed of light is not so much a barrier as it is a speed of energy exchange. Standing waves are fascinating. Energy canceled out by form. Where does the energy go when the form cancels out? Tesla liked to experiment with standing waves. A practical example would be two hi-fi speakers, each out of phase such that the one cancels the other's wave. If we assume that the music being played was 'vibrating' loud then where does all that energy go when we hear nothing? I suspect that Einstein making the speed of light his theoretical maximum meant that nothing faster than light could be observed. In short, space-time starts to warp with relativistic velocities, because space-time is our observational field, it is what affects us. Thus the speed of light is not so much a barrier as it is a 'warping' of our matter-energy sensible position relative to the 'relativistic' object. tomcat tomcat said: My understanding is that matter "condensates" from the electro- magnetic field, so that its source is not the "ether" but light. Are you strictly referencing the Einstein position in the first quote? No. Einstein did not include the relationships for a "Lorentz invariant" four-space Heisenberg equation of motion into his pro-Machian, i.e., Einstein/Minkowski worldspace. So I guess I really meant to say that matter condensates from the *electric* field rather than *electromagnetic*. This implies that in the unified field theory, space can exist by itself (tachyonic four-space) and time can also exist by itself (Dark Energy being the canonical conjugate of TIME), so relativistic theory should ONLY predict the Lorentz invariant results, while ALL VECTOR BOSONS deliver the full amount of angular momentum to different electrons, but to and from different *translatable* Riemannian metric. Some say mass just appears in the form of Higgs Bosons. This is a highly theoretical area. You state: "So I guess I really meant to say that matter condensates from the *electric* field rather than *electromagnetic*." Are you maintaining that matter comes from electrons. There is a theory that electrons represent the ultimate particle. This is closely allied to the theory that photons are the ultimate particle, because electrons and photons seem to follow each other around. tomcat |
#113
|
|||
|
|||
mass is light.
tomcat wrote:
Art Deco wrote: tomcat wrote: American wrote: tomcat wrote: Alan Anderson wrote: : "tomcat" : Einstein clearly -- and unquestionably -- stated that E = M C^2. : This : means that Pure Energy is equal to Mass times the Speed of Light : Squared. No, that's not what it means. It's not talking about "pure energy" or a moving mass. It's talking about the energy inherent in a given quantity of matter, without regard for velocity (or temperature, or altitude, or compression, etc.). An equation, any equation, is icy cold logic. They mean whatever a 'proper logical' interpretation says they mean. So, yes, E = M C^2 means "energy inherent in a given quantityof matter, without regard for velocity," but it also can -- properly -- be interpreted as meaning the E standing for Pure Energy at the relativistic velocity of Mass at C^2. This 'Pure Energy' however, should act as a limit to any possible observable (with instruments) anomaly caused by it's proximity. Whether or not it is a true limit on the an objects possible speed -- I don't know. It might be. tomcat My understanding is that matter "condensates" from the electro- magnetic field, so that its source is not the "ether" but light. This is a very speculative field at present. Some theories say it spontaneously appears out of nothing -- quantum foam and all that. The only thing I feel certain of in this regard is that everything is connected and ties together somehow. All your squishy feelings have accomplished is to demonstrate that you have no clue what quantum foam is. And neither does anyone else. It hasn't been 'discovered' yet, only theorized. You knew that, didn't you Art? In theory, quantum foam are spontaneously appearing bits of strings. And, sometimes, they disappear too. Once again, you demonstrate your abject ignorance of subjects you pretend to know something about. Please continue, don't let me stop you. tomcat -- COOSN-266-06-39716 Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005 Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion", as designated by Brad Guth "And without accurate measuring techniques, how can they even *call* quantum theory a "scientific" one? How can it possibly be referred to as a "fundamental branch of physics"?" -- Painsnuh the Lamer "Well, orientals moved to the U.S. and did amazingly well on their own, and the races are related (brown)." -- "Honest" John pontificates on racial purity "Significant new ideas have rarely come from the ranks of the establishment." -- Double-A on technology development |
#114
|
|||
|
|||
mass is light.
Art Deco wrote: tomcat wrote: Art Deco wrote: tomcat wrote: American wrote: tomcat wrote: Alan Anderson wrote: : "tomcat" : Einstein clearly -- and unquestionably -- stated that E = M C^2. : This : means that Pure Energy is equal to Mass times the Speed of Light : Squared. No, that's not what it means. It's not talking about "pure energy" or a moving mass. It's talking about the energy inherent in a given quantity of matter, without regard for velocity (or temperature, or altitude, or compression, etc.). An equation, any equation, is icy cold logic. They mean whatever a 'proper logical' interpretation says they mean. So, yes, E = M C^2 means "energy inherent in a given quantityof matter, without regard for velocity," but it also can -- properly -- be interpreted as meaning the E standing for Pure Energy at the relativistic velocity of Mass at C^2. This 'Pure Energy' however, should act as a limit to any possible observable (with instruments) anomaly caused by it's proximity. Whether or not it is a true limit on the an objects possible speed -- I don't know. It might be. tomcat My understanding is that matter "condensates" from the electro- magnetic field, so that its source is not the "ether" but light. This is a very speculative field at present. Some theories say it spontaneously appears out of nothing -- quantum foam and all that. The only thing I feel certain of in this regard is that everything is connected and ties together somehow. All your squishy feelings have accomplished is to demonstrate that you have no clue what quantum foam is. And neither does anyone else. It hasn't been 'discovered' yet, only theorized. You knew that, didn't you Art? In theory, quantum foam are spontaneously appearing bits of strings. And, sometimes, they disappear too. Once again, you demonstrate your abject ignorance of subjects you pretend to know something about. Please continue, don't let me stop you. tomcat -- COOSN-266-06-39716 Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005 Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion", as designated by Brad Guth "And without accurate measuring techniques, how can they even *call* quantum theory a "scientific" one? How can it possibly be referred to as a "fundamental branch of physics"?" -- Painsnuh the Lamer "Well, orientals moved to the U.S. and did amazingly well on their own, and the races are related (brown)." -- "Honest" John pontificates on racial purity "Significant new ideas have rarely come from the ranks of the establishment." -- Double-A on technology development Tomcat said: Some say mass just appears in the form of Higgs Bosons. This is a highly theoretical area. For the physics to work for bosons, I'd rather choose a closed string network, or torus, because the "closed string tachyon" includes a 26 dimensional model for bosonic string theory. Are you maintaining that matter comes from electrons. There is a theory that electrons represent the ultimate particle. This is closely allied to the theory that photons are the ultimate particle, because electrons and photons seem to follow each other around. Actually, I was inadvertantly choosing electrons and positrons as one of *two* types of massbound particles (that also include protons and antiprotons). The reason I prefer the electron, is that the rotational structure for the inertial mass that includes gravitons acting on a toroidal energy flux - a favorite representation in the "torus of time" scenario. The torus is a genus 2 "mappable surface" that uses "holomorphic functions" such as the SU(1) Kahler metric (invariant). The ether therefore can act as a crystal, assimilating the near-field lattice, in which gravitons propogate along "edges" of the lattice at over 400 times the speed of light. Back to the topic of "mass is light"; it convenes upon an energy exchange that is electronic/positronic/photonic. Additional transient photonic "standing waves" are gen- erated when the phase conjugate pumping of "reflection waves" increase photonic emission, as well as reabsorp- tion, with a resulting increase in the mass of the elec- tron auger "fringefield". I would like to patent a device that uses this concept. There are probably a few other people interested in the same thing. You mentioned a group of people at the Univ. of Rochester in New York (post #161) who are exploring "backward pulsed" lightwaves. These would be similar to phase-conjugate pumped "reflection waves", except that they are confined in the fiber optic. I don't know how they would be useful from a propulsion standpoint, but at least the "idea" is there. |
#115
|
|||
|
|||
mass is light.
American wrote: Tomcat said: Some say mass just appears in the form of Higgs Bosons. This is a highly theoretical area. For the physics to work for bosons, I'd rather choose a closed string network, or torus, because the "closed string tachyon" includes a 26 dimensional model for bosonic string theory. I suspect there my be more dimensions than just 10, 12, 16, or whatever. I further suspect that the world is weird, even weirder than we can imagine. And the prize for unraveling it's secrets is power, almost unlimited . . . power. Are you maintaining that matter comes from electrons. There is a theory that electrons represent the ultimate particle. This is closely allied to the theory that photons are the ultimate particle, because electrons and photons seem to follow each other around. Actually, I was inadvertantly choosing electrons and positrons as one of *two* types of massbound particles (that also include protons and antiprotons). The reason I prefer the electron, is that the rotational structure for the inertial mass that includes gravitons acting on a toroidal energy flux - a favorite representation in the "torus of time" scenario. The torus is a genus 2 "mappable surface" that uses "holomorphic functions" such as the SU(1) Kahler metric (invariant). The ether therefore can act as a crystal, assimilating the near-field lattice, in which gravitons propogate along "edges" of the lattice at over 400 times the speed of light. That there exists a fluid luminescent aether is, of course, theoretical at present. But it would explain a lot. That such an aether would create wave functions is almost inevitable, thus helping to explain the 'wave theory' of light and giving insight into the dual wave and particle phenomena. The existence of 'gravitons' is, I believe, also theoretical. Once isolated, however, such particles would give mankind full blown anti-gravity and might prove to be easily generated much as light is with a light bulb. If, indeed, gravitons travel at "400 times the speed of light," that would explain the difficulty in isolating them for study. They would be in particles in 'warp bubbles'. Back to the topic of "mass is light"; it convenes upon an energy exchange that is electronic/positronic/photonic. Additional transient photonic "standing waves" are gen- erated when the phase conjugate pumping of "reflection waves" increase photonic emission, as well as reabsorp- tion, with a resulting increase in the mass of the elec- tron auger "fringefield". Be careful you don't 'shatter' the aether crystal. It would create havoc beyond the Pentagon's wildest imagination. I would like to patent a device that uses this concept. There are probably a few other people interested in the same thing. You mentioned a group of people at the Univ. of Rochester in New York (post #161) who are exploring "backward pulsed" lightwaves. These would be similar to phase-conjugate pumped "reflection waves", except that they are confined in the fiber optic. I don't know how they would be useful from a propulsion standpoint, but at least the "idea" is there. Once we can become more certain of these highly 'theoretical' particles and properties, then we can unleash their power, easily driving starships well past light into distant regions and times. String 'dimensional control' will enable easily built devices that will do the macro-impossible. Science will appear more and more like smoke and mirrors. We will become interdimensional wizards. tomcat |
#116
|
|||
|
|||
mass is light.
tomcat wrote: American wrote: Tomcat said: Some say mass just appears in the form of Higgs Bosons. This is a highly theoretical area. For the physics to work for bosons, I'd rather choose a closed string network, or torus, because the "closed string tachyon" includes a 26 dimensional model for bosonic string theory. I suspect there my be more dimensions than just 10, 12, 16, or whatever. I further suspect that the world is weird, even weirder than we can imagine. And the prize for unraveling it's secrets is power, almost unlimited . . . power. Are you maintaining that matter comes from electrons. There is a theory that electrons represent the ultimate particle. This is closely allied to the theory that photons are the ultimate particle, because electrons and photons seem to follow each other around. Actually, I was inadvertantly choosing electrons and positrons as one of *two* types of massbound particles (that also include protons and antiprotons). The reason I prefer the electron, is that the rotational structure for the inertial mass that includes gravitons acting on a toroidal energy flux - a favorite representation in the "torus of time" scenario. The torus is a genus 2 "mappable surface" that uses "holomorphic functions" such as the SU(1) Kahler metric (invariant). The ether therefore can act as a crystal, assimilating the near-field lattice, in which gravitons propogate along "edges" of the lattice at over 400 times the speed of light. That there exists a fluid luminescent aether is, of course, theoretical at present. But it would explain a lot. That such an aether would create wave functions is almost inevitable, thus helping to explain the 'wave theory' of light and giving insight into the dual wave and particle phenomena. The existence of 'gravitons' is, I believe, also theoretical. Once isolated, however, such particles would give mankind full blown anti-gravity and might prove to be easily generated much as light is with a light bulb. If, indeed, gravitons travel at "400 times the speed of light," that would explain the difficulty in isolating them for study. They would be in particles in 'warp bubbles'. Back to the topic of "mass is light"; it convenes upon an energy exchange that is electronic/positronic/photonic. Additional transient photonic "standing waves" are gen- erated when the phase conjugate pumping of "reflection waves" increase photonic emission, as well as reabsorp- tion, with a resulting increase in the mass of the elec- tron auger "fringefield". Be careful you don't 'shatter' the aether crystal. It would create havoc beyond the Pentagon's wildest imagination. I would like to patent a device that uses this concept. There are probably a few other people interested in the same thing. You mentioned a group of people at the Univ. of Rochester in New York (post #161) who are exploring "backward pulsed" lightwaves. These would be similar to phase-conjugate pumped "reflection waves", except that they are confined in the fiber optic. I don't know how they would be useful from a propulsion standpoint, but at least the "idea" is there. Once we can become more certain of these highly 'theoretical' particles and properties, then we can unleash their power, easily driving starships well past light into distant regions and times. String 'dimensional control' will enable easily built devices that will do the macro-impossible. Science will appear more and more like smoke and mirrors. We will become interdimensional wizards. tomcat Tomcat wrote: Be careful you don't 'shatter' the aether crystal. It would create havoc beyond the Pentagon's wildest imagination. Actually, the ether "crystal" would be a highly " quadru- polarized member of the Periodic table of the elements. The reason we, as experimenters, are "in" the crystal is because the decompressed g-field would span, according to some initial calculations, about 71.1meters. The boundary between ionizing and non-ionizing opto- thermal radiation exists at 46.6 nanometers = 4.66 ang- stroms = absolute limit of harmful radiation, with a frequency of 6400 THz. Therefore, a usefully pulsed probe beam radiation is practically situated near to this limit. This means a practical source of propulsion could be developed using quadrupolarized crystals. |
#117
|
|||
|
|||
mass is light.
American wrote: tomcat wrote: American wrote: Tomcat said: Some say mass just appears in the form of Higgs Bosons. This is a highly theoretical area. For the physics to work for bosons, I'd rather choose a closed string network, or torus, because the "closed string tachyon" includes a 26 dimensional model for bosonic string theory. I suspect there my be more dimensions than just 10, 12, 16, or whatever. I further suspect that the world is weird, even weirder than we can imagine. And the prize for unraveling it's secrets is power, almost unlimited . . . power. Are you maintaining that matter comes from electrons. There is a theory that electrons represent the ultimate particle. This is closely allied to the theory that photons are the ultimate particle, because electrons and photons seem to follow each other around. Actually, I was inadvertantly choosing electrons and positrons as one of *two* types of massbound particles (that also include protons and antiprotons). The reason I prefer the electron, is that the rotational structure for the inertial mass that includes gravitons acting on a toroidal energy flux - a favorite representation in the "torus of time" scenario. The torus is a genus 2 "mappable surface" that uses "holomorphic functions" such as the SU(1) Kahler metric (invariant). The ether therefore can act as a crystal, assimilating the near-field lattice, in which gravitons propogate along "edges" of the lattice at over 400 times the speed of light. That there exists a fluid luminescent aether is, of course, theoretical at present. But it would explain a lot. That such an aether would create wave functions is almost inevitable, thus helping to explain the 'wave theory' of light and giving insight into the dual wave and particle phenomena. The existence of 'gravitons' is, I believe, also theoretical. Once isolated, however, such particles would give mankind full blown anti-gravity and might prove to be easily generated much as light is with a light bulb. If, indeed, gravitons travel at "400 times the speed of light," that would explain the difficulty in isolating them for study. They would be in particles in 'warp bubbles'. Back to the topic of "mass is light"; it convenes upon an energy exchange that is electronic/positronic/photonic. Additional transient photonic "standing waves" are gen- erated when the phase conjugate pumping of "reflection waves" increase photonic emission, as well as reabsorp- tion, with a resulting increase in the mass of the elec- tron auger "fringefield". Be careful you don't 'shatter' the aether crystal. It would create havoc beyond the Pentagon's wildest imagination. I would like to patent a device that uses this concept. There are probably a few other people interested in the same thing. You mentioned a group of people at the Univ. of Rochester in New York (post #161) who are exploring "backward pulsed" lightwaves. These would be similar to phase-conjugate pumped "reflection waves", except that they are confined in the fiber optic. I don't know how they would be useful from a propulsion standpoint, but at least the "idea" is there. Once we can become more certain of these highly 'theoretical' particles and properties, then we can unleash their power, easily driving starships well past light into distant regions and times. String 'dimensional control' will enable easily built devices that will do the macro-impossible. Science will appear more and more like smoke and mirrors. We will become interdimensional wizards. tomcat Tomcat wrote: Be careful you don't 'shatter' the aether crystal. It would create havoc beyond the Pentagon's wildest imagination. Actually, the ether "crystal" would be a highly " quadru- polarized member of the Periodic table of the elements. The reason we, as experimenters, are "in" the crystal is because the decompressed g-field would span, according to some initial calculations, about 71.1meters. The boundary between ionizing and non-ionizing opto- thermal radiation exists at 46.6 nanometers = 4.66 ang- stroms = absolute limit of harmful radiation, with a frequency of 6400 THz. Therefore, a usefully pulsed probe beam radiation is practically situated near to this limit. This means a practical source of propulsion could be developed using quadrupolarized crystals. Nikola Tesla like to experiment with vibrational frequencies. He nearly created an earthquake using a small device that simply "thumped" away in a very regular fashion tuned to the vibrational frequency of dirt, stone, and concrete. Just what your 'probe beam' might do, is open to question. But it might do more than 'just' start an earthquake. This discussion, however, has gone from the theorectical to a 'house of cards' because we are dealing with possibilities even when talking about aether and gravitons. To posit on top of these crystal energies at 6400 Thz is puting the last card on top. It may all fall down! But it is down this 'path' that science will go and all discoveries, commendations, and money will flow therewith. But we are in agreement, frequencies and their harmonics, their patterns and interference, will accomplish more than just light a desktop as with light bulbs. Lasers exist. They have different frequencies. Intermingle those frequencies, carefully modulating them for given materials and enormous power can be unleashed both for destruction and . . . creation. And, with sufficient experimentation, a block of steel suddenly levitates, well, so much the better. tomcat |
#118
|
|||
|
|||
mass is light.
tomcat wrote: American wrote: tomcat wrote: American wrote: Tomcat said: Some say mass just appears in the form of Higgs Bosons. This is a highly theoretical area. For the physics to work for bosons, I'd rather choose a closed string network, or torus, because the "closed string tachyon" includes a 26 dimensional model for bosonic string theory. I suspect there my be more dimensions than just 10, 12, 16, or whatever. I further suspect that the world is weird, even weirder than we can imagine. And the prize for unraveling it's secrets is power, almost unlimited . . . power. Are you maintaining that matter comes from electrons. There is a theory that electrons represent the ultimate particle. This is closely allied to the theory that photons are the ultimate particle, because electrons and photons seem to follow each other around. Actually, I was inadvertantly choosing electrons and positrons as one of *two* types of massbound particles (that also include protons and antiprotons). The reason I prefer the electron, is that the rotational structure for the inertial mass that includes gravitons acting on a toroidal energy flux - a favorite representation in the "torus of time" scenario. The torus is a genus 2 "mappable surface" that uses "holomorphic functions" such as the SU(1) Kahler metric (invariant). The ether therefore can act as a crystal, assimilating the near-field lattice, in which gravitons propogate along "edges" of the lattice at over 400 times the speed of light. That there exists a fluid luminescent aether is, of course, theoretical at present. But it would explain a lot. That such an aether would create wave functions is almost inevitable, thus helping to explain the 'wave theory' of light and giving insight into the dual wave and particle phenomena. The existence of 'gravitons' is, I believe, also theoretical. Once isolated, however, such particles would give mankind full blown anti-gravity and might prove to be easily generated much as light is with a light bulb. If, indeed, gravitons travel at "400 times the speed of light," that would explain the difficulty in isolating them for study. They would be in particles in 'warp bubbles'. Back to the topic of "mass is light"; it convenes upon an energy exchange that is electronic/positronic/photonic. Additional transient photonic "standing waves" are gen- erated when the phase conjugate pumping of "reflection waves" increase photonic emission, as well as reabsorp- tion, with a resulting increase in the mass of the elec- tron auger "fringefield". Be careful you don't 'shatter' the aether crystal. It would create havoc beyond the Pentagon's wildest imagination. I would like to patent a device that uses this concept. There are probably a few other people interested in the same thing. You mentioned a group of people at the Univ. of Rochester in New York (post #161) who are exploring "backward pulsed" lightwaves. These would be similar to phase-conjugate pumped "reflection waves", except that they are confined in the fiber optic. I don't know how they would be useful from a propulsion standpoint, but at least the "idea" is there. Once we can become more certain of these highly 'theoretical' particles and properties, then we can unleash their power, easily driving starships well past light into distant regions and times. String 'dimensional control' will enable easily built devices that will do the macro-impossible. Science will appear more and more like smoke and mirrors. We will become interdimensional wizards. tomcat Tomcat wrote: Be careful you don't 'shatter' the aether crystal. It would create havoc beyond the Pentagon's wildest imagination. Actually, the ether "crystal" would be a highly " quadru- polarized member of the Periodic table of the elements. The reason we, as experimenters, are "in" the crystal is because the decompressed g-field would span, according to some initial calculations, about 71.1meters. The boundary between ionizing and non-ionizing opto- thermal radiation exists at 46.6 nanometers = 4.66 ang- stroms = absolute limit of harmful radiation, with a frequency of 6400 THz. Therefore, a usefully pulsed probe beam radiation is practically situated near to this limit. This means a practical source of propulsion could be developed using quadrupolarized crystals. Nikola Tesla like to experiment with vibrational frequencies. He nearly created an earthquake using a small device that simply "thumped" away in a very regular fashion tuned to the vibrational frequency of dirt, stone, and concrete. Just what your 'probe beam' might do, is open to question. But it might do more than 'just' start an earthquake. This discussion, however, has gone from the theorectical to a 'house of cards' because we are dealing with possibilities even when talking about aether and gravitons. To posit on top of these crystal energies at 6400 Thz is puting the last card on top. It may all fall down! But it is down this 'path' that science will go and all discoveries, commendations, and money will flow therewith. But we are in agreement, frequencies and their harmonics, their patterns and interference, will accomplish more than just light a desktop as with light bulbs. Lasers exist. They have different frequencies. Intermingle those frequencies, carefully modulating them for given materials and enormous power can be unleashed both for destruction and . . . creation. And, with sufficient experimentation, a block of steel suddenly levitates, well, so much the better. tomcat Don't forget, there is a "relaxation time" for the crystal to return to its normal state. This time period is far greater than even a few hundred Terahertz pulses in length. The absorbed and emitted auger electron will depend upon extended Femtosecond (10**-15 sec) pulsing (up to 1000 pulses in the THz range of the probe beam so that ionic transfer occurs for the neutral atom for up to +6 ions for the single crystal. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguisable from magic. |
#119
|
|||
|
|||
mass is light.
tomcat wrote:
Once we can become more certain of these highly 'theoretical' particles and properties, then we can unleash their power, easily driving starships well past light into distant regions and times. String 'dimensional control' will enable easily built devices that will do the macro-impossible. Science will appear more and more like smoke and mirrors. We will become interdimensional wizards. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah -- COOSN-266-06-39716 Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005 Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion", as designated by Brad Guth "And without accurate measuring techniques, how can they even *call* quantum theory a "scientific" one? How can it possibly be referred to as a "fundamental branch of physics"?" -- Painsnuh the Lamer "Well, orientals moved to the U.S. and did amazingly well on their own, and the races are related (brown)." -- "Honest" John pontificates on racial purity "Significant new ideas have rarely come from the ranks of the establishment." -- Double-A on technology development |
#120
|
|||
|
|||
mass is light.
tomcat wrote:
Nikola Tesla like to experiment with vibrational frequencies. He nearly created an earthquake using a small device that simply "thumped" away in a very regular fashion tuned to the vibrational frequency of dirt, stone, and concrete. Teh Way of Teh Pseudoscience Ko0k: Invoke Tesla at every opportunity. -- COOSN-266-06-39716 Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005 Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion", as designated by Brad Guth "And without accurate measuring techniques, how can they even *call* quantum theory a "scientific" one? How can it possibly be referred to as a "fundamental branch of physics"?" -- Painsnuh the Lamer "Well, orientals moved to the U.S. and did amazingly well on their own, and the races are related (brown)." -- "Honest" John pontificates on racial purity "Significant new ideas have rarely come from the ranks of the establishment." -- Double-A on technology development |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
[sci.astro] Galaxies (Astronomy Frequently Asked Questions) (8/9) | [email protected] | Astronomy Misc | 0 | May 3rd 06 12:35 PM |
[sci.astro] Stars (Astronomy Frequently Asked Questions) (7/9) | [email protected] | Astronomy Misc | 0 | May 3rd 06 12:35 PM |
UFO Activities from Biblical Times | Kazmer Ujvarosy | Astronomy Misc | 0 | December 25th 03 05:21 AM |
Electric Gravity&Instantaneous Light | ralph sansbury | Astronomy Misc | 8 | August 31st 03 02:53 AM |