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  #41  
Old January 22nd 08, 10:40 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,rec.photo.digital
John Navas
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Default Has NASA's MESSENGER gone color blind?

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:37:32 -0600, Pat Flannery
wrote in :

John Navas wrote:
And (more critically) people time. But we love our conspiracy theories,
no matter how silly or unfounded. I hear Messenger mission control is
in Area 51, controlled by aliens.


Okay...everybody ready?
The first color image:
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/...2&image_id=132
Like I said... this isn't a very exciting planet to look at in color.


Clearly a fake. There isn't actually a working camera on board, and the
satellite never actually made it out of Earth orbit. The aliens are
just unfamiliar with Photoshop,.

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  #42  
Old January 22nd 08, 10:45 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.skeptic,sci.op-research,rec.photo.digital
Pat Flannery
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Default Has NASA's MESSENGER gone color blind?



robert casey wrote:


The imagers on space probes are usually designed for scientific
purposes and not generating eye candy.


Don't discount "eye candy" for the public, aka taxpayers.



The three-filter color approach movie to the planet was done
specifically for public consumption by NASA.
This is probably a frame from it:
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/...2&image_id=132

Pat
  #43  
Old January 22nd 08, 10:50 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.skeptic,sci.op-research,rec.photo.digital
John Navas
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:36:32 -0500, robert casey
wrote in :

The imagers on space probes are usually designed for scientific purposes
and not generating eye candy.


Don't discount "eye candy" for the public, aka taxpayers.


NASA doesn't -- see the websites and many images released to the public.

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  #44  
Old January 23rd 08, 12:47 AM posted to sci.space.history, sci.space.policy, sci.skeptic, sci.op-research,rec.photo.digital
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Default Has NASA's MESSENGER gone color blind?

On Jan 22, 2:45 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
robert casey wrote:

The imagers on space probes are usually designed for scientific
purposes and not generating eye candy.


Don't discount "eye candy" for the public, aka taxpayers.


The three-filter color approach movie to the planet was done
specifically for public consumption by NASA.
This is probably a frame from it:http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/....php?gallery_i...

Pat


Thanks, Pat, as that's a whole lot better. However too bad their
image DR is still so limited.

PhotoShop image adjustments: Hue Saturation
EDIT = MASTER
HUE = 0
SATURATION = +75
LIGHTNESS = -5

enlarge image: RESAMPLE = 2X (2048 X 2048)

filter image: UNSHARP MASK = 100%
RADIUS = 2
THRESHOLD = 4

filter: SHARPEN (once)

There's a little more PhotoShop work if you'd like to see the
atmosphere. Of course the raw image would have been so much better if
we were given the full DR worth pixel data to work with.
- Brad Guth
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Old January 23rd 08, 01:44 AM posted to sci.space.history, sci.space.policy, sci.skeptic, sci.op-research,rec.photo.digital
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Default Has NASA's MESSENGER gone color blind?

On Jan 22, 2:45 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
robert casey wrote:

The imagers on space probes are usually designed for scientific
purposes and not generating eye candy.


Don't discount "eye candy" for the public, aka taxpayers.


The three-filter color approach movie to the planet was done
specifically for public consumption by NASA.
This is probably a frame from it:


http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/...2&image_id=132


Thanks, Pat, as that's a whole lot better. However too bad their
image DR(dynamic range) is still so limited.

PhotoShop: c1000_700_430.png @2X along with more color
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/...00_700_430.png

Embedded: ColorMatch RGB (use the embedded profile)

Image Adjustments: Hue Saturation
EDIT = MASTER
HUE = 0
SATURATION = +75
LIGHTNESS = -5

Image Size: RESAMPLE = 2X (2048 X 2048)

Filter Image: UNSHARP MASK = 100%
RADIUS = 2
THRESHOLD = 4
Filter: SHARPEN (once)

There's a little more PhotoShop work if you'd like to see the
atmosphere. Of course the raw image would have been so much better if
we were given the full DR worth pixel data to work with.

Mercury atmosphe c1000_700_430.png @1X
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/...00_700_430.png

PhotoShop: Replace Color
FUZZINESS: 200
HUE: 0
SATURATION: +100
LIGHTNESS: +10 up to +50

- Brad Guth
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Old January 23rd 08, 01:47 AM posted to sci.space.history, sci.space.policy, sci.skeptic, sci.op-research,rec.photo.digital
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Default Has NASA's MESSENGER gone color blind?

On Jan 22, 2:50 pm, John Navas wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:36:32 -0500, robert casey
wrote in :

The imagers on space probes are usually designed for scientific purposes
and not generating eye candy.


Don't discount "eye candy" for the public, aka taxpayers.


NASA doesn't -- see the websites and many images released to the public.


I agree, that our NASA is pretty much all about using science hype and
"eye candy" infomercials.
- Brad Guth
  #47  
Old January 23rd 08, 01:09 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,rec.photo.digital
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Default Has NASA's MESSENGER gone color blind?

On 2008-01-22, Pat Flannery wrote:


John Navas wrote:
And (more critically) people time. But we love our conspiracy theories,
no matter how silly or unfounded. I hear Messenger mission control is
in Area 51, controlled by aliens.


Okay...everybody ready?
The first color image:
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/...2&image_id=132
Like I said... this isn't a very exciting planet to look at in color.


I don't know; that blue crater right in the middle of frame looks quite
interesting.

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Gateshead, UK land where the soap won't lather?
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  #48  
Old January 23rd 08, 03:52 PM posted to sci.space.history, sci.space.policy, rec.photo.digital
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On Jan 23, 5:09 am, Chris Savage
wrote:
On 2008-01-22, Pat Flannery wrote:


John Navas wrote:
And (more critically) people time. But we love our conspiracy theories,
no matter how silly or unfounded. I hear Messenger mission control is
in Area 51, controlled by aliens.


Okay...everybody ready?
The first color image:
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/....php?gallery_i...
Like I said... this isn't a very exciting planet to look at in color.


I don't know; that blue crater right in the middle of frame looks quite
interesting.
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Chris Savage Kiss me. Or would you rather live in a
Gateshead, UK land where the soap won't lather?
- Billy Bragg


If you have most any kind of photographic enhancement software, you
can do this extremely pastel image one better.

This is certainly a whole lot better science worthy look-see at
Mercury. However, too bad their extremely pastel image of such
pathetic DR(dynamic range) is still so contrast or depth of hue
limited. Remember the albedo of 0.12 is getting this moon like orb
nearly as dark as coal.

http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/...00_700_430.png

PhotoShop: c1000_700_430.png
* Embedded: ColorMatch RGB ("use the embedded profile")

Image Adjustments: Hue Saturation
EDIT: MASTER
HUE: 0
SATURATION: +75
LIGHTNESS: -5

Image Size: RESAMPLE 2X (2048 X 2048)
Filter Image: UNSHARP MASK = 100%
RADIUS: 2
THRESHOLD: 4
Filter: SHARPEN (once)

There's a little more PhotoShop work if you'd like to see those
atmospheric related artifacts. Of course the raw image itself would
have been so much better off if we were ever given the full DR worth
of pixel data to work with.

Mercury atmosphe c1000_700_430.png @1X or 2X
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/...00_700_430.png

PhotoShop: Replace Color
FUZZINESS: 200
HUE: 0
SATURATION: +100
LIGHTNESS: +10 up to +50

- Brad Guth


  #49  
Old January 23rd 08, 04:15 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,rec.photo.digital
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Default Has NASA's MESSENGER gone color blind?


"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
...
Okay...everybody ready?
The first color image:
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/...2&image_id=132
Like I said... this isn't a very exciting planet to look at in color.


True, but there are grays, browns, and even a bit of bluish looking gray in
there.

Jeff
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A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein


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Old January 23rd 08, 05:42 PM posted to sci.space.history, sci.space.policy, rec.photo.digital
BradGuth
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Default Has NASA's MESSENGER gone color blind?

On Jan 23, 8:15 am, "Jeff Findley"
wrote:
"Pat Flannery" wrote in message

...

Okay...everybody ready?
The first color image:
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/....php?gallery_i...
Like I said... this isn't a very exciting planet to look at in color.


True, but there are grays, browns, and even a bit of bluish looking gray in
there.

Jeff


Even in a very pastel kind of way, this is certainly a whole lot
better science worthy look-see at Mercury. However, too bad their
extremely pastel image of such pathetic DR(dynamic range) is still so
contrast impaired or depth of hue saturation limited. Remember the
albedo of 0.12 is getting this moon like orb nearly as dark as coal.

http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/...00_700_430.png

PhotoShop: c1000_700_430.png
· Embedded: ColorMatch RGB ("use the embedded profile")

Image Adjustments: Hue Saturation
EDIT: MASTER
HUE: 0
SATURATION: +75
LIGHTNESS: -5

Image Size: RESAMPLE 2X (2048 X 2048)

Filter Image: UNSHARP MASK = 100%
RADIUS: 2
THRESHOLD: 4
Filter: SHARPEN (once)

There's a little more PhotoShop work if you'd like to see those
atmospheric related artifacts. Of course the raw image itself would
have been so much better off if we were ever given the full DR worth
of pixel data to work with.

Mercury atmosphe c1000_700_430.png @1X or 2X
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/...00_700_430.png

PhotoShop: Replace Color
FUZZINESS: 200
HUE: 0
SATURATION: +100
LIGHTNESS: +10 up to +50

- Brad Guth
 




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