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William Mook wrote:

Yes, I've replaced you because I've taken the trouble to read Brad's
**** and tell him where his ideas diverge from reality in detail.


That could take a multi-volume set of books. :-D

Pat
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Pat Flannery ) wrote:


: Me wrote:

: BAM! Lookitthat, suckas! I am DA TOP MAN on kook-bat's paranoia
: ****list! Numero Uno! In your FACE, posers! You be OWNED!
:
:
: I didn't even rank apparently...how far I have dropped from my former
: days of grandeur as an incest-cloned Borg. :-(

You need to debunk one of Brad's theories (not difficult), but in a manner
that he feels you're trying to stifle his creative thinking and replace it
with that of the "Establishment", of which he has many adjectives that
we're all too familar with.

Brad confuses thinking outside the box with not even knowing the box and
then trying to think.

Brad takes mental gymnatsics to a whole new level, except that the judging
process is: Brad on Brad - 10, the rest of the world on Brad - 0.

Isn't one of the first rules of engineering, that after you come up with
the a great idea, then being able to communicate it in such a manner that
other engineers actually get it? I think you know wher I'm going with
this...

Eric

: Pat
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You need to debunk one of Brad's theories (not difficult), but in a manner
that he feels you're trying to stifle his creative thinking and replace it
with that of the "Establishment", of which he has many adjectives that
we're all too familar with.

Unlike your all-knowing self, not each and every notion that my three
remaining dyslexic brain cells manage to assemble are worthy of being
another pot of gold. As I've said dozen and even hundreds of times
before that I've made my fair share of mistakes, and I certainly have
no intentions of slowing that process down any time soon. Last time
I'd checked, even my lose cannons are still on the poopdeck and firing
at will.

Brad takes mental gymnatsics to a whole new level, except that the judging
process is: Brad on Brad - 10, the rest of the world on Brad - 0.

Eric Chomko,
I like the sound of that one, at least it's honesty pit against
honesty, and there's not even a brown-nose in sight. Of course, I'd
like to be the one asking the questions, rather than having to
continually fend off so much incoming flak in the form of naysayism.

Isn't one of the first rules of engineering, that after you come up with
the a great idea, then being able to communicate it in such a manner that
other engineers actually get it? I think you know wher I'm going with
this...

That's a tough task when you have such limited resources, then having
nothing but these supposed all-knowing rusemasters as wizards and
engineers having no apparent sense of humor, much less even a viable
periscope for looking outside of their own box. It's as though they've
been petri dish cloned as having been initially conceived and having
lived entirely within a nuclear submarine all of their naysay lives,
except without so much as that periscope, and thereby haven't so much
as a fuzzy clue as to which planet their on.

There's certainly more to the potentials of Venusian extremophiles,
exoskeletals, flying diatoms or even somewhat survival smart human like
forms of other life on Venus than my failing eyes alone have seen.
Here's just a few of the more recent of ongoing topics (aka back
peddling as fast as each of these suckers can go before the new and
improved data start arriving from Venus EXPRESS).

Astrobiology: The Case for Venus by; Geoffrey A. Landis
http://gltrs.grc.nasa.gov/reports/20...003-212310.pdf

LIFE ON VENUS / By Sean Henahan
http://www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SUA09/venus297.html

A Scientific Case for Venus Exploration: Venus Express and Beyond II
Posters
http://www.agu.org/meetings/fm05/fm0...fm05_P33A.html

The surface of Venus with locations of major volcano sites
http://www-atm.physics.ox.ac.uk/proj...venus-vol.html

"Rehabilitating" VENUS as a Human Destination
http://www.lunar-reclamation.org/pap...rehabpaper.htm

Astrobiology: Venus (even our NASA know how to back paddle and to
revise their past)
http://astrobiology.arc.nasa.gov/topics/venus.html

Planetary Protection Study Group Mulls Life On Venus / By Leonard David
http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...enus_life.html

Unfortunately, as of 6+ years ago, I was just another box outsider
looking to see what the heck was actually so interesting inside the big
and supposedly all-knowing box, just doing my personal best thing of
trying to make my two cents worth out of all that was being said about
say/naysay our moon, about our NASA and of where the next generations
of spendy and time consuming missions were headed as though our global
energy resources, as well as time and of all the moneys upon Earth were
unlimited.

My first mistake related to Venus was obviously for having been the
good-guy (aka nice messenger) that was being kind enough and 100% at my
expense willing to share with our NASA, as to having offered my
observationology(subjective interpretation) of what looked somewhat out
of place (aka unnatural) about one specific location on Venus. I'd no
idea that so much internal crapolla was going to hit the big-ass fan
that was within that box, and their damage-control squad of clearly
brown-nosed troops within their uplink.space.com naysay collective only
added another butt-load of insult to injury. I guess it was all of
that unexpected mainstream status quo flak that gave the green-light,
indicating that at least my locomotive from my side of hell, that was
hauling all of my lose cannons, was on a perfectly good set of tracks.
-

"If you're not looking for the truth, you will not find it."
-Brad Guth

"To believe with certainty we must begin with doubting."
-Stanislaus I

"The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes,
but having new eyes."
-Marcel Proust

"Truth is given, not to be contemplated, but to be done. Life is an
action, not a thought."
-F.W. Robertson
~

Kurt Vonnegut would have to agree far beyond WAR is WAR, thus "in war
there are no rules" - In fact, war has been the very result of honest
folks having to deal with the likes of others that haven't been playing
by whatever the supposed rules, such as our resident LLPOF warlord(GW
Bush).
Life upon Venus, a township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

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Old March 2nd 06, 03:33 PM posted to rec.models.rockets,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,rec.aviation.military
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Eric Chomko wrote:

You need to debunk one of Brad's theories (not difficult), but in a manner
that he feels you're trying to stifle his creative thinking and replace it
with that of the "Establishment", of which he has many adjectives that
we're all too familar with.



I already suggested we **** with his mind using a male Basilisk Lizard
and a radio controlled airship; doesn't that count for something?

"I still say we go with "Operation Basilisk". From an earlier post of mine:
Further cogitation on the lizard idea has resulted in improvements to
the plan- as Venus rests low on the horizon, the first of the laser
bursts begins coming through the door of Brad's auto garage...these
pulsing in an unearthly manner, the pulses repeating the first ten prime
numbers over and over....then, in the darkness, the soft whir of
electric motors is heard, as from the sky the ten foot long radio
controlled blimp enters the garage and reels down the unearthly looking
chrome suited green male Basilisk Lizard, it's eyes shining yellow in
the darkness, an Islamic prayer call emanating from the small solid
state speaker in it's
backpack, it's crested head looking furtively about. (The male Basilisk:
http://www.geometer.org/costarica/malebasilisk.jpg )
If the prayer call isn't giveaway enough, the creature's Islamic green
coloration should remove all doubt as to it's planet of origin; and the
two-way radio feed from it should allow the beginnings of communication
with that _other_ strange species of life that is Brad Guth. If Guth
becomes threatening toward the "Venusian", a small electric shock can be
administered to the lizard via radio, and will start the bipedal running
behavior that the Basilisk Lizard is noted for- since bipedialism is
sometimes mistakenly equated with intelligence (such as in the case of
people watching Brad lurch about on his hind legs), this should remove
all doubt about the creature's sentience, and Brad will try to converse
with it- the lizard shall then tell him that "Humanity Is Not Yet Ready
To Receive The Venusian Knowledge." and that "He, As The Anointed Venusian
Prophet, Must Keep This Knowledge Forever Secret, And Not Go Spreading
It Around The Internet Until The Appointed Hour; Many, Many, Years From
Now."
Then the take-up reel shall draw the lizard back into the radio
controlled blimp, which shall depart.
This should solve many "first contact" problems, but if worse comes to
worst, all we are out is a Basilisk Lizard.... if that happens, then the
blimp goes back the next day and drops off the Declaration Of War
between Venus and Earth.
Then it explodes. "

Pat
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Old March 2nd 06, 07:38 PM posted to rec.models.rockets,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,rec.aviation.military
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Brad Guth ) wrote:
: You need to debunk one of Brad's theories (not difficult), but in a manner
: that he feels you're trying to stifle his creative thinking and replace it
: with that of the "Establishment", of which he has many adjectives that
: we're all too familar with.

: Unlike your all-knowing self, not each and every notion that my three
: remaining dyslexic brain cells manage to assemble are worthy of being
: another pot of gold. As I've said dozen and even hundreds of times
: before that I've made my fair share of mistakes, and I certainly have
: no intentions of slowing that process down any time soon. Last time
: I'd checked, even my lose cannons are still on the poopdeck and firing
: at will.

All that aside, have you ever actually made anything? A piece of software
that works, even? I can picture you swearing at the computer, then lumping
Microsoft in with the NSA/MI6 conspiracy that is out to get you...

: Brad takes mental gymnatsics to a whole new level, except that the judging
: process is: Brad on Brad - 10, the rest of the world on Brad - 0.

: Eric Chomko,
: I like the sound of that one, at least it's honesty pit against
: honesty, and there's not even a brown-nose in sight. Of course, I'd
: like to be the one asking the questions, rather than having to
: continually fend off so much incoming flak in the form of naysayism.

Who's naysaying? One just has to learn to separate the wheat from the
chaff.

: Isn't one of the first rules of engineering, that after you come up with
: the a great idea, then being able to communicate it in such a manner that
: other engineers actually get it? I think you know wher I'm going with
: this...

: That's a tough task when you have such limited resources, then having
: nothing but these supposed all-knowing rusemasters as wizards and
: engineers having no apparent sense of humor, much less even a viable
: periscope for looking outside of their own box. It's as though they've
: been petri dish cloned as having been initially conceived and having
: lived entirely within a nuclear submarine all of their naysay lives,
: except without so much as that periscope, and thereby haven't so much
: as a fuzzy clue as to which planet their on.

: There's certainly more to the potentials of Venusian extremophiles,
: exoskeletals, flying diatoms or even somewhat survival smart human like
: forms of other life on Venus than my failing eyes alone have seen.

Brad finding life outside of earth will probably be in the form of single
cell organisms. All this Sci-Fi stuff about life NEVER takes into account
the mundane.

: Here's just a few of the more recent of ongoing topics (aka back
: peddling as fast as each of these suckers can go before the new and
: improved data start arriving from Venus EXPRESS).

: Astrobiology: The Case for Venus by; Geoffrey A. Landis
: http://gltrs.grc.nasa.gov/reports/20...003-212310.pdf

: LIFE ON VENUS / By Sean Henahan
: http://www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SUA09/venus297.html

: A Scientific Case for Venus Exploration: Venus Express and Beyond II
: Posters
: http://www.agu.org/meetings/fm05/fm0...fm05_P33A.html

: The surface of Venus with locations of major volcano sites
: http://www-atm.physics.ox.ac.uk/proj...venus-vol.html

: "Rehabilitating" VENUS as a Human Destination
: http://www.lunar-reclamation.org/pap...rehabpaper.htm

: Astrobiology: Venus (even our NASA know how to back paddle and to
: revise their past)
: http://astrobiology.arc.nasa.gov/topics/venus.html

: Planetary Protection Study Group Mulls Life On Venus / By Leonard David
: http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...enus_life.html

: Unfortunately, as of 6+ years ago, I was just another box outsider
: looking to see what the heck was actually so interesting inside the big
: and supposedly all-knowing box, just doing my personal best thing of
: trying to make my two cents worth out of all that was being said about
: say/naysay our moon, about our NASA and of where the next generations
: of spendy and time consuming missions were headed as though our global
: energy resources, as well as time and of all the moneys upon Earth were
: unlimited.

: My first mistake related to Venus was obviously for having been the
: good-guy (aka nice messenger) that was being kind enough and 100% at my
: expense willing to share with our NASA, as to having offered my
: observationology(subjective interpretation) of what looked somewhat out
: of place (aka unnatural) about one specific location on Venus. I'd no
: idea that so much internal crapolla was going to hit the big-ass fan
: that was within that box, and their damage-control squad of clearly
: brown-nosed troops within their uplink.space.com naysay collective only
: added another butt-load of insult to injury. I guess it was all of
: that unexpected mainstream status quo flak that gave the green-light,
: indicating that at least my locomotive from my side of hell, that was
: hauling all of my lose cannons, was on a perfectly good set of tracks.
: -

Brad, none of those links indicates that life exists today on Venus, as
you claim. Only that life COULD have existed due to the fact that the
sun's energy was 25-40% less than it is today. The point is that Veuns a
billion years ago, according to the above links, was more like earth
today. And when making claims from a billion years ago, there is lots of
room for error.

Eric

: "If you're not looking for the truth, you will not find it."
: -Brad Guth

: "To believe with certainty we must begin with doubting."
: -Stanislaus I

: "The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes,
: but having new eyes."
: -Marcel Proust

: "Truth is given, not to be contemplated, but to be done. Life is an
: action, not a thought."
: -F.W. Robertson
: ~

: Kurt Vonnegut would have to agree far beyond WAR is WAR, thus "in war
: there are no rules" - In fact, war has been the very result of honest
: folks having to deal with the likes of others that haven't been playing
: by whatever the supposed rules, such as our resident LLPOF warlord(GW
: Bush).
: Life upon Venus, a township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
: The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
: Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

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Pat Flannery ) wrote:


: Eric Chomko wrote:

: You need to debunk one of Brad's theories (not difficult), but in a manner
: that he feels you're trying to stifle his creative thinking and replace it
: with that of the "Establishment", of which he has many adjectives that
: we're all too familar with.
:
:

: I already suggested we **** with his mind using a male Basilisk Lizard
: and a radio controlled airship; doesn't that count for something?

: "I still say we go with "Operation Basilisk". From an earlier post of mine:
: Further cogitation on the lizard idea has resulted in improvements to
: the plan- as Venus rests low on the horizon, the first of the laser
: bursts begins coming through the door of Brad's auto garage...these
: pulsing in an unearthly manner, the pulses repeating the first ten prime
: numbers over and over....then, in the darkness, the soft whir of
: electric motors is heard, as from the sky the ten foot long radio
: controlled blimp enters the garage and reels down the unearthly looking
: chrome suited green male Basilisk Lizard, it's eyes shining yellow in
: the darkness, an Islamic prayer call emanating from the small solid
: state speaker in it's
: backpack, it's crested head looking furtively about. (The male Basilisk:
: http://www.geometer.org/costarica/malebasilisk.jpg )
: If the prayer call isn't giveaway enough, the creature's Islamic green
: coloration should remove all doubt as to it's planet of origin; and the
: two-way radio feed from it should allow the beginnings of communication
: with that _other_ strange species of life that is Brad Guth. If Guth
: becomes threatening toward the "Venusian", a small electric shock can be
: administered to the lizard via radio, and will start the bipedal running
: behavior that the Basilisk Lizard is noted for- since bipedialism is
: sometimes mistakenly equated with intelligence (such as in the case of
: people watching Brad lurch about on his hind legs), this should remove
: all doubt about the creature's sentience, and Brad will try to converse
: with it- the lizard shall then tell him that "Humanity Is Not Yet Ready
: To Receive The Venusian Knowledge." and that "He, As The Anointed Venusian
: Prophet, Must Keep This Knowledge Forever Secret, And Not Go Spreading
: It Around The Internet Until The Appointed Hour; Many, Many, Years From
: Now."
: Then the take-up reel shall draw the lizard back into the radio
: controlled blimp, which shall depart.
: This should solve many "first contact" problems, but if worse comes to
: worst, all we are out is a Basilisk Lizard.... if that happens, then the
: blimp goes back the next day and drops off the Declaration Of War
: between Venus and Earth.
: Then it explodes. "

You forgot to add, "...film at 11..."

Eric

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I honestly didn't realize that Eric Chomko and Pat Flannery were a
Usenet sleeper-cell of wet-bed partners in crimes against humanity.

See what I mean, in spite of dyslexic myself, I seem to learn something
new almost every day.
-
Brad Guth

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Eric Chomko wrote:

All that aside, have you ever actually made anything?



He made me laugh.

Pat
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Brad Guth ) wrote:
: I honestly didn't realize that Eric Chomko and Pat Flannery were a
: Usenet sleeper-cell of wet-bed partners in crimes against humanity.

Sleeper cell? No, I think you think we're out to terrorize you. But that's
just your paranoia.

: See what I mean, in spite of dyslexic myself, I seem to learn something
: new almost every day.

Yes, but only by your definition of "knowledge".

Eric

: -
: Brad Guth

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Eric Chomko wrote:

Brad Guth ) wrote:
: I honestly didn't realize that Eric Chomko and Pat Flannery were a
: Usenet sleeper-cell of wet-bed partners in crimes against humanity.

Sleeper cell? No, I think you think we're out to terrorize you. But that's
just your paranoia.



I think that he thinks that you think that I think that Eric thinks that
Brad thinks that we are out to terrorize him; but again, that's just
what I think. But now back to my wet sleeper cell in Spandau Prison.

Pat
 




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