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Old March 13th 11, 10:39 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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nightbat

Thousands dead, hope for millions losing ground, 100,000
troops sent in to try to save as many as they can, Mother of Mercy!
Dr. Tesla as well as Dr. Einstein warned of the genie out of the
bottle and to stop wide use of nuclear power, but the reach for
practical nuclear cheap power is great. A whole Nation destroyed
countless lives lost and missing, and still the nightmare is not over.
Profound Earth Science Team Officers warned of the rising sea levels,
mega storms, melting ice caps, increasing water vapor with warming of
the atmosphere, major change in the weather patterns, space satellites
factual negative ice cover sudden melting planet indications, and
increasing multi world wide earthquake activity. The fact that
multiple catastrophic events can happen is looked at as the long shot,
but statistically very possible and worst. ex.( Incoming Space
Comet )

See:
http://channels.isp.netscape.com/new...floc=NI-nelead

A reexamination of nuclear power plants is warranted now in light of
the horrible damage suffered in Japan as factual case example. Like
Russia who placed all their eggs in the basket and gambled and lost
with nuclear power the horror has returned to Japan. The loss of power
to storms is predictable, and with their increase it can only happen
again. Too many lives are at stake, nothing can bring a life back. As
Officer Guth reported where were the radiation detectors, seismic
monitors, ground movement instruments and the attendents? Japan had
the most advanced earthquake buildings and safety warning programs to
help prevent this but as evidenced was not enough. Mother Nature can
throw quick curves, multiple whammies, double, triple, or more
catastrophic occuring events. Also freak 100 + foot waves have now
proved possible, all nuclear power plants are therefore most
vulnerable wherever they are built.

The World needs energy, clean, safe, renewable energy, not can't
happen here rhetoric. Fusion is just around the corner old story, oil
leaks aren't all that bad, right? Dr. Tesla warned heat engines is not
the way, Dr. Einstein fort the rest of his remaining life against the
wide spread use of nuclear power. And now the Profound Earth Science
Team Officers per the nightbat spokesman reiterate, there is a better
way through science.

towards a safer tomorrow,
the nightbat
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Old March 13th 11, 10:56 PM posted to alt.astronomy
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default The End Of Wide Spread Nuclear Power---Japan Now At Mercy OfOutside World

On Mar 13, 3:39*pm, nightbat wrote:
nightbat

* * * * * *Thousands dead, hope for millions losing ground, 100,000
troops sent in to try to save as many as they can, Mother of Mercy!
Dr. Tesla as well as Dr. Einstein warned of the genie out of the
bottle and to stop wide use of nuclear power, but the reach for
practical nuclear cheap power is great. A whole Nation destroyed
countless lives lost and missing, and still the nightmare is not over.
Profound Earth Science Team Officers warned of the rising sea levels,
mega storms, melting ice caps, increasing water vapor with warming of
the atmosphere, major change in the weather patterns, space satellites
factual negative ice cover sudden melting planet indications, and
increasing multi world wide earthquake activity. The fact that
multiple catastrophic events can happen is looked at as the long shot,
but statistically very possible and worst. ex.( Incoming Space
Comet )

See:
*http://channels.isp.netscape.com/new...-APO-+&idq=/ff...

A reexamination of nuclear power plants is warranted now in light of
the horrible damage suffered in Japan as factual case example. Like
Russia who placed all their eggs in the basket and gambled and lost
with nuclear power the horror has returned to Japan. The loss of power
to storms is predictable, and with their increase it can only happen
again. Too many lives are at stake, nothing can bring a life back. As
Officer Guth reported where were the radiation detectors, seismic
monitors, ground movement instruments and the attendents? Japan had
the most advanced earthquake buildings and safety warning programs to
help prevent this but as evidenced was not enough. Mother Nature can
throw quick curves, multiple whammies, double, triple, or more
catastrophic occuring events. Also freak 100 + foot waves have now
proved possible, all nuclear power plants are therefore most
vulnerable wherever they are built.

The World needs energy, clean, safe, renewable energy, not can't
happen here rhetoric. Fusion is just around the corner old story, oil
leaks aren't all that bad, right? Dr. Tesla warned heat engines is not
the way, Dr. Einstein fort the rest of his remaining life against the
wide spread use of nuclear power. And now the Profound Earth Science
Team Officers per the nightbat spokesman reiterate, there is a better
way through science.

* * * * *towards a safer tomorrow,
* * * * *the nightbat


In theory, a 100% plutonium fueled reactor is technically doable.
However, should anything go the least bit wrong, it’s not going to end
well.

That MOX/plutonium fueled reactor (No.3) could become seriously
problematic, even if it were only 7% plutonium is representing an
impressive tonnage that could be a whole lot worse than Chernobyl. I
bet the locals had no real idea that a source of potentially weapons
grade plutonium was so nearby.

So why hasn't the public been officially notified by Japan and our DoD
that had to know the worst threat was yet to come? (“spent MOX fuel,
as it is much more radioactive and generates twice the heat of spent
uranium fuel”, so you can just imagine how extra super-hot the good
stuff is)

With any significant amount of overheated plutonium in the reactor
core that has lost it’s original fuel-rod containment integrity, all
the seawater on Earth is not going to put that kind of molten nuclear
fire out, because its heat is coming from within.

I mean to say that recycled unclear fuel is certainly a good thing
(even if it’s spendy as hell), however what exactly is Japan doing
with a fast breeder reactor that’s specifically capable of providing
or certainly capable of loosing track of potentially weapons grade
plutonium?

http://www.upiasia.com/Security/2009...sed_fuel/1602/
“After uranium is burned in a typical reactor, the spent nuclear fuel
still holds 50 percent of its potential power – 20 percent as uranium
and 30 percent as plutonium.”

“Storage and transport of the fuel also requires more care and cost to
prevent its handlers’ exposure to radiation. Another difficulty is the
handling of spent MOX fuel, as it is much more radioactive and
generates twice the heat of spent uranium fuel.”

Of course running a reactor on thorium fuel kinda eliminates any
chance of creating plutonium or need for involving plutonium, though
not that plutonium isn’t one of several methods for controlling the
heat/energy density that can be safely extracted from thorium.

By now it seems fairly obvious, having a fully reliable and failsafe
backup for control power and cooling system(s) is really more
critically important engineering than the reactor itself, because no
amount of robust reactor vessel can insure our safety without
controlled cooling, and especially if it’s running on MOX fuel.

http://translate.google.com/#
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Old March 14th 11, 01:43 AM posted to alt.astronomy
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default The End Of Wide Spread Nuclear Power---Japan Now At Mercy OfOutside World

On Mar 13, 3:56*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Mar 13, 3:39*pm, nightbat wrote:



nightbat


* * * * * *Thousands dead, hope for millions losing ground, 100,000
troops sent in to try to save as many as they can, Mother of Mercy!
Dr. Tesla as well as Dr. Einstein warned of the genie out of the
bottle and to stop wide use of nuclear power, but the reach for
practical nuclear cheap power is great. A whole Nation destroyed
countless lives lost and missing, and still the nightmare is not over.
Profound Earth Science Team Officers warned of the rising sea levels,
mega storms, melting ice caps, increasing water vapor with warming of
the atmosphere, major change in the weather patterns, space satellites
factual negative ice cover sudden melting planet indications, and
increasing multi world wide earthquake activity. The fact that
multiple catastrophic events can happen is looked at as the long shot,
but statistically very possible and worst. ex.( Incoming Space
Comet )


See:
*http://channels.isp.netscape.com/new...-APO-+&idq=/ff...


A reexamination of nuclear power plants is warranted now in light of
the horrible damage suffered in Japan as factual case example. Like
Russia who placed all their eggs in the basket and gambled and lost
with nuclear power the horror has returned to Japan. The loss of power
to storms is predictable, and with their increase it can only happen
again. Too many lives are at stake, nothing can bring a life back. As
Officer Guth reported where were the radiation detectors, seismic
monitors, ground movement instruments and the attendents? Japan had
the most advanced earthquake buildings and safety warning programs to
help prevent this but as evidenced was not enough. Mother Nature can
throw quick curves, multiple whammies, double, triple, or more
catastrophic occuring events. Also freak 100 + foot waves have now
proved possible, all nuclear power plants are therefore most
vulnerable wherever they are built.


The World needs energy, clean, safe, renewable energy, not can't
happen here rhetoric. Fusion is just around the corner old story, oil
leaks aren't all that bad, right? Dr. Tesla warned heat engines is not
the way, Dr. Einstein fort the rest of his remaining life against the
wide spread use of nuclear power. And now the Profound Earth Science
Team Officers per the nightbat spokesman reiterate, there is a better
way through science.


* * * * *towards a safer tomorrow,
* * * * *the nightbat


In theory, a 100% plutonium fueled reactor is technically doable.
However, should anything go the least bit wrong, it’s not going to end
well.

That MOX/plutonium fueled reactor (No.3) could become seriously
problematic, even if it were only 7% plutonium is representing an
impressive tonnage that could be a whole lot worse than Chernobyl. *I
bet the locals had no real idea that a source of potentially weapons
grade plutonium was so nearby.

So why hasn't the public been officially notified by Japan and our DoD
that had to know the worst threat was yet to come? (“spent MOX fuel,
as it is much more radioactive and generates twice the heat of spent
uranium fuel”, so you can just imagine how extra super-hot the good
stuff is)

With any significant amount of overheated plutonium in the reactor
core that has lost it’s original fuel-rod containment integrity, all
the seawater on Earth is not going to put that kind of molten nuclear
fire out, because its heat is coming from within.

I mean to say that recycled unclear fuel is certainly a good thing
(even if it’s spendy as hell), however what exactly is Japan doing
with a fast breeder reactor that’s specifically capable of providing
or certainly capable of loosing track of potentially weapons grade
plutonium?

*http://www.upiasia.com/Security/2009...s_plutonium-ba....
*“After uranium is burned in a typical reactor, the spent nuclear fuel
still holds 50 percent of its potential power – 20 percent as uranium
and 30 percent as plutonium.”

“Storage and transport of the fuel also requires more care and cost to
prevent its handlers’ exposure to radiation. Another difficulty is the
handling of spent MOX fuel, as it is much more radioactive and
generates twice the heat of spent uranium fuel.”

Of course running a reactor on thorium fuel kinda eliminates any
chance of creating plutonium or need for involving plutonium, though
not that plutonium isn’t one of several methods for controlling the
heat/energy density that can be safely extracted from thorium.

By now it seems fairly obvious, having a fully reliable and failsafe
backup for control power and cooling system(s) is really more
critically important engineering than the reactor itself, because no
amount of robust reactor vessel can insure our safety without
controlled cooling, and especially if it’s running on MOX fuel.


Perhaps the French EPR reactors or ones like their Civaux Super Phenix
would offer better failsafe options.
http://hubrismachine.files.wordpress...structions.jpg

http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”
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Old March 14th 11, 05:57 AM posted to alt.astronomy
nightbat[_1_]
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Default The End Of Wide Spread Nuclear Power---Japan Now At Mercy OfOutside World

On Mar 13, 9:43*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Mar 13, 3:56*pm, Brad Guth wrote:





On Mar 13, 3:39*pm, nightbat wrote:


nightbat


* * * * * *Thousands dead, hope for millions losing ground, 100,000
troops sent in to try to save as many as they can, Mother of Mercy!
Dr. Tesla as well as Dr. Einstein warned of the genie out of the
bottle and to stop wide use of nuclear power, but the reach for
practical nuclear cheap power is great. A whole Nation destroyed
countless lives lost and missing, and still the nightmare is not over..
Profound Earth Science Team Officers warned of the rising sea levels,
mega storms, melting ice caps, increasing water vapor with warming of
the atmosphere, major change in the weather patterns, space satellites
factual negative ice cover sudden melting planet indications, and
increasing multi world wide earthquake activity. The fact that
multiple catastrophic events can happen is looked at as the long shot,
but statistically very possible and worst. ex.( Incoming Space
Comet )


See:
*http://channels.isp.netscape.com/new...-APO-+&idq=/ff...


A reexamination of nuclear power plants is warranted now in light of
the horrible damage suffered in Japan as factual case example. Like
Russia who placed all their eggs in the basket and gambled and lost
with nuclear power the horror has returned to Japan. The loss of power
to storms is predictable, and with their increase it can only happen
again. Too many lives are at stake, nothing can bring a life back. As
Officer Guth reported where were the radiation detectors, seismic
monitors, ground movement instruments and the attendents? Japan had
the most advanced earthquake buildings and safety warning programs to
help prevent this but as evidenced was not enough. Mother Nature can
throw quick curves, multiple whammies, double, triple, or more
catastrophic occuring events. Also freak 100 + foot waves have now
proved possible, all nuclear power plants are therefore most
vulnerable wherever they are built.


The World needs energy, clean, safe, renewable energy, not can't
happen here rhetoric. Fusion is just around the corner old story, oil
leaks aren't all that bad, right? Dr. Tesla warned heat engines is not
the way, Dr. Einstein fort the rest of his remaining life against the
wide spread use of nuclear power. And now the Profound Earth Science
Team Officers per the nightbat spokesman reiterate, there is a better
way through science.


* * * * *towards a safer tomorrow,
* * * * *the nightbat


In theory, a 100% plutonium fueled reactor is technically doable.
However, should anything go the least bit wrong, it’s not going to end
well.


That MOX/plutonium fueled reactor (No.3) could become seriously
problematic, even if it were only 7% plutonium is representing an
impressive tonnage that could be a whole lot worse than Chernobyl. *I
bet the locals had no real idea that a source of potentially weapons
grade plutonium was so nearby.


So why hasn't the public been officially notified by Japan and our DoD
that had to know the worst threat was yet to come? (“spent MOX fuel,
as it is much more radioactive and generates twice the heat of spent
uranium fuel”, so you can just imagine how extra super-hot the good
stuff is)


With any significant amount of overheated plutonium in the reactor
core that has lost it’s original fuel-rod containment integrity, all
the seawater on Earth is not going to put that kind of molten nuclear
fire out, because its heat is coming from within.


I mean to say that recycled unclear fuel is certainly a good thing
(even if it’s spendy as hell), however what exactly is Japan doing
with a fast breeder reactor that’s specifically capable of providing
or certainly capable of loosing track of potentially weapons grade
plutonium?


*http://www.upiasia.com/Security/2009...s_plutonium-ba...
*“After uranium is burned in a typical reactor, the spent nuclear fuel
still holds 50 percent of its potential power – 20 percent as uranium
and 30 percent as plutonium.”


“Storage and transport of the fuel also requires more care and cost to
prevent its handlers’ exposure to radiation. Another difficulty is the
handling of spent MOX fuel, as it is much more radioactive and
generates twice the heat of spent uranium fuel.”


Of course running a reactor on thorium fuel kinda eliminates any
chance of creating plutonium or need for involving plutonium, though
not that plutonium isn’t one of several methods for controlling the
heat/energy density that can be safely extracted from thorium.


By now it seems fairly obvious, having a fully reliable and failsafe
backup for control power and cooling system(s) is really more
critically important engineering than the reactor itself, because no
amount of robust reactor vessel can insure our safety without
controlled cooling, and especially if it’s running on MOX fuel.


Perhaps the French EPR reactors or ones like their Civaux Super Phenix
would offer better failsafe options.
*http://hubrismachine.files.wordpress...r-reactor-inst....

*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


nightbat

Another blast at number 3 unit plant radiation leaked,
hydrogen composite. Hope it wasn't MOX fuel they say main containment
unit is still in tack. Can we believe them doesn't look good.
Hospitals treating for radiation poisoning, Thousands missing
officials being very slow about what's really happening. I don't like
the scale of aftershocks for it points to very unstable situation.
They are still pouring sea water in as last ditch efforts continue.
Billion dollar plants being given up because of dire situation. Four
or five plants in danger without normal or back up cooling systems how
long can they keep that up? Sea water you know is very corrosive,
situation not good. It's a race against time.

keep up your excellent reporting,
the nightbat
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Old March 15th 11, 10:25 AM posted to alt.astronomy
nightbat[_1_]
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Default The End Of Wide Spread Nuclear Power---Japan Now At Mercy OfOutside World

On Mar 13, 9:43*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Mar 13, 3:56*pm, Brad Guth wrote:





On Mar 13, 3:39*pm, nightbat wrote:


nightbat


* * * * * *Thousands dead, hope for millions losing ground, 100,000
troops sent in to try to save as many as they can, Mother of Mercy!
Dr. Tesla as well as Dr. Einstein warned of the genie out of the
bottle and to stop wide use of nuclear power, but the reach for
practical nuclear cheap power is great. A whole Nation destroyed
countless lives lost and missing, and still the nightmare is not over..
Profound Earth Science Team Officers warned of the rising sea levels,
mega storms, melting ice caps, increasing water vapor with warming of
the atmosphere, major change in the weather patterns, space satellites
factual negative ice cover sudden melting planet indications, and
increasing multi world wide earthquake activity. The fact that
multiple catastrophic events can happen is looked at as the long shot,
but statistically very possible and worst. ex.( Incoming Space
Comet )


See:
*http://channels.isp.netscape.com/new...-APO-+&idq=/ff...


A reexamination of nuclear power plants is warranted now in light of
the horrible damage suffered in Japan as factual case example. Like
Russia who placed all their eggs in the basket and gambled and lost
with nuclear power the horror has returned to Japan. The loss of power
to storms is predictable, and with their increase it can only happen
again. Too many lives are at stake, nothing can bring a life back. As
Officer Guth reported where were the radiation detectors, seismic
monitors, ground movement instruments and the attendents? Japan had
the most advanced earthquake buildings and safety warning programs to
help prevent this but as evidenced was not enough. Mother Nature can
throw quick curves, multiple whammies, double, triple, or more
catastrophic occuring events. Also freak 100 + foot waves have now
proved possible, all nuclear power plants are therefore most
vulnerable wherever they are built.


The World needs energy, clean, safe, renewable energy, not can't
happen here rhetoric. Fusion is just around the corner old story, oil
leaks aren't all that bad, right? Dr. Tesla warned heat engines is not
the way, Dr. Einstein fort the rest of his remaining life against the
wide spread use of nuclear power. And now the Profound Earth Science
Team Officers per the nightbat spokesman reiterate, there is a better
way through science.


* * * * *towards a safer tomorrow,
* * * * *the nightbat


In theory, a 100% plutonium fueled reactor is technically doable.
However, should anything go the least bit wrong, it’s not going to end
well.


That MOX/plutonium fueled reactor (No.3) could become seriously
problematic, even if it were only 7% plutonium is representing an
impressive tonnage that could be a whole lot worse than Chernobyl. *I
bet the locals had no real idea that a source of potentially weapons
grade plutonium was so nearby.


So why hasn't the public been officially notified by Japan and our DoD
that had to know the worst threat was yet to come? (“spent MOX fuel,
as it is much more radioactive and generates twice the heat of spent
uranium fuel”, so you can just imagine how extra super-hot the good
stuff is)


With any significant amount of overheated plutonium in the reactor
core that has lost it’s original fuel-rod containment integrity, all
the seawater on Earth is not going to put that kind of molten nuclear
fire out, because its heat is coming from within.


I mean to say that recycled unclear fuel is certainly a good thing
(even if it’s spendy as hell), however what exactly is Japan doing
with a fast breeder reactor that’s specifically capable of providing
or certainly capable of loosing track of potentially weapons grade
plutonium?


*http://www.upiasia.com/Security/2009...s_plutonium-ba...
*“After uranium is burned in a typical reactor, the spent nuclear fuel
still holds 50 percent of its potential power – 20 percent as uranium
and 30 percent as plutonium.”


“Storage and transport of the fuel also requires more care and cost to
prevent its handlers’ exposure to radiation. Another difficulty is the
handling of spent MOX fuel, as it is much more radioactive and
generates twice the heat of spent uranium fuel.”


Of course running a reactor on thorium fuel kinda eliminates any
chance of creating plutonium or need for involving plutonium, though
not that plutonium isn’t one of several methods for controlling the
heat/energy density that can be safely extracted from thorium.


By now it seems fairly obvious, having a fully reliable and failsafe
backup for control power and cooling system(s) is really more
critically important engineering than the reactor itself, because no
amount of robust reactor vessel can insure our safety without
controlled cooling, and especially if it’s running on MOX fuel.


Perhaps the French EPR reactors or ones like their Civaux Super Phenix
would offer better failsafe options.
*http://hubrismachine.files.wordpress...r-reactor-inst....

*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


nightbat

Update on spreading toxic radiation in Japan.

See:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/ts_nm/us_japan_quake_tokyo

Onsite mobile generators now trying to help cool down chambers in
stricken Plants.

on duty,
the nightbat
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Old March 15th 11, 10:42 AM posted to alt.astronomy
Warhol[_1_]
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On Mar 14, 6:57*am, nightbat wrote:
On Mar 13, 9:43*pm, Brad Guth wrote:



On Mar 13, 3:56*pm, Brad Guth wrote:


On Mar 13, 3:39*pm, nightbat wrote:


nightbat


* * * * * *Thousands dead, hope for millions losing ground, 100,000
troops sent in to try to save as many as they can, Mother of Mercy!
Dr. Tesla as well as Dr. Einstein warned of the genie out of the
bottle and to stop wide use of nuclear power, but the reach for
practical nuclear cheap power is great. A whole Nation destroyed
countless lives lost and missing, and still the nightmare is not over.
Profound Earth Science Team Officers warned of the rising sea levels,
mega storms, melting ice caps, increasing water vapor with warming of
the atmosphere, major change in the weather patterns, space satellites
factual negative ice cover sudden melting planet indications, and
increasing multi world wide earthquake activity. The fact that
multiple catastrophic events can happen is looked at as the long shot,
but statistically very possible and worst. ex.( Incoming Space
Comet )


See:
*http://channels.isp.netscape.com/new...-APO-+&idq=/ff...


A reexamination of nuclear power plants is warranted now in light of
the horrible damage suffered in Japan as factual case example. Like
Russia who placed all their eggs in the basket and gambled and lost
with nuclear power the horror has returned to Japan. The loss of power
to storms is predictable, and with their increase it can only happen
again. Too many lives are at stake, nothing can bring a life back. As
Officer Guth reported where were the radiation detectors, seismic
monitors, ground movement instruments and the attendents? Japan had
the most advanced earthquake buildings and safety warning programs to
help prevent this but as evidenced was not enough. Mother Nature can
throw quick curves, multiple whammies, double, triple, or more
catastrophic occuring events. Also freak 100 + foot waves have now
proved possible, all nuclear power plants are therefore most
vulnerable wherever they are built.


The World needs energy, clean, safe, renewable energy, not can't
happen here rhetoric. Fusion is just around the corner old story, oil
leaks aren't all that bad, right? Dr. Tesla warned heat engines is not
the way, Dr. Einstein fort the rest of his remaining life against the
wide spread use of nuclear power. And now the Profound Earth Science
Team Officers per the nightbat spokesman reiterate, there is a better
way through science.


* * * * *towards a safer tomorrow,
* * * * *the nightbat


In theory, a 100% plutonium fueled reactor is technically doable.
However, should anything go the least bit wrong, it’s not going to end
well.


That MOX/plutonium fueled reactor (No.3) could become seriously
problematic, even if it were only 7% plutonium is representing an
impressive tonnage that could be a whole lot worse than Chernobyl. *I
bet the locals had no real idea that a source of potentially weapons
grade plutonium was so nearby.


So why hasn't the public been officially notified by Japan and our DoD
that had to know the worst threat was yet to come? (“spent MOX fuel,
as it is much more radioactive and generates twice the heat of spent
uranium fuel”, so you can just imagine how extra super-hot the good
stuff is)


With any significant amount of overheated plutonium in the reactor
core that has lost it’s original fuel-rod containment integrity, all
the seawater on Earth is not going to put that kind of molten nuclear
fire out, because its heat is coming from within.


I mean to say that recycled unclear fuel is certainly a good thing
(even if it’s spendy as hell), however what exactly is Japan doing
with a fast breeder reactor that’s specifically capable of providing
or certainly capable of loosing track of potentially weapons grade
plutonium?


*http://www.upiasia.com/Security/2009...s_plutonium-ba...
*“After uranium is burned in a typical reactor, the spent nuclear fuel
still holds 50 percent of its potential power – 20 percent as uranium
and 30 percent as plutonium.”


“Storage and transport of the fuel also requires more care and cost to
prevent its handlers’ exposure to radiation. Another difficulty is the
handling of spent MOX fuel, as it is much more radioactive and
generates twice the heat of spent uranium fuel.”


Of course running a reactor on thorium fuel kinda eliminates any
chance of creating plutonium or need for involving plutonium, though
not that plutonium isn’t one of several methods for controlling the
heat/energy density that can be safely extracted from thorium.


By now it seems fairly obvious, having a fully reliable and failsafe
backup for control power and cooling system(s) is really more
critically important engineering than the reactor itself, because no
amount of robust reactor vessel can insure our safety without
controlled cooling, and especially if it’s running on MOX fuel.


Perhaps the French EPR reactors or ones like their Civaux Super Phenix
would offer better failsafe options.
*http://hubrismachine.files.wordpress...r-reactor-inst...


*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


nightbat

* * * * * *Another blast at number 3 unit plant radiation leaked,
hydrogen composite. Hope it wasn't MOX fuel they say main containment
unit is still in tack. Can we believe them doesn't look good.
Hospitals treating for radiation poisoning, Thousands missing
officials being very slow about what's really happening. I don't like
the scale of aftershocks for it points to very unstable situation.
They are still pouring sea water in as last ditch efforts continue.
Billion dollar plants being given up because of dire situation. Four
or five plants in danger without normal or back up cooling systems how
long can they keep that up? Sea water you know is very corrosive,
situation not good. It's a race against time.

* * * * * *keep up your excellent reporting,
* * * * * *the nightbat



It's blast number 4 at reactor 2... and #5 & #6 are on fire... Mox is
FUK I #3.

SIX REACTORS IN MELTDOWN....

LATEST NEWS:
All reactors at Fukushima No I (Daiichi) Plant have exploded in the
past 72 hours (overnight #2 and #4 exploded) The suppression pool of
#2 can no longer retain pressure. #4 is still on fire. At the
Fukushima No 2 Plant (Daini), Reactors 5 and 6 have lost their water
supply and the rods are exposed... so they too are going into
meltdown.

Everyone is monitoring the rising radiation levels in the air...

http://www.henshinonline.com/images/...erstein_03.jpg
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Old March 15th 11, 10:49 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Mar 13, 6:56*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Mar 13, 3:39*pm, nightbat wrote:





nightbat


* * * * * *Thousands dead, hope for millions losing ground, 100,000
troops sent in to try to save as many as they can, Mother of Mercy!
Dr. Tesla as well as Dr. Einstein warned of the genie out of the
bottle and to stop wide use of nuclear power, but the reach for
practical nuclear cheap power is great. A whole Nation destroyed
countless lives lost and missing, and still the nightmare is not over.
Profound Earth Science Team Officers warned of the rising sea levels,
mega storms, melting ice caps, increasing water vapor with warming of
the atmosphere, major change in the weather patterns, space satellites
factual negative ice cover sudden melting planet indications, and
increasing multi world wide earthquake activity. The fact that
multiple catastrophic events can happen is looked at as the long shot,
but statistically very possible and worst. ex.( Incoming Space
Comet )


See:
*http://channels.isp.netscape.com/new...-APO-+&idq=/ff...


A reexamination of nuclear power plants is warranted now in light of
the horrible damage suffered in Japan as factual case example. Like
Russia who placed all their eggs in the basket and gambled and lost
with nuclear power the horror has returned to Japan. The loss of power
to storms is predictable, and with their increase it can only happen
again. Too many lives are at stake, nothing can bring a life back. As
Officer Guth reported where were the radiation detectors, seismic
monitors, ground movement instruments and the attendents? Japan had
the most advanced earthquake buildings and safety warning programs to
help prevent this but as evidenced was not enough. Mother Nature can
throw quick curves, multiple whammies, double, triple, or more
catastrophic occuring events. Also freak 100 + foot waves have now
proved possible, all nuclear power plants are therefore most
vulnerable wherever they are built.


The World needs energy, clean, safe, renewable energy, not can't
happen here rhetoric. Fusion is just around the corner old story, oil
leaks aren't all that bad, right? Dr. Tesla warned heat engines is not
the way, Dr. Einstein fort the rest of his remaining life against the
wide spread use of nuclear power. And now the Profound Earth Science
Team Officers per the nightbat spokesman reiterate, there is a better
way through science.


* * * * *towards a safer tomorrow,
* * * * *the nightbat


In theory, a 100% plutonium fueled reactor is technically doable.
However, should anything go the least bit wrong, it’s not going to end
well.

That MOX/plutonium fueled reactor (No.3) could become seriously
problematic, even if it were only 7% plutonium is representing an
impressive tonnage that could be a whole lot worse than Chernobyl. *I
bet the locals had no real idea that a source of potentially weapons
grade plutonium was so nearby.

So why hasn't the public been officially notified by Japan and our DoD
that had to know the worst threat was yet to come? (“spent MOX fuel,
as it is much more radioactive and generates twice the heat of spent
uranium fuel”, so you can just imagine how extra super-hot the good
stuff is)

With any significant amount of overheated plutonium in the reactor
core that has lost it’s original fuel-rod containment integrity, all
the seawater on Earth is not going to put that kind of molten nuclear
fire out, because its heat is coming from within.

I mean to say that recycled unclear fuel is certainly a good thing
(even if it’s spendy as hell), however what exactly is Japan doing
with a fast breeder reactor that’s specifically capable of providing
or certainly capable of loosing track of potentially weapons grade
plutonium?

*http://www.upiasia.com/Security/2009...s_plutonium-ba....
*“After uranium is burned in a typical reactor, the spent nuclear fuel
still holds 50 percent of its potential power – 20 percent as uranium
and 30 percent as plutonium.”

“Storage and transport of the fuel also requires more care and cost to
prevent its handlers’ exposure to radiation. Another difficulty is the
handling of spent MOX fuel, as it is much more radioactive and
generates twice the heat of spent uranium fuel.”

Of course running a reactor on thorium fuel kinda eliminates any
chance of creating plutonium or need for involving plutonium, though
not that plutonium isn’t one of several methods for controlling the
heat/energy density that can be safely extracted from thorium.

By now it seems fairly obvious, having a fully reliable and failsafe
backup for control power and cooling system(s) is really more
critically important engineering than the reactor itself, because no
amount of robust reactor vessel can insure our safety without
controlled cooling, and especially if it’s running on MOX fuel.

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nightbat

The big nuclear energy investors now see their hopeful
billions in profits going out the window. Germany now having big
doubts about nuclear energy after Japan disaster. The Swiss halt all
building of nukes until safety concerns are addressed. How could this
have happened Mother Nature is supposed to cooperate. The clueless
never learn blinded by power and greed overlooking safety.

See:
http://channels.isp.netscape.com/pf/...=+&floc=NI-mo3

hail clean energy,
the nightbat
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Old March 29th 11, 11:43 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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DOOM AND GLOOM ASSHOLE!

SHUT THE **** UP, SENILE OLD FOOL!

THERE IS NO COMETH (SIC) COMING!

Saul Levy


On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:39:32 -0700 (PDT), nightbat
wrote:

Thousands dead, hope for millions losing ground, 100,000
troops sent in to try to save as many as they can, Mother of Mercy!
Dr. Tesla as well as Dr. Einstein warned of the genie out of the
bottle and to stop wide use of nuclear power, but the reach for
practical nuclear cheap power is great. A whole Nation destroyed
countless lives lost and missing, and still the nightmare is not over.
Profound Earth Science Team Officers warned of the rising sea levels,
mega storms, melting ice caps, increasing water vapor with warming of
the atmosphere, major change in the weather patterns, space satellites
factual negative ice cover sudden melting planet indications, and
increasing multi world wide earthquake activity. The fact that
multiple catastrophic events can happen is looked at as the long shot,
but statistically very possible and worst. ex.( Incoming Space
Comet )

See:
http://channels.isp.netscape.com/new...floc=NI-nelead

A reexamination of nuclear power plants is warranted now in light of
the horrible damage suffered in Japan as factual case example. Like
Russia who placed all their eggs in the basket and gambled and lost
with nuclear power the horror has returned to Japan. The loss of power
to storms is predictable, and with their increase it can only happen
again. Too many lives are at stake, nothing can bring a life back. As
Officer Guth reported where were the radiation detectors, seismic
monitors, ground movement instruments and the attendents? Japan had
the most advanced earthquake buildings and safety warning programs to
help prevent this but as evidenced was not enough. Mother Nature can
throw quick curves, multiple whammies, double, triple, or more
catastrophic occuring events. Also freak 100 + foot waves have now
proved possible, all nuclear power plants are therefore most
vulnerable wherever they are built.

The World needs energy, clean, safe, renewable energy, not can't
happen here rhetoric. Fusion is just around the corner old story, oil
leaks aren't all that bad, right? Dr. Tesla warned heat engines is not
the way, Dr. Einstein fort the rest of his remaining life against the
wide spread use of nuclear power. And now the Profound Earth Science
Team Officers per the nightbat spokesman reiterate, there is a better
way through science.

towards a safer tomorrow,
the nightbat

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Old March 29th 11, 11:55 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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MOTHER NATURE IS A BITCH, frootie!

JUST LIKE YOU ARE A ****ING LIAR AND GAY MORON!

THE GUANO (****) FUMES ARE GETTING TO YOU!

Saul Levy


On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 03:49:11 -0700 (PDT), nightbat
wrote:

The big nuclear energy investors now see their hopeful
billions in profits going out the window. Germany now having big
doubts about nuclear energy after Japan disaster. The Swiss halt all
building of nukes until safety concerns are addressed. How could this
have happened Mother Nature is supposed to cooperate. The clueless
never learn blinded by power and greed overlooking safety.

See:
http://channels.isp.netscape.com/pf/...=+&floc=NI-mo3

hail clean energy,
the nightbat

 




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