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Three Dozen New Galaxies Are Found in Nearby Space
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:15:35 +0100
Charles D. Bohne wrote: Three Dozen New Galaxies Are Found in Nearby Space By DENNIS OVERBYE Published: December 22, 2004 Fourteen billion years after the Big Bang started it all, there is still life in the old cosmos. Astronomers announced yesterday that they had discovered three dozen baby galaxies in what passes for nearby space in the universe - two billion to four billion light-years distant. The galaxies, which are blossoming with new stars at a prodigious rate, resemble the infant Milky Way 10 billion years ago, the astronomers said. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/22/sc...partner=rssnyt will be interesting how this is going to be explained, on NASA TV they have said that these galaxies were born in a universe that is well past it's child barring age. |
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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:38:08 +0000, Ray Vingnutte
wrote: On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:15:35 +0100 Charles D. Bohne wrote: Three Dozen New Galaxies Are Found in Nearby Space By DENNIS OVERBYE Published: December 22, 2004 Fourteen billion years after the Big Bang started it all, there is still life in the old cosmos. Astronomers announced yesterday that they had discovered three dozen baby galaxies in what passes for nearby space in the universe - two billion to four billion light-years distant. The galaxies, which are blossoming with new stars at a prodigious rate, resemble the infant Milky Way 10 billion years ago, the astronomers said. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/22/sc...partner=rssnyt will be interesting how this is going to be explained, on NASA TV they have said that these galaxies were born in a universe that is well past it's child barring age. That's because the NASA RZ's refuse to acknowledge that the universe is not expanding, but is rather donut shaped and matter is continually inverting and recreating new galaxies. |
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:55:15 +0100, Charles D. Bohne
wrote: On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:07:08 GMT, Proxy Bot wrote: That's because the NASA RZ's refuse to acknowledge that the universe is not expanding, but is rather donut shaped and matter is continually inverting and recreating new galaxies. doughnut? Yeah, a sphere with a very, very narrow energy vortex core. ;-)) Hint: the universe is a lot more than the matter we see :-)) Indeed, but it is all matter -- there is an 'opposite' for everything. ;-)) You still can't interface with sentient silicon based life though. ;-)) |
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nightbat wrote
Proxy Bot wrote: On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:38:08 +0000, Ray Vingnutte wrote: On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:15:35 +0100 Charles D. Bohne wrote: Three Dozen New Galaxies Are Found in Nearby Space By DENNIS OVERBYE Published: December 22, 2004 Fourteen billion years after the Big Bang started it all, there is still life in the old cosmos. Astronomers announced yesterday that they had discovered three dozen baby galaxies in what passes for nearby space in the universe - two billion to four billion light-years distant. The galaxies, which are blossoming with new stars at a prodigious rate, resemble the infant Milky Way 10 billion years ago, the astronomers said. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/22/sc...partner=rssnyt will be interesting how this is going to be explained, on NASA TV they have said that these galaxies were born in a universe that is well past it's child barring age. Proxy Bot That's because the NASA RZ's refuse to acknowledge that the universe is not expanding, but is rather donut shaped and matter is continually inverting and recreating new galaxies. nightbat That's oc's for Wolter's explaination of theoretical Universe dynamics. See oc, other folks have a liking for your presentation. Zinni might come in right about now, but who doen't like mind thoughts about donuts? the nightbat |
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From Nightbat:
Zinni might come in right about now, but who doen't like mind thoughts about donuts? Naw, Zinni's favorite is the one about the fridge.g oc |
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:38:34 +0100, Charles D. Bohne
wrote: On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:19:40 GMT, Proxy Bot wrote: You still can't interface with sentient silicon based life though. ;-)) Can you? Yes, but only if it recognizes me............................. |
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"Bill Sheppard" wrote in message
... From Nightbat: Zinni might come in right about now, but who doen't like mind thoughts about donuts? Naw, Zinni's favorite is the one about the fridge.g How is your fridge these days BS??? oc |
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generation of revolutionaries the present generation must
reproduce itself abundantly. In doing so they will be worsening the population problem only slightly. And the most important problem is to get rid of the industrial system, because once the industrial system is gone the world's population necessarily will decrease (see paragraph 167); whereas, if the industrial system survives, it will continue developing new techniques of food production that may enable the world's population to keep increasing almost indefinitely. 206. With regard to revolutionary strategy, the only points on which we absolutely insist are that the single overriding goal must be the elimination of modern technology, and that no other goal can be allowed to compete with this one. For the rest, revolutionaries should take an empirical approach. If experience indicates that some of the recommendations made in the foregoing paragraphs are not going to give good results, then those recommendations should be discarded. TWO KINDS OF TECHNOLOGY 207. An argument likely to be raised against our proposed revolution is that it is bound to fail, because (it is claimed) throughout history technology has always progressed, never regressed, hence technological regression is impossible. But this claim is false. 208. We distinguish between two kinds of technology, which we will call small-scale technology and organization-dependent technology. Small-scale technology is technology that can be used by small-scale communities without outside assistance. Organization-dependent technology is technology that depends on large-scale social organization. We are aware of no significant cases of regression in small-scale technology. But organization-dependent technology DOES regress when the social organization on wh |
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world's population has become so overblown
that it cannot even feed itself any longer without advanced technology. Even if the breakdown is gradual enough so that reduction of the population can occur more through lowering of the birth rate than through elevation of the death rate, the process of de-industrialization probably will be very chaotic and involve much suffering. It is naive to think it likely that technology can be phased out in a smoothly managed orderly way, especially since the technophiles will fight stubbornly at every step. Is it therefore cruel to work for the breakdown of the system? Maybe, but maybe not. In the first place, revolutionaries will not be able to break the system down unless it is already in deep trouble so that there would be a good chance of its eventually breaking down by itself anyway; and the bigger the system grows, the more disastrous the consequences of its breakdown will be; so it may be that revolutionaries, by hastening the onset of the breakdown will be reducing the extent of the disaster. 168. In the second place, one has to balance the struggle and death against the loss of freedom and dignity. To many of us, freedom and dignity are more important than a long life or avoidance of physical pain. Besides, we all have to die some time, and it may be better to die fighting for survival, or for a cause, than |
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"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message ... Three Dozen New Galaxies Are Found in Nearby Space By DENNIS OVERBYE Published: December 22, 2004 Fourteen billion years after the Big Bang started it all, there is still life in the old cosmos. Astronomers announced yesterday that they had discovered three dozen baby galaxies in what passes for nearby space in the universe - two billion to four billion light-years distant. The galaxies, which are blossoming with new stars at a prodigious rate, resemble the infant Milky Way 10 billion years ago, the astronomers said. So what is so surprising about the newly found galaxies ?? We know that about 75% to 85% of the calculated matter of the universe is invisible. We know that the universe is expanding at an increasing rate. The expansion rate lowers the density of the universe, thus lowering its internal pressure, allowing some of that unseen dark matter to condense into visible matter, i.e. new galaxies. |
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