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Old August 29th 06, 11:22 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.astronomy,alt.messianic,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.policy
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http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/aug/06082104.html


Monday August 21, 2006


Vatican Dumps Darwinist-Boosting Astronomer

By Hilary White

ROME, August 21, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Jesuit
priest-astronomer who vocally opposed the Catholic understanding of
God-directed creation, has been removed from his post as head of the
Vatican observatory.

Fr. George Coyne has been head of the Vatican observatory for 25 years
is an expert in astrophysics with an interest in the interstellar
medium, stars with extended atmospheres and Seyfert galaxies. He also
appointed himself as an expert in evolutionary biology and theology
last summer in an article for the UK's liberal Catholic magazine, The
Tablet.

Fr. Coyne was writing against Christoph Cardinal Schonborn, a principal
author of the Catholic catechism, who said that an "unplanned process
of random variation and natural selection," both important parts of
evolutionary thinking, are incompatible with Catholic belief in God's
ordering and guiding of creation.

Coyne, retiring after 25 years of service for the Vatican observatory,
said, "The classical question as to whether the human being came
about by chance, and so has no need of God, or by necessity, and so
through the action of a designer God, is no longer valid."

Schonborn had written in the New York Times that "neo-Darwinian
evolution is not compatible with Catholic doctrine."

Fr. Coyne is being replaced at the Vatican Observatory by Father Funes,
43, a native of Cordoba, Argentina.



Vatican Astronomer Contradicts Cardinal's Support of Catholic
Teaching on Evolution
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/aug/05080901.html

Visit the website of the Vatican Observatory
http://clavius.as.arizona.edu/vo/R1024/VO.html

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Old August 29th 06, 11:43 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.astronomy,alt.messianic,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.policy
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/aug/06082104.html


Monday August 21, 2006


Vatican Dumps Darwinist-Boosting Astronomer

By Hilary White

ROME, August 21, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Jesuit
priest-astronomer who vocally opposed the Catholic understanding of
God-directed creation, has been removed from his post as head of the
Vatican observatory.

Fr. George Coyne has been head of the Vatican observatory for 25 years
is an expert in astrophysics with an interest in the interstellar
medium, stars with extended atmospheres and Seyfert galaxies. He also
appointed himself as an expert in evolutionary biology and theology
last summer in an article for the UK's liberal Catholic magazine, The
Tablet.

Fr. Coyne was writing against Christoph Cardinal Schonborn, a principal
author of the Catholic catechism, who said that an "unplanned process
of random variation and natural selection," both important parts of
evolutionary thinking, are incompatible with Catholic belief in God's
ordering and guiding of creation.

Coyne, retiring after 25 years of service for the Vatican observatory,
said, "The classical question as to whether the human being came
about by chance, and so has no need of God, or by necessity, and so
through the action of a designer God, is no longer valid."

Schonborn had written in the New York Times that "neo-Darwinian
evolution is not compatible with Catholic doctrine."

Fr. Coyne is being replaced at the Vatican Observatory by Father Funes,
43, a native of Cordoba, Argentina.



Vatican Astronomer Contradicts Cardinal's Support of Catholic
Teaching on Evolution
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/aug/05080901.html

Visit the website of the Vatican Observatory
http://clavius.as.arizona.edu/vo/R1024/VO.html



Galileo but not Darwin?

http://www.cas.muohio.edu/~marcumsd/...res/grehab.htm

Double-A

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Old August 30th 06, 01:34 AM posted to alt.atheism,alt.astronomy,alt.messianic,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.policy
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The Mormon Church has its own dilemma when confronted by modern
science:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...-dna-lds_x.htm

Double-A

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Old August 30th 06, 02:40 AM posted to alt.atheism,alt.astronomy,alt.messianic,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.policy
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Double-A wrote:
The Mormon Church has its own dilemma when confronted by modern
science:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...-dna-lds_x.htm

Here is an update on the earlier story concerning the...

" Atheist who sued priest over Jesus' reality "


See http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50890

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Cascioli for further information)

Cordially,

R.

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Old August 30th 06, 04:29 AM posted to alt.atheism,alt.astronomy,alt.messianic,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.policy
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/aug/06082104.html


Monday August 21, 2006


Vatican Dumps Darwinist-Boosting Astronomer

By Hilary White


False alarm. The headline reflects the propaganda
goals of the Reich-wing, and not reality.

Fact is, the man was born in 1933. If you're having
some difficulty with the math (and if you're a
creationist git then surely you are) that would make
him 73 years old.

There really isn't anything special about the Vatican
retiring a 73 y.o. man who's been on the job for 25
years.

Problem is, America's Reich-wing needs everyone to
believe that "Creationism" equals "Christian," while
"Evolution" means "Godless secularism." So they
spin the retirement of a 73 y.o. man as "Dumping"
him for daring to contradict the purely fundamentalist
Protestant take on creationism.

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Old August 30th 06, 04:31 AM posted to alt.atheism,alt.astronomy,alt.messianic,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.policy
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Double-A wrote:
The Mormon Church has its own dilemma when confronted by modern
science:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...-dna-lds_x.htm

Double-A


Well, nobody sane ever claimed that either the Vatican or the mormon big
brethren were hotbeads of liberal thinking or free inquiry.


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Old August 30th 06, 06:07 AM posted to alt.atheism,alt.astronomy,alt.messianic,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.policy
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In article . com,
"Sound of Trumpet" wrote:

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/aug/06082104.html


Monday August 21, 2006


Vatican Dumps Darwinist-Boosting Astronomer

By Hilary White

ROME, August 21, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Jesuit
priest-astronomer who vocally opposed the Catholic understanding of
God-directed creation, has been removed from his post as head of the
Vatican observatory.


Galileo redux.

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Old August 30th 06, 01:49 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.astronomy,alt.messianic,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.policy
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In article .com,
says...

Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/aug/06082104.html


Monday August 21, 2006


Vatican Dumps Darwinist-Boosting Astronomer

By Hilary White


False alarm. The headline reflects the propaganda
goals of the Reich-wing, and not reality.

Fact is, the man was born in 1933. If you're having
some difficulty with the math (and if you're a
creationist git then surely you are) that would make
him 73 years old.


And he has cancer. Both is age and medical condition would be pretty
good reasons for retiring. If the vatican opposes his views then the
pope can just flat out contradict him on the spot. There's no need for
them to beat around the bush. The fact is that the vatican doesn't know
what lie to tell next, so, for now, they're keeping their ignorant mouths
shut.

--
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threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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Old August 30th 06, 03:27 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.astronomy,alt.messianic,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.policy
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:49:34 -0600, in a place far, far away, quibbler
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a
way as to indicate that:

Fact is, the man was born in 1933. If you're having
some difficulty with the math (and if you're a
creationist git then surely you are) that would make
him 73 years old.


And he has cancer. Both is age and medical condition would be pretty
good reasons for retiring. If the vatican opposes his views then the
pope can just flat out contradict him on the spot. There's no need for
them to beat around the bush. The fact is that the vatican doesn't know
what lie to tell next, so, for now, they're keeping their ignorant mouths
shut.


Speaking of keeping ignorant mouths shut, maybe you should work on
your own. The Church does not oppose evolution. Creationism is a
Protestant thing.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/01/.../evolution.php
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Old August 30th 06, 03:41 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.astronomy,alt.messianic,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.space.policy
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:27:15 GMT, h
(Rand Simberg) spake thusly:


Speaking of keeping ignorant mouths shut, maybe you should work on
your own. The Church does not oppose evolution. Creationism is a
Protestant thing.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/01/.../evolution.php

Creation is a Biblical thing.


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