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On Mar 9, 5:43*pm, Hatunen wrote:
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 04:48:34 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Mar 9, 6:18*am, Chuck Riggs wrote: IINM, there are references to God in the Constitution and in the Declaration of Independence, both written well before the Gipper's day. The texts are easily available on line. The closest you can come is "Creator." And the prohibitions of a religious test, and of establishment. And you won't find a president ending a speech -- let alone every public appearance -- with "God bless America" before Reagan. (When did the Irving Berlin tune become ubiquitous?) During World War II, as sung by Kate Smith. No. It was a joke that some team in Philadelphia used Kate Smith before every game. When was that? Nowadays it's as if it has replaced the long, unsingable one as The Anthem. |
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On Mar 9, 6:47*pm, Dr J R Stockton
wrote: In sci.astro message ooglegroups.com, Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:18:50, Peter T. Daniels posted: The people who put dates on cornerstones these days (since "CE" was invented, that is) don't generally provide any era designation. The dates on cornerstones are necessarily AD, if presumed to be on the Julian or Gregorian Calendars, because BC had already ceased when those were invented. *AD, AH, AM can only mean Christian, Muslim, Jewish (or a rarity). A century ago, dates on cornerstones routinely had "A.D." in them, and it was just as redundant then. |
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On Mar 9, 7:16*pm, Andrew Usher wrote:
Dr J R Stockton wrote: In sci.astro message ooglegroups.com, Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:18:50, Peter T. Daniels posted: The people who put dates on cornerstones these days (since "CE" was invented, that is) don't generally provide any era designation. The dates on cornerstones are necessarily AD, if presumed to be on the Julian or Gregorian Calendars, because BC had already ceased when those were invented. Peter clearly thinks we all need to write CE now and there's something wrong with AD. ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????? Why would you put "C.E." on a cornerstone? It makes no sense to use "A.D." in any context that isn't explicitly Christian, which is why "C.E." was invented in the middle of the last century. |
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Chuck Riggs wrote:
On 8 Mar 2010 11:13:37 -0800, R H Draney wrote: Chuck Riggs filted: instead of the bog-standard "God bless you". That may be our first Russian-English bilingual pun....r Is a pun a pun if not intended? I'd say there's a punness property/quality which is independent of intentions. Similarly, a statement lacking this property is not a pun, even when it was intended to be one. :-) pjk |
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Ramblin Bob writes:
Peter T. Daniels wrote: My god you have a lot of free time to waste. That's really funny, coming from you! The astonishing thing is that he demands documentary proof of everything outside his preconceptions, then makes snide remarks about people who do it. -- Online waterways route planner | http://canalplan.eu Plan trips, see photos, check facilities | http://canalplan.org.uk |
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On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:37:24 -0700, Hatunen wrote:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:08:51 +0000, Chuck Riggs wrote: On 8 Mar 2010 11:13:37 -0800, R H Draney wrote: Chuck Riggs filted: instead of the bog-standard "God bless you". That may be our first Russian-English bilingual pun....r Is a pun a pun if not intended? Sometimes that's the best kind... ....for the observer, perhaps. -- Regards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE |
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:02:03 +1300, "PaulJK"
wrote: Chuck Riggs wrote: On 8 Mar 2010 11:13:37 -0800, R H Draney wrote: Chuck Riggs filted: instead of the bog-standard "God bless you". That may be our first Russian-English bilingual pun....r Is a pun a pun if not intended? I'd say there's a punness property/quality which is independent of intentions. Similarly, a statement lacking this property is not a pun, even when it was intended to be one. :-) pjk Well put. -- Regards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE |
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On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 04:48:34 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
wrote: On Mar 9, 6:18*am, Chuck Riggs wrote: On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:34:37 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Mar 8, 6:45*am, Chuck Riggs wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:34:30 +0100, James Hogg wrote: Chuck Riggs wrote: On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:11:11 -0800, "Skitt" wrote: snip It would be impossible for an atheist to be elected to political office in the USA, I think. That is, IMO, a sad commentary on the flexibility of American thought, if it is true. Can you imagine someone ending every speech with "Nothing bless America"? No, but I can imagine politicians ending their speeches, at some distant date, with "Let us be thankful for our fine educational system", for without it, they'll be thinking, if I am right, people would still be clinging to religious superstition. The "God bless America" tag goes back no further than Reagan -- the first divorced president, a nominal Roman Catholic. IINM, there are references to God in the Constitution and in the Declaration of Independence, both written well before the Gipper's day. The texts are easily available on line. Yup. The closest you can come is "Creator." God by another name is just as godly. -- Regards, Chuck Riggs, An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE |
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On Mar 10, 3:23*am, Nick wrote:
Ramblin Bob writes: Peter T. Daniels wrote: My god you have a lot of free time to waste. That's really funny, coming from you! The astonishing thing is that he demands documentary proof of everything outside his preconceptions, then makes snide remarks about people who do it. In this case, no evidence (let alone "documentary proof," whatever that may be) was provided that the hypocrite Reagan's formula was used by any earlier president, either in ipsissima verba or to routinely end virtually every public appearance. |
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The closest you can come is "Creator." God by another name is just as godly. That principle is asserted by freemasons, and masons have come under fire, and been driven from various religions, because of it. |
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