Chasing Rainbows

"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:15:57 -0500, "Darla"
wrote:


Not at all, Charles!
After official contact, it is not just common, but actually CERTAIN that
humans can handle our technology.

Heavens beware! ;-

Within less than 800 years, they can generally master our technology and
become a truly crucial member of our build/explore affinity.

800 years is not enough time to prevent them from abusing it.

It is the easiest thing in the galaxy for humans to absorb that it is
"assertiveness" rather than "aggressiveness" that truly SPURS them on.
And assertiveness is highly respected in the universe!

It is?

Yes, there have been many times in the past explorations of humans that
ended tragically.

Fact!
Sometimes it was due to aggression from the higher technology, who wanted
things like gold and other wealth, sometimes tragedy would be accidental,
as
in the explorers unknowingly inflicting a fatal microorganism on the
lesser-technology indigenous peoples, and sometimes it would be both.

Bringing the pest in woolen blankets hasn't been "accidental".

But we have seen otherwise, which is why we know that humans are also
capable of benevolence.

Must be their heritage from Neanderthal men ..

If we didn't know this for certain, we wouldn't waste time studying
humans.

Well I would not call it a waste of time, rather "amusement" :-))

We would just do our duty, mainly to explore this area of the galaxy,
continue to view Earth as an oasis and take care of it, and wait to see
how
human aggressiveness mixed with a quickly growing technology would
eventually end.

Ok.

This is a highly volatile condition, simply due to the fact that
technology
generally precedes true understanding of that technology.
Societies can build things using trial and error, and when they've built
something that makes them go "WOW", it is only then that they try to
understand all the details about the construction.

I prefer people to be able to understand the technology - not simply use
it.

Like modern computers -- much of the technology of computing comes from
findings in quantum mechanics.
And yet humans still have little understanding of that minuscule area of
inquiry.
Most people figure that if they can turn the thing on and off, and usually
get what they want just by pressing a few buttons, that's all they need to
know.

Yes, this is exact the problem!

The engineers are, of course, more knowledgeable than the average person,
but as I said, even they have little understanding of much of the theory
behind what makes those computers make people go "WOW".

Nobody should be "allowed" to use a computer or a car without knowing
how it works.

There are many exceptions to the tragic endings of human exploration of
Earth.

Tell me more...!

Just not many historically recorded ones.
Go ahead, Charles, can you take a STAB at just why that might be?

Stab? According to Webster's that's
1: a wound produced by a pointed weapon
2: a thrust of a pointed weapon
3: EFFORT 2 TRY [Middle English "stabbe"]

C.

Warning: Pompous Kraut asshole on the loose !!!

"Hagar" wrote in message
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"Darla" wrote in message
g.com...

snip Darla drivel

Thanks for the insight. But you have to lighten up, like take your OCD
meds.
You asked three very idiotic and hypothetical questions and I replied
in kind.

Proves that "Seans" are totally devoid of any sense of humor.
However, your inane rambling reveal a core of pure Liberalism.

Just for your info: to date we haven't even found a habitable exo-planet,
much
less figured out a way to get there. At the rate we are going, we won't
really
have to worry about it, since in all likelihood we'll do each other in,
long
before we can do it to anyone else.


More's the pity.

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:15:57 -0500, "Darla"
wrote:


I prefer people to be able to understand the technology - not simply use
it.

I agree, but when there is little time, 70 - 75 years or so, then this leads
to the age of the specialist.
Now you can see why people like to learn our way of extending the life span.
When one lives a long time, one has time to master a variety of tasks, each
one making her or him a more important asset to their society.

Like modern computers -- much of the technology of computing comes from
findings in quantum mechanics.
And yet humans still have little understanding of that minuscule area of
inquiry.
Most people figure that if they can turn the thing on and off, and usually
get what they want just by pressing a few buttons, that's all they need to
know.

Yes, this is exact the problem!

The engineers are, of course, more knowledgeable than the average person,
but as I said, even they have little understanding of much of the theory
behind what makes those computers make people go "WOW".

Nobody should be "allowed" to use a computer or a car without knowing
how it works.

Again we are in agreement, and again the very short life span of Earthbound
humans makes this implausible.

There are many exceptions to the tragic endings of human exploration of
Earth.

Tell me more...!

I would be very glad to, Charles!

Just not many historically recorded ones.
Go ahead, Charles, can you take a STAB at just why that might be?

Stab? According to Webster's that's
1: a wound produced by a pointed weapon
2: a thrust of a pointed weapon
3: EFFORT 2 TRY [Middle English "stabbe"]

C.

Just take a stabbe!

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

On Jan 7, 1:52*am, "Darla" wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message

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On Jan 6, 3:00 pm, "Darla" wrote:
"Mark Earnest" wrote in message

ca...

"Darla" wrote in message
ng.com...

"Mark Earnest" wrote in message
ernetamerica...
Five new Earth like planets were just discovered by NASA.

Why are they doing this? *Why are we looking for Earth like planets?

We can't get to them...at least we cannot with all the dumb
physicists
that cannot understand orbital mechanics well enough to know how to
get there.

So why bother finding exo planets?

To give SETI some focusing points?

Seti and the telescopic search for exo planets prove one thing to me,
and that is this: we want to find other planets and other life out
there
because we plan to go there some day.

Have you seen this plan?
It would be logical to assume that, if another living planet were found,
closer examination would be warranted.
Now, Mark, if life were found, then there would be three basic
possibilities
that you would discover when you get the

* *1. *life there would be more advanced in technology,

Beat a hasty retreat. *Hope they haven't taken notice of us. *Remember
that discretion is the better part of valor. *Plan ways of spying on
them to learn what we can.

* *2. *life there would be less advanced in technology,

Then take advantage of the opportunity to show our true nature as
humans: *Advance, conquer, rape, pillage, plunder, exploit, enslave,
despoil, take as many resources as we can make use of and destroy the
rest!

* *3. *life there would possess technology essentially equal to Earth's.

Shrewdly negotiate. *We don't want to challenge them,on their own
turf. *Since they are about equal to us, we might have to learn to
coexist. *Maybe we can skin them in a business deal / trade
agreement!

In each case, if you were giving the orders, how would you proceed?

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

Don't ever turn your back on a human, Darla. *Look what we've done to
our own kind!

Double-A

I do hope you meant to be funny, especially with situation number 2!


But doesn't that describe pretty well the human pattern in the past
when a more technologically advance culture has encountered a less
advanced culture? The conquest of the Americas by Europeans and
displacement of their less advanced inhabitants is the biggest and
best example.


Let's take a closer look at number 1:

* *1. *life there would be more advanced in technology,

Beat a hasty retreat. *Hope they haven't taken notice of us. *Remember
that discretion is the better part of valor. *Plan ways of spying on
them to learn what we can.

By the time you have gotten close enough to realize that society's higher
technology, they would in all probability have safeguards in place and are
already aware of you.
They would probably even be able to figure out where you hail from.
Suppose they decide just to monitor you and your ship to see what you will
do next.
Then you "beat a hasty retreat".
How do you suppose that other society would then categorize you?
They easily catch up to you and take you back to their planet.
You don't know whether they're benevolent or belligerent.

What do you do?

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!


You are right. It is a lose-lose situation whatever we do unless the
alien civilization turns out to be benevolent, and considers our
actions even at their baddest as capable of at most causing them an
annoyance.

Double-A

On Jan 6, 8:21*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Jan 6, 3:39*pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:





"BradGuth" wrote in message

...
On Jan 6, 2:41 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:

"Darla" wrote in message

ng.com...

"Mark Earnest" wrote in message
rnetamerica...
Five new Earth like planets were just discovered by NASA.

Why are they doing this? Why are we looking for Earth like planets?

We can't get to them...at least we cannot with all the dumb physicists
that cannot understand orbital mechanics well enough to know how to
get there.

So why bother finding exo planets?

To give SETI some focusing points?

Seti and the telescopic search for exo planets prove one thing to me,
and that is this: we want to find other planets and other life out there
because we plan to go there some day.

Or, perhaps we simply plan on being detected and eaten alive by hungry
ETs from such exoplanets.

According to our Darla Rothschild, there's lots of satanic bad ones
out there.

**If we were going to be eaten, it would almost certainly have happened to
the dinosaurs, who were here for tens of millions of years, rather than to
us, who were only here for a few thousand.

Perhaps an ET "happy meal" simply isn't kosher id it includes human
body parts.

Zionist/Jewish satanic rituals supposedly never directly consumed
human flesh, although some may have tried just for the fun of it.
Nowadays they just extract their various organs and resell them to the
highest bidders.

*~ BG


Come to think of it, can anyone find a passage in scripture, either
Christian or Jewish, where consumption of human flesh is prohibited?
Usually if something isn't specifically forbidden in scripture, we can
assume that God approves and encourages it!

Double-A

"Darla" wrote in message
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"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:15:57 -0500, "Darla"
wrote:


I prefer people to be able to understand the technology - not simply use
it.

I agree, but when there is little time, 70 - 75 years or so, then this
leads to the age of the specialist.
Now you can see why people like to learn our way of extending the life
span.
When one lives a long time, one has time to master a variety of tasks,
each one making her or him a more important asset to their society.

Like modern computers -- much of the technology of computing comes from
findings in quantum mechanics.
And yet humans still have little understanding of that minuscule area of
inquiry.
Most people figure that if they can turn the thing on and off, and
usually
get what they want just by pressing a few buttons, that's all they need
to
know.

Yes, this is exact the problem!

The engineers are, of course, more knowledgeable than the average person,
but as I said, even they have little understanding of much of the theory
behind what makes those computers make people go "WOW".

Nobody should be "allowed" to use a computer or a car without knowing
how it works.

Again we are in agreement, and again the very short life span of
Earthbound humans makes this implausible.

There are many exceptions to the tragic endings of human exploration of
Earth.

Tell me more...!

I would be very glad to, Charles!

Just not many historically recorded ones.
Go ahead, Charles, can you take a STAB at just why that might be?

Stab? According to Webster's that's
1: a wound produced by a pointed weapon
2: a thrust of a pointed weapon
3: EFFORT 2 TRY [Middle English "stabbe"]

C.

Just take a stabbe!

He first should practice on himself ... preferably with an ice pick ...

On Jan 7, 5:16*am, "Charles D. Bohne" wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:15:57 -0500, "Darla"
wrote:



Not at all, Charles!
After official contact, it is not just common, but actually CERTAIN that
humans can handle our technology.

Heavens beware! ;-

Within less than 800 years, they can generally master our technology and
become a truly crucial member of our build/explore affinity.

800 years is not enough time to prevent them from abusing it.

It is the easiest thing in the galaxy for humans to absorb that it is
"assertiveness" rather than "aggressiveness" that truly SPURS them on.
And assertiveness is highly respected in the universe!

It is?

Yes, there have been many times in the past explorations of humans that
ended tragically.

Fact!
Sometimes it was due to aggression from the higher technology, who wanted
things like gold and other wealth, sometimes tragedy would be accidental, as
in the explorers unknowingly inflicting a fatal microorganism on the
lesser-technology indigenous peoples, and sometimes it would be both.

Bringing the pest in woolen blankets hasn't been "accidental".

But we have seen otherwise, which is why we know that humans are also
capable of benevolence.

Must be their heritage from Neanderthal men ..

If we didn't know this for certain, we wouldn't waste time studying humans.

Well I would not call it a waste of time, rather "amusement" :-))

We would just do our duty, mainly to explore this area of the galaxy,
continue to view Earth as an oasis and take care of it, and wait to see how
human aggressiveness mixed with a quickly growing technology would
eventually end.

Ok.

This is a highly volatile condition, simply due to the fact that technology
generally precedes true understanding of that technology.
Societies can build things using trial and error, and when they've built
something that makes them go "WOW", it is only then that they try to
understand all the details about the construction.

I prefer people to be able to understand the technology - not simply use
it.

Like modern computers -- much of the technology of computing comes from
findings in quantum mechanics.
And yet humans still have little understanding of that minuscule area of
inquiry.
Most people figure that if they can turn the thing on and off, and usually
get what they want just by pressing a few buttons, that's all they need to
know.

Yes, this is exact the problem!

The engineers are, of course, more knowledgeable than the average person,
but as I said, even they have little understanding of much of the theory
behind what makes those computers make people go "WOW".

Nobody should be "allowed" to use a computer or a car without knowing
how it works.

There are many exceptions to the tragic endings of human exploration of
Earth.

Tell me more...!

Just not many historically recorded ones.
Go ahead, Charles, can you take a STAB at just why that might be?

Stab? According to Webster's that's
1: a wound produced by a pointed weapon
2: a thrust of a pointed weapon
3: EFFORT 2 TRY [Middle English "stabbe"]

C.

I think Darla and their Sean Rothschild friends would much rather
continue living large, and otherwise toying with us.

~ BG

On Jan 7, 10:27*am, "Darla" wrote:
"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in messagenews:iambk553qai54f6mcg10bmlgtg0d4dt1ea@pas oschweiz.de...

On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:15:57 -0500, "Darla"
wrote:

I prefer people to be able to understand the technology - not simply use
it.

I agree, but when there is little time, 70 - 75 years or so, then this leads
to the age of the specialist.
Now you can see why people like to learn our way of extending the life span.
When one lives a long time, one has time to master a variety of tasks, each
one making her or him a more important asset to their society.



Like modern computers -- much of the technology of computing comes from
findings in quantum mechanics.
And yet humans still have little understanding of that minuscule area of
inquiry.
Most people figure that if they can turn the thing on and off, and usually
get what they want just by pressing a few buttons, that's all they need to
know.

Yes, this is exact the problem!

The engineers are, of course, more knowledgeable than the average person,
but as I said, even they have little understanding of much of the theory
behind what makes those computers make people go "WOW".

Nobody should be "allowed" to use a computer or a car without knowing
how it works.

Again we are in agreement, and again the very short life span of Earthbound
humans makes this implausible.

There are many exceptions to the tragic endings of human exploration of
Earth.

Tell me more...!

I would be very glad to, Charles!

Just not many historically recorded ones.
Go ahead, Charles, can you take a STAB at just why that might be?

Stab? According to Webster's that's
1: a wound produced by a pointed weapon
2: a thrust of a pointed weapon
3: EFFORT 2 TRY [Middle English "stabbe"]

C.

Just take a stabbe!

That's so 4th grade of yourself, or is it a dysfunctional 5th grade
level you're at?

~ BG

On Jan 7, 11:14*am, Double-A wrote:
On Jan 7, 1:52*am, "Darla" wrote:



"Double-A" wrote in message

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On Jan 6, 3:00 pm, "Darla" wrote:
"Mark Earnest" wrote in message

ca...

"Darla" wrote in message
ng.com...

"Mark Earnest" wrote in message
ernetamerica...
Five new Earth like planets were just discovered by NASA.

Why are they doing this? *Why are we looking for Earth like planets?

We can't get to them...at least we cannot with all the dumb
physicists
that cannot understand orbital mechanics well enough to know how to
get there.

So why bother finding exo planets?

To give SETI some focusing points?

Seti and the telescopic search for exo planets prove one thing to me,
and that is this: we want to find other planets and other life out
there
because we plan to go there some day.

Have you seen this plan?
It would be logical to assume that, if another living planet were found,
closer examination would be warranted.
Now, Mark, if life were found, then there would be three basic
possibilities
that you would discover when you get the

* *1. *life there would be more advanced in technology,

Beat a hasty retreat. *Hope they haven't taken notice of us. *Remember
that discretion is the better part of valor. *Plan ways of spying on
them to learn what we can.

* *2. *life there would be less advanced in technology,

Then take advantage of the opportunity to show our true nature as
humans: *Advance, conquer, rape, pillage, plunder, exploit, enslave,
despoil, take as many resources as we can make use of and destroy the
rest!

* *3. *life there would possess technology essentially equal to Earth's.

Shrewdly negotiate. *We don't want to challenge them,on their own
turf. *Since they are about equal to us, we might have to learn to
coexist. *Maybe we can skin them in a business deal / trade
agreement!

In each case, if you were giving the orders, how would you proceed?

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

Don't ever turn your back on a human, Darla. *Look what we've done to
our own kind!

Double-A

I do hope you meant to be funny, especially with situation number 2!

But doesn't that describe pretty well the human pattern in the past
when a *more technologically advance culture has encountered a less
advanced culture? *The conquest of the Americas by Europeans and
displacement of their less advanced inhabitants is the biggest and
best example.



Let's take a closer look at number 1:

* *1. *life there would be more advanced in technology,

Beat a hasty retreat. *Hope they haven't taken notice of us. *Remember
that discretion is the better part of valor. *Plan ways of spying on
them to learn what we can.

By the time you have gotten close enough to realize that society's higher
technology, they would in all probability have safeguards in place and are
already aware of you.
They would probably even be able to figure out where you hail from.
Suppose they decide just to monitor you and your ship to see what you will
do next.
Then you "beat a hasty retreat".
How do you suppose that other society would then categorize you?
They easily catch up to you and take you back to their planet.
You don't know whether they're benevolent or belligerent.

What do you do?

--
**** Darla
Fear is Ice that freezes you solid.
Train to be fearless, and set yourself free!

You are right. *It is a lose-lose situation whatever we do unless the
alien civilization turns out to be benevolent, and considers our
actions even at their baddest as capable of at most causing them an
annoyance.

Double-A

Those Sean Rothschilds are not afraid of anything, except the truth.

~ BG

On Jan 7, 11:26*am, Double-A wrote:
On Jan 6, 8:21*pm, BradGuth wrote:



On Jan 6, 3:39*pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:

"BradGuth" wrote in message

....
On Jan 6, 2:41 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:

"Darla" wrote in message

ng.com...

"Mark Earnest" wrote in message
rnetamerica...
Five new Earth like planets were just discovered by NASA.

Why are they doing this? Why are we looking for Earth like planets?

We can't get to them...at least we cannot with all the dumb physicists
that cannot understand orbital mechanics well enough to know how to
get there.

So why bother finding exo planets?

To give SETI some focusing points?

Seti and the telescopic search for exo planets prove one thing to me,
and that is this: we want to find other planets and other life out there
because we plan to go there some day.

Or, perhaps we simply plan on being detected and eaten alive by hungry
ETs from such exoplanets.

According to our Darla Rothschild, there's lots of satanic bad ones
out there.

**If we were going to be eaten, it would almost certainly have happened to
the dinosaurs, who were here for tens of millions of years, rather than to
us, who were only here for a few thousand.

Perhaps an ET "happy meal" simply isn't kosher id it includes human
body parts.

Zionist/Jewish satanic rituals supposedly never directly consumed
human flesh, although some may have tried just for the fun of it.
Nowadays they just extract their various organs and resell them to the
highest bidders.

*~ BG

Come to think of it, can anyone find a passage in scripture, either
Christian or Jewish, where consumption of human flesh is prohibited?
Usually if something isn't specifically forbidden in scripture, we can
assume that God approves and encourages it!

Double-A

ZNRs and those Rothschilds approve of anything (no matters how satanic
or debauchery worthy) that keeps them rich and powerful. As others
and I've often said before; follow the money, as well as there's
usually a blood trail to follow.

~ BG