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Old April 6th 04, 04:43 AM
Allen Meece
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Jeffrey should have said something about the useless capsule design when we
have thirty years experience with winged orbiters. sheesh
If Constellation is a gumdrop-shaped spacecraft, it'll never be applicable
to civilian efforts for CATS because it'll need a darn chase boat to pick it up
and then salt water removal, etc. Useless for NGO's.
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Old April 6th 04, 05:01 AM
Allen Meece
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The re-entry capsule doesn't need to go
to the moon -
It does if it's the one with the engine :-) I think they're trying to use one
engine and one modular, *customizable* capsule for everything. Could work.
I just hope it'll have wings so it can be flown to an airport for landing.
That might make it applicable to civilian CATS designs, something the guv has
effectively managed to avoid.
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Old April 6th 04, 09:06 PM
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In article ,
Allen Meece wrote:
If Constellation is a gumdrop-shaped spacecraft, it'll never be applicable
to civilian efforts for CATS because it'll need a darn chase boat to pick it up
and then salt water removal, etc. Useless for NGO's.


It's useless for them anyway. It's a *government* *project*. And there
is no reason to believe that it will be either reusable or particularly
cheap.
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Old April 7th 04, 03:23 AM
Joann Evans
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Allen Meece wrote:

Jeffrey should have said something about the useless capsule design when we
have thirty years experience with winged orbiters. sheesh


*A* winged orbiter. We only know what the shuttle does. Next nearest
thing was the X-15. Experience with a variety of designs would be more
useful. at least there were three different US manned capsules.

If Constellation is a gumdrop-shaped spacecraft, it'll never be applicable
to civilian efforts for CATS because it'll need a darn chase boat to pick it up
and then salt water removal, etc. Useless for NGO's.


Right. But then no one is pretending it's CATS or a CATS precursor.
With the possible exception of the military (which, contrarary to your
past assertions, doesn't include NASA), your chances are greater at
seeing such a vehicle emerge from the civil sector, rather than
government.

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Old April 8th 04, 02:00 AM
Allen Meece
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It's a *government* *project*. [the planned CEV] And there is no reason to
believe that it will be either reusable or particularly cheap.
This is how nasa blocks CATS. It develops expensive space travel so the
general population thinks space is too expensive for civilians and loses
interest.
When a program looks like it may offer CATS, the guv cancels it before it
can be employed for practical use. [X-38, Transhab, et al]
Space is being blockaded by our own government. For national security
reasons, don't you know.
Thanks a lot, nasa, for the deception in not telling us what the deal really
is.
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