ET Contact Has Already Happened SETI - Even the Famed Skeptic Randi Can't Debunk

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
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The Henoch Prophecies
from the Billy Meier Contacts
So many of the Plejaren predictions given to Swiss contactee Billy Meier
have come true, that we'd be wise to heed the warning that terrible
things will befall humanity and our planet if we can't learn to live
together.

Billy Meier is a con artist, and Michael horn is milking it for all it's
worth.
For the actual FACTS of the case, go he

http://www.randi.org/jr/032604why.html


and he
http://www.iigwest.com/investigate.shtml in which they (independant of
Randi) are still waiting for Horn to deliver anything other than logical
fallacies.

and of course you *have* to wonder why Meier, and Horn want to charge money
to read the "evidence". Surely they would love to be proven once and for
all. Sadly, the "evidence" isn't available to any metalurgy laboratory.

Wally Anglesea wrote:

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
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The Henoch Prophecies
from the Billy Meier Contacts
So many of the Plejaren predictions given to Swiss contactee Billy Meier
have come true, that we'd be wise to heed the warning that terrible
things will befall humanity and our planet if we can't learn to live
together.


Billy Meier is a con artist, and Michael horn is milking it for all it's
worth.
For the actual FACTS of the case, go he

I don't have to. Randi failed to debunk Meier on a radio talk show.
All the listeners called in to say how Randi sounded like a mad man,
much like you.

Randi is a fraud of the first degree, and you buy his propaganda hook
line and sinker, no surprise there though, no one ever said you were a
sane individual.



http://www.randi.org/jr/032604why.html


and he
http://www.iigwest.com/investigate.shtml in which they (independant of
Randi) are still waiting for Horn to deliver anything other than logical
fallacies.

and of course you *have* to wonder why Meier, and Horn want to charge money
to read the "evidence". Surely they would love to be proven once and for
all. Sadly, the "evidence" isn't available to any metalurgy laboratory.


Randi claimed he could reproduce the video footage shot by Meier and to
this day, has failed to do so. Video footage which was analysed by a a
scientific team and declared to be authentic. Even Hollywood visual
effects masters said they would require over a million dollars to
reproduce the visual effects. Specialists in sound analysis were also
consulted and declared the sound recordings of the Pleiadian 'beam
ships' irreproducible. Yet the dumbass Wally declares all this a fake.

Why don't you just continue to do what you do best psychopath and blow
some more hot air for the all the other usenet psycho's to have a good
laugh.

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
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Randi claimed he could reproduce the video footage shot by Meier and to
this day, has failed to do so.

Because repoducing the PHOTOGRAPHS only shows that they *can* be reproduced

Video footage which was analysed by a a
scientific team and declared to be authentic.

NO, it as NOT analysed by a _scientific_ team.
They are no more scientific than the other kook groups you love.

What you also conveniently overlook, is that Meier and Horn refuse to
provide any physical evidence whatsoever, even though they claim they have
it in their posession.

They are frauds. Tell them I said so.


Even Hollywood visual
effects masters said they would require over a million dollars to
reproduce the visual effects. Specialists in sound analysis were also
consulted and declared the sound recordings of the Pleiadian 'beam
ships' irreproducible.

Which is pure nonsense. Any sound can be "reproduced".





Yet the dumbass Wally declares all this a fake.

I'll tell you why it's all fake in one simple sentence: The "prophecies"
and "science" claimed by Meier and Horn are laughable.

Wally Anglesea wrote:

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
ers.com...

Randi claimed he could reproduce the video footage shot by Meier and to
this day, has failed to do so.


Because repoducing the PHOTOGRAPHS only shows that they *can* be reproduced

Man you prove with every single response how low your IQ is. There is
way more than simple photographs there psycho.



Video footage which was analysed by a a
scientific team and declared to be authentic.


NO, it as NOT analysed by a _scientific_ team.

And how would you know psychopath, you seen the evidence presented by
Meier with your own eyes? Hahahhahahah

They are no more scientific than the other kook groups you love.


You really need to have your psychosis looked at by some professionals.



What you also conveniently overlook, is that Meier and Horn refuse to
provide any physical evidence whatsoever, even though they claim they have
it in their posession.

Evidence was already provided to scientific teams and analysed by
professional labs who are experts in metallurgy, sound and video and it
the evidence was declared authentic. But I am not surprised in the
least that you remain oblivious to those events.


They are frauds. Tell them I said so.

You really need to have your psychosis looked at. Tell them yourself,
their web sites are listed, what are you afraid they will see how you
obviously froth at the mouth.





Even Hollywood visual
effects masters said they would require over a million dollars to
reproduce the visual effects. Specialists in sound analysis were also
consulted and declared the sound recordings of the Pleiadian 'beam
ships' irreproducible.


Which is pure nonsense. Any sound can be "reproduced".

You just proved that you know very little of the technology of sound
waves. You really are a bore of the first degree. But don't ever
change, your ignorance and stupidity is actually quite amusing.








Yet the dumbass Wally declares all this a fake.


I'll tell you why it's all fake in one simple sentence: The "prophecies"
and "science" claimed by Meier and Horn are laughable.

Now, now, don't have an myocardial infarction.

"Wally Anglesea" wrote in message
...
SNIP
And by the way, just following up on this:




Yet the dumbass Wally declares all this a fake.

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8148/scam.html

Aww, Underground Video, who set out to *support* meier, showed him up as a
fake.


and from that site:
"The Meier photograph of the beautiful Pleiadian alien, Semjase, turned out
to be a photocopy of a model from a Sears Catalog. Another one of Meier's
photographs, where he allegedly traveled into the future aboard a Pleiadian
Beamship to photograph the aftermath of a 9.0 earthquake in San Francisco
showing the toppled Trans-America building, turned out to be a realistic
looking painting from a geology magazine article about earthquakes. On top
of these damning examples, every single one of Billy Meier's photographs of
Pleiadian ships have been shown to be of third, fourth and even fifth
generation(photographs of photographs) This means the he likely airbrushed
suspension wires and other signs of fraud. There is not one example of an
original, first generation Billy Meier photograph. On top of that, it has
been shown that the reflections on some of the Pleiadian ships are not
consistent with the position of the sun, indicating possible superimposition
techniques. To top it off, a reporter found a bunch of miniature models
exactly matching many of the Pleiadian ships shown in his photos. His
ex-wife has come out to denounce him as a fraud as well. The evidence is
overwhelming that whole Billy Meier story is unquestionably, absolutely,
completely and totally 100% BOGUS. Case Closed!"



Poor MS. He should think before he posts whacky claims.

Wally Anglesea wrote:

"Wally Anglesea" wrote in message
...
SNIP
And by the way, just following up on this:




Yet the dumbass Wally declares all this a fake.


http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8148/scam.html

Aww, Underground Video, who set out to *support* meier, showed him up as a
fake.

Again you demonstrate quite a low IQ in this matter. It is rather
amusing really.



and from that site:
"The Meier photograph of the beautiful Pleiadian alien, Semjase, turned out
to be a photocopy of a model from a Sears Catalog. Another one of Meier's
photographs, where he allegedly traveled into the future aboard a Pleiadian
Beamship to photograph the aftermath of a 9.0 earthquake in San Francisco
showing the toppled Trans-America building, turned out to be a realistic
looking painting from a geology magazine article about earthquakes.

These 'examples' are nothing but lies, which you obviously fall for.


On top
of these damning examples, every single one of Billy Meier's photographs of
Pleiadian ships have been shown to be of third, fourth and even fifth
generation(photographs of photographs) This means the he likely airbrushed
suspension wires and other signs of fraud. There is not one example of an
original, first generation Billy Meier photograph.

The photographs and video footage have all been given to scientific
teams including the metal samples and they were all stolen by people
like you and never returned.


On top of that, it has
been shown that the reflections on some of the Pleiadian ships are not
consistent with the position of the sun, indicating possible superimposition
techniques.

Your low IQ is rather amusing. Don't ever change.

To top it off, a reporter found a bunch of miniature models
exactly matching many of the Pleiadian ships shown in his photos. His
ex-wife has come out to denounce him as a fraud as well. The evidence is
overwhelming that whole Billy Meier story is unquestionably, absolutely,
completely and totally 100% BOGUS. Case Closed!"

The scientific team made some models to demonstrate the difference
between real video footage and fake video footage there psychopath. The
rest of your story is nothing but allegations and lies.




Poor MS. He should think before he posts whacky claims.

Poor Dumabassea, frothing at the mouth only proves how psychotic you are.

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
gers.com...
SNIP

Evidence was already provided to scientific teams and analysed by
professional labs who are experts in metallurgy, sound and video and it
the evidence was declared authentic. But I am not surprised in the
least that you remain oblivious to those events.

Then what a pity about this:

"After six months of intense inquiry, with the assistance of
cinematographers, physicists, and computer analysts from TotalResearch, we
found the claims of the representatives of the Meier case to absolutely
untrue. We discovered miniature models, and a variety of deceptive methods
used to create this hoax. Additionally, an undercover "hidden camera"
investigation penetrated the Meier cult in Switzerland, revealing
irrefutable scientific evidence of FRAUD.
Underground Video was one of the foremost defenders of the Meier material.
We are DISAPPOINTED to now learn the ENTIRE case is a hoax. Representations
of any authenticity with regard to this case made by alleged scientific
examination has proved to be totally unreliable and misleads the general
public into believing a carefully fabricated lie. The persons who
authenitcated the Meier case are not credible scientists nor investigators."



http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8148/scam.html



Besides, the "science" that these mythical pliedieans present is laugahble.
By the way, Vega might be "in" Lyra as visible from Earth, but the other
stars in Lyra are at a variety of distances, between about a hundred, and
900 light years. Which Billy forgot when he started spouting about "Lyrans"

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 04:00:51 GMT, "Wally Anglesea"
wrote:

"Poor Little Mad Scientist" wrote in message
t.cable.rogers.com...
The Henoch Prophecies
from the Billy Meier Contacts
So many of the Plejaren predictions given to Swiss contactee Billy Meier
have come true, that we'd be wise to heed the warning that terrible
things will befall humanity and our planet if we can't learn to live
together.
************************************************** **************
Billy Meier is a con artist, and Michael horn is milking it for all it's
worth.
For the actual FACTS of the case, go he
http://www.randi.org/jr/032604why.html
and he
http://www.iigwest.com/investigate.shtml in which they (independant of
Randi) are still waiting for Horn to deliver anything other than logical
fallacies.
WALLY A.:
**************************
Well, golly gee!
Surely little Michael Horn, with his Amazing! Astounding! claims that
he has "other-worldly" metal, has turned it over for the $1-Million
prize????
What?
You mean he hasn't?
But, if it is analyzed in a lab and verified then, he gets to collect
loads of money and gets bragging rights...
And he still hasn't done so?
---Mac

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
et.cable.rogers.com...


Wally Anglesea wrote:

"Wally Anglesea" wrote in
message
...
SNIP
And by the way, just following up on this:




Yet the dumbass Wally declares all this a fake.


http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8148/scam.html

Aww, Underground Video, who set out to *support* meier, showed him up as
a
fake.

Again you demonstrate quite a low IQ in this matter. It is rather
amusing really.



and from that site:
"The Meier photograph of the beautiful Pleiadian alien, Semjase, turned
out
to be a photocopy of a model from a Sears Catalog. Another one of
Meier's
photographs, where he allegedly traveled into the future aboard a
Pleiadian
Beamship to photograph the aftermath of a 9.0 earthquake in San
Francisco
showing the toppled Trans-America building, turned out to be a realistic
looking painting from a geology magazine article about earthquakes.

These 'examples' are nothing but lies, which you obviously fall for.

Wierd. A group that set out to *support* Billy and his claims, where honest
when they found out he's a con artist.

Face it, another of your fantasies was easily shown to be just that, a
fantasy.


On top
of these damning examples, every single one of Billy Meier's photographs
of
Pleiadian ships have been shown to be of third, fourth and even fifth
generation(photographs of photographs) This means the he likely
airbrushed
suspension wires and other signs of fraud. There is not one example of
an
original, first generation Billy Meier photograph.

The photographs and video footage have all been given to scientific
teams including the metal samples and they were all stolen by people
like you and never returned.

Convenient, isn't it?
Your *evidence* is faulty, and shown to be a hoax. Just like everything
else you believe in.



You aren't a Raelian by any chance? Last time I looked, Claude was in
Canada. Is there something in the water you drink?

"Mac" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 04:00:51 GMT, "Wally Anglesea"
wrote:

"Poor Little Mad Scientist" wrote in message
t.cable.rogers.com...
The Henoch Prophecies
from the Billy Meier Contacts
So many of the Plejaren predictions given to Swiss contactee Billy
Meier
have come true, that we'd be wise to heed the warning that terrible
things will befall humanity and our planet if we can't learn to live
together.
************************************************** **************
Billy Meier is a con artist, and Michael horn is milking it for all it's
worth.
For the actual FACTS of the case, go he
http://www.randi.org/jr/032604why.html
and he
http://www.iigwest.com/investigate.shtml in which they (independant of
Randi) are still waiting for Horn to deliver anything other than logical
fallacies.
WALLY A.:
**************************
Well, golly gee!
Surely little Michael Horn, with his Amazing! Astounding! claims that
he has "other-worldly" metal, has turned it over for the $1-Million
prize????
What?
You mean he hasn't?
But, if it is analyzed in a lab and verified then, he gets to collect
loads of money and gets bragging rights...
And he still hasn't done so?

Nope, and he probably never will. After all, there's always a True Believer
to scam more money off.
One wonders how much money MS has tossed down the toilet on such silly
beliefs.