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Thesis on MacDougall Space and the Astral Form part 2
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This is lovely, but it is no where near reality. Reality, is such that in order for an individual thinking person, to be an indiviudal, in a universe that all connected, it is necessary for indiviudals to be deprived of some information. That is to say, that unless a person is isolated, and his consciousness isolated into an individual, he or she cannot be separate from lets say, Gaia. The planet itself. As the earth from a distance, would look like a funny looking creature with skin, and we are part of that skin. We assume the planet itself, has no collective consciousness. Why is that? We have never met her. Yet some of us actually have. Further as well, the universe as a whole, is nothing more than a series of laws. Look at the machinery itself. Waves in some substance we cannot detect. People are programmed to believe in particles. here is a partcle according to the definition of physics. xyzt (I am not making this up) A point particle, is a mathmatical construct. Never has any solid amterial ever been found. Material we like to believe is solid, because it can deflect other waves shot at it at very high energies, but not solid as in little pieces of rock. Sure we posit that at the center of black holes there may be a singulariy. An acyual solid something. But we do not know it is only a theory, and it may just a well not be solid either. So what we have, are waves. Not slow rollers on the ocean. High speed high energy waves. We can call them particles, if we freeze the frame of reference. That is to say, that xyzt is not moving. It is a particle. In reality, nothing ever stops moving and the waves keep rolling along. Current theory dictates that the universe began with the big bang. That is what cause the waves and these tiny eddies we call atoms are a product from the original explosion, or also from other subsequent explosions such as super novae. A tiny little contained eddy. That is an atom. With the force of the big bang or other gigantic explosion still feeding it. The element itself, locked into a frequency. Each element, locked into a SPECIFIC frequency. Each element being divisible, by the frequency of Hydrogen. There are no elements that are not in this scale, in our known universe. What makes things individual such as why copper is not a copper/brass/cheese/half-hydrogen blend is because copper atoms have a distinct frequency. There are no half atoms. It is as if, the entire universe is like a TV. A three dimensional TV. A holodeck. We believe that the universe began with the big bang because of the red shift of galaxies. Hubble et al. That is the sole basis for this belief. The red shift may be caused by something else entirely, in which case the big bang theory would be false. But just as people like to imagine that God with his sense of humour blinks dinosaur bones into the earth for fun, we have no way of proving he does not. In fact, the universe itself, in many doctrines, is a conscious universe. Reality, is his doing. We exist in the consciousness of God. We are a smaller consciousness, which has senses to give us the feeling of reality. Hardness softness wetness etc, following the laws of physics, and subject not only to those physical laws, but also subject to other rules and laws and themes and paths, and time lines, which together make up a life as we know it. When we sleep, and when we are not aware, not consciously aware, for all intents and purposes, we do not exist. Yet, we believe that when we wake, life will be as it was when we fell asleep. That the universe will continue to act predictably, according to laws. Look at DNA. It is programming. Look at plant growth. Fractal algorythms. Clouds - same. As seen by anyone who has used or seen a high quality flight simulator. Here is an example if you haven't... http://www3.telus.net/webshrinker/wo...eanIsland.html This is in two dimensions. In three dimensions, immersed into the waves themselves, and as part of the very substance of that projection, you would have reality as we know it. Does that make it any less real or any less painful or any less pleasurable? No, not at all. That is just what life is. But when we dream, we are free. Below you are quoting Mark. Brother (I am assuming you are a brother not a sista please try to keep up so that we are all on the same page. We are at Revelations 21:21 where 21 and 21 = 42 Where there are 12 gates, and each gate as one pearl, and each time they go through one on Stargate SG1 it makes me wonder why they don't just come out and tell us what they know, instead of speaking in rhymes and riddles and making us watch all those commercials. The pearly gates. As someone said recently, there is light at the end of the tunnel, and a gate to a place, that may just be the heaven we have always searched for. Wouldn't it be nice, to go home now. But as far as the theory below, It is common for people to look at the work of others in their time. Like Einstein looked at Maxwell, and etc back to a botanist named Browning who observed in a microscope, (a rather new invention at the time), little things seemed to be shooting little things at each other, causing the little things to move about. From there, n-dimensional space was realized. Although it took a further 50 or so years to get into theory as SR and GR. As far as your comment below about hippies and godliness, the universe we live in, is a person. And he has a name. It is not Zeus, the King of Gods. It is the Lord King High God of the Universe. He is and does everything. He said so himself. And after he spun the moon for me, I believed him. We have a saying. We the people of *is* And that is, "Don't be surprised, if one day, your thing doesn't work, and it was him, doing it all along." :-) Thesis on MacDougall Space and the Astral Form. Part 2 The Good News According to Mark 13,10 The Good News must first be preached to all the nations. When they lead you away and deliver you up, don't be anxious beforehand, or premeditate what you will say, but say whatever will be given you in that hour. For it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit. MacDougall writes; "The essential thing is that there must be a substance as the basis of continuing personal identity and consciousness, for without space-occupying substance, personality or a continuing conscious ego after bodily death is unthinkable." In MacDougall Space, itself a form or hyper-form if you like no thing ever comes from nothing but all things are built from forms. In MacDougalls original 1907 thesis form from nothing as per QM is precluded by supposition [2]. That is not to say that all of QM is erroneous but just that MacDougall Space is totally embracing, it is the super-space-form of all space-form, a hyper form. So-called space-time (a super-form) and false vacuum yet another example of a super-form are "inferior" to the hyper-form. In this rationale it is clear that the MacDougal Space form must have pre-existed in order for any BB to manifest. Incidently space-time is not actually a single super-form per se. It is a result of two super-forms, space and time. The time super-form unlike any other form is "constructed" entirely of specialized time-form linking hooks only. Space-forms and matter-forms may have time-form linking hooks in addition to whatever other hooks they have. Consider if the time-form was exclusively a part of the space-form as in the erroneously hypothesised "space-time" then how could other forms exclusively lock with the time super-form? Quantum entanglement could not happen without an independant time super-form. The Copenhagen interpretation could not be possible without an independant time super-form. You get the picture. "According to the latest conception of science, substance, or space-occupying material, is divisible into that which is gravitative, solids, liquids, gases, all having weight, and the ether which is nongravitative. It seemed impossible to me that the soul substance could consist of the ether. If the conception is true that ether is continuous and not to be conceived of as existing or capable of existing in separate masses, we have here the most solid ground for believing that the soul substance we are seeking is not ether, because one of the very first attributes of personal identity is the quality of separateness." So, MacDougall stuck inside 19th Century physics considers the aether (a super-form) and concludes that the soul or Astral form being discrete cannot be of the all pervading superform aether variety. Very astute of him. So much for the "super-conscious" or communal all pervading variety of "godliness" favoured by hippies and some eastern dogmas. "Nothing is more borne in upon consciousness, than that the ego is detached and separate from all things else - the nonego. We are therefore driven back upon the assumption that the soul substance so necessary to the conception of continuing personal identity, after the death of this material body, must still be a form of gravitative matter, or perhaps a middle form of substance neither gravitative matter or ether, not capable of being weighed, and yet not identical with ether." Ok so MacDougall admits he doesn't know exactly what type of "matter" his "continuing personal identity" the Astral Form takes. As previously described in part 1 this is purely a function of hooks that a form presents to other forms. Consider three different forms A,B and C. Forms A and B may interelate with each other in a way that is different to that which A and C may relate. Take magnetic and non-magnetic materials as a simple illustration of how forms may provide different hooks. Whether one form detects another form is entirely a function of what hooks they have or "share" between them. "Since however the substance considered in our hypothesis is linked organically with the body until death takes place, it appears to me more reasonable to think that it must be some form of gravitative matter, and therefore capable of being detected at death by weighing a human being in the act of death." Organic human forms are well endowed with "mass" hooks and it is no surprise that MacDougall should have looked there first in his attempts to locate the human soul, the Astral Form. In the next part I shall describe MacDougalls experiments where he determines the weight (in Earths gravity) of the Astral Form. End of part 2 Majestik -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBP65bO8BO8F5oxeKZEQIVwACgmSA0i9lCLZbEI9zPlmW59S qN0FEAoMX+ 86VUq5ufiNKOVm4ZH3jMLjJf =Jx0p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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But of course the crucial issue, is not so much
consciousness, as we are convinced, that lives on as spirit. Some aren't. Simply because they have not experienced it, and it is understandable completely to not believe until you have experienced it for yourself. Only by experience can anyone become convinced. But what is the imortant part, is not what happens to your consciousness but rather what happens to your memories. You may live on, even your personality, may live on, but what about the relationships you had in the past? Are they not as important to who you are as your consciousness? I would say that only a selfish person, would care about his own continued existence. But to continue to be able to know, and communicate with, and interact with, those you love, that is the important thing. When you die, if you are no longer conscious, then you won't be aware of it. If you live again, reincarnate but remember nothing, then you might as well not be reicarnated but rather make new people every time. So we look at people with Alzheimers, and we say, they are sick, their brains are deteriorating and they do not remember. Does that mean that memories are stored in the brain? It leads us to believe that is the case, but there are other possible explanations. We prefer to believe that the memories are not stored in the human brain, but are stored elsewhere. Only in that way, could a person retain any memory of the past. Many people claim to know who they were in past lives. The Dali Lamas for instance. They must choose their belongings out of a large pile of stuff before they can be authenticated as a child. There is also plenty of scientific evidence for reincarnation. Icluding scars passed on from one life to the next, combined with distinct verifiable memories of past lives. My life, isn't like the lives of others, so my testimonials woouldn't really do anyone any good. You will never come to truly believe anything, unless you convince yourself after having experiences. But I will tell you that I do know angels, and Gods and other people I have known from long before I was born. It is not even unusual for us. But if ordinary people knew they lived on, they might off themselves at the first sign of hardship, or off themselves to get to paradise, if they were convinced that was where they were headed. But the memory issue. That is the big issue from a scientific perspective. As a believer, I can put my trust in God, and expect that my memories will be preserved as well as my relationships. Not all. Only the relationships, that I have with my own kind. Not everyone on this earth, is of the same type of person. People are here in groups. To find yourself in someone elses group would not be pleasant. You would be like a fish out of water. Each to their own kind. Is the rule. Birds of a feather, flock together, and all that. :-) An example being the difference being between a true love relationship, and an arranged marriage. What is it, that makes a true love relationship? It is the harmony of like with like. By design. It is not restricted to a soul mate. It is possible within your own kind, and not restricted to one indiviudal. There is a certain something gained, by a person who wants just one special soul mate and just the two of them to be a couple and to love each other only. Just as when a person feels jealousy, that is also a form of flattery for the mate. It means they love them and want them for their very own. But it can also mean they want to own them. There is no reson why, that true love relationship, cannot be extended beyond one person, to a small group. And from there in varying degrees to a larger group. That is when you really feel like you are amongst friends. That is when you really feel like you belong. Without love relationships, life would just be work. It would be mechanical, and without purpose. Sadly some people probably go through life like that. Just as some people go through life, never once experiencing anything strange bizarre or unusual. Never once coming into contact with an angel, or a God. Never once getting a glimpse of another world. Never once so much as seeing the world as anything but pure nuts and bolts. Only a very small part of existence, is in the nuts and bolts. When the scales drop off your eyes, or when you find yourself like Archimedes running naked down the street shouting Eureka!, or when cry and laugh and cry and laugh at the same time, or when you actually experience the reality of the spirit, and the veil of MAya is lifted, then your world becomes magnified a thousand fold. But fall into true love. And who cares what it is all about, as long as you are together. Nothing else matters. And what a wonderful thing it is too. Life is not just 'if' It is two or more good friends contemplating what 'if' means, and etc. The best things in life are indeed free. But in my notes. In my own hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, like the one of Douglas Adams, I will put a note in the margin for earth. "Come here rich and good looking or don't come alone" Because on earth you need a head start. If you are born with a head start, then earth can be a paradise. Be born an untouchable, and it can be hell. Gee look at the time. I am rambling on. Sorry, I seem to be writing a thesis. |
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