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Old August 12th 05, 04:26 PM
Bill Sheppard
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From Painius:

So if the spatial medium were not
accelerating, then we would what? float
away? I'm not sure i understand why a
spatial flow that is not accelerating, but
only traveling at a constant speed, would not impart a force to be met

by matter's
resistance. Why is force only imparted
when the spatial flow is accelerating?


Well, let's first consider what atomic structure may truly be, and what
it isn't.

The mainstream idea is that atoms are discrete particles individuated
against the backdrop of the "void". An alternative idea is that atoms
are _processes_ IN and OF an underlying medium, much as the eddies and
whorls in a river are processes of the river.

Let's just for a moment say "what if" the alternatative view is the
correct one. Atoms are embedded, vortice-like processes in and of the
spatial medium.

Under this model, let's look at the most extreme example of
gravititational acceleration- the 'spagettification' you'd experience
falling into a black hole**. This extreme stretching is obviously
occuring at the atomic level, as the forward end of each atom is being
accelerated faster than its trailing end. Since the atom is a process in
the medium, it experiences the same accelerational gradient as the
medium it's embedded in, and thus is forced to "go with" the
accelerating flow.

Now scale back this extreme example to the 'normal' gravity we experiece
here on terra firma. The same accelerational gradient is at work on all
our constituent atoms, but at a greatly diminished level.

Hopefully this has expanded upon the Lindner-Shifman explanation of the
accelerational gradient ('tension') by which momentum is imparted (and
why a non-accelerating flow does not impart momentum).
Lindner-Shifman do not clearly grasp the concept of an
atom as a process in and of the spatial medium; they think in terms of
the atom AND the medium.
______

** Spagettification would occur with a traditional few-solar-mass BH,
not a supermassive BH. With the latter, you would not experience any
signifigant stretching as you fall in.

oc

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Old August 13th 05, 01:31 AM
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"Bill Sheppard" wrote in message
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From Painius:

So if the spatial medium were not
accelerating, then we would what? float
away? I'm not sure i understand why a
spatial flow that is not accelerating, but
only traveling at a constant speed, would not impart a force to be met

by matter's
resistance. Why is force only imparted
when the spatial flow is accelerating?


Well, let's first consider what atomic structure may truly be, and what
it isn't.

The mainstream idea is that atoms are discrete particles individuated
against the backdrop of the "void". An alternative idea is that atoms
are _processes_ IN and OF an underlying medium, much as the eddies and
whorls in a river are processes of the river.


Oh Oh Oh ,
is this this the one where Wolter or Shiffner or Lindner or someone says
that the flowing space wraps around leptons and turns them like non magical
sky pixie things into hadrons. ?

Is that right ?

I think you said something like that once. Changed your mind yet, old coot?




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Old August 13th 05, 02:05 AM
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"Bill Sheppard" wrote in message
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From Painius, re. the reality of the spatial medium, FS gravity etc.:

As was heliocentric theory before
Copernicus mathed it and Galileo proved it.


As stated before, Paine, the spatial mediium proves itself. It declares
its existance, and demonstrates its nature by its bounty of effects,
which include:

1. The high, fixed propagation speed of light.


No reason why this should follow apart from an insistence that there has to
be a medium.

2. The behavior of gravity as a pressure-driven, accelerating flow.


Except that most people would insist that this supposed medium behaved like
a real medium, which kinda rules out ALL THE OBSERVED EFFECTS OF RELATIVITY
which have been obvserved down to parts per billion precision. Lets state
that again. ACCURATE MEASUREMENTS HAVE PROVEN THE OPPOSITE OF Flowing Space.

3. The property of hyperfluidity, demonstrated in the laws of
inertia and momentum, and in gravity-acceleration equivalence.

The only 'Galileo's Tool' we need is the natural 'headset' residing
between our ears - to simply observe What Is.

"Faith" be *****'ed. Hrrrumph :-). oc


If the flowing halfwit model fits comfortably between your ears I suppose
there's not a lot more that can be said to you.

If your best argument against logic, observation and reason is that 'dur, i
think it is true', then I guess there's not a lot of point in arguing the
point. .


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Old August 14th 05, 03:04 PM
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Bill Sheppard wrote:

From Painius:


So if the spatial medium were not
accelerating, then we would what? float
away? I'm not sure i understand why a
spatial flow that is not accelerating, but
only traveling at a constant speed, would not impart a force to be met


by matter's

resistance. Why is force only imparted
when the spatial flow is accelerating?



Well, let's first consider what atomic structure may truly be, and what
it isn't.

The mainstream idea is that atoms are discrete particles individuated
against the backdrop of the "void". An alternative idea is that atoms
are _processes_ IN and OF an underlying medium, much as the eddies and
whorls in a river are processes of the river.

Let's just for a moment say "what if" the alternatative view is the
correct one. Atoms are embedded, vortice-like processes in and of the
spatial medium.

Under this model, let's look at the most extreme example of
gravititational acceleration- the 'spagettification' you'd experience
falling into a black hole**. This extreme stretching is obviously
occuring at the atomic level, as the forward end of each atom is being
accelerated faster than its trailing end. Since the atom is a process in
the medium, it experiences the same accelerational gradient as the
medium it's embedded in, and thus is forced to "go with" the
accelerating flow.

Now scale back this extreme example to the 'normal' gravity we experiece
here on terra firma. The same accelerational gradient is at work on all
our constituent atoms, but at a greatly diminished level.

Hopefully this has expanded upon the Lindner-Shifman explanation of the
accelerational gradient ('tension') by which momentum is imparted (and
why a non-accelerating flow does not impart momentum).
Lindner-Shifman do not clearly grasp the concept of an
atom as a process in and of the spatial medium; they think in terms of
the atom AND the medium.
______

** Spagettification would occur with a traditional few-solar-mass BH,
not a supermassive BH. With the latter, you would not experience any
signifigant stretching as you fall in.

oc


"The discovery means that for decades scientists have been severely
underestimating how much power black holes pump back into the universe
instead of merely swallowing material across their event horizons."

"Contrary to established scientific thinking, you'd be roasted and not
"spaghettified" if you stumbled into a supermassive black hole."

Check out these links for more information:

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/blackhole-05u.html
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/blackhole-05s.html
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0222195058.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0805104705.htm

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Old August 14th 05, 03:39 PM
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Bill Sheppard wrote:

From Painius:


Now, a minute amount of this flow goes
INTO us,..



We've hashed this all before, if you remember. But to re-hash it :-), as
the size scale goes up, whether Cheyenne Mountain, an asteroid, a moon,
a planet, the less flow passes through it and the more goes INTO it.
'Frinstance take the Earth-moon system. each body is
gravitating in the 'reverse starburst' flow pattern. Each is a
full-blown sink, with its inflow driven by the hyperpressurized state of
the medium. Thus there is lower pressure between the two bodies, and
higher pressure from 'behind', which is literally shoving the two bodles
toward each other. (And Bert take note, this is not the LeSage model,
because LeSage never recognized hyperpressurization as the CAUSE of the
push.)

At the size scale of gravitating bodies, one's flow does not pass
*through* the other as it does at the scale of a human, a locomotive, or
even Cheyenne Mountain.
At the size scale of gravitating bodies, the
"attraction" between them is entirely the pressure-driven PUSH from
behind (and yes, the flow going into both bodies is accelerating).

And this brings up another point - the anomalous acceleration of the
Pioneer spacecraft. As it leaves the heliosphere, it's still clearly
within the Sun's gravity well, but beyond the 'noise' perturbations of
planets in their orbits. Out in this pristine gravitational environment,
the spacecraft's velocity is deviating ever so slightly from what it
"should" be. What could be causing this? Could it be the
pressure/density gradient of the Sun's gravity well? Certainly not, if
space is a "void".
oc


"Aristotle (384-322 BC) taught that the physical world was made up of
four elements: air, earth, fire and water. Tying these all together (so
that the "elements" intercommunicated) was a "subtle" medium, a fifth
element--the aether--later to be known as the vacuum. (Latin: vacuus,
empty). In a sense the aether was the substratum of the material world.
The Greeks believed that "nature abhors a vacuum" so they could not
imagine space as being totally empty."

"If all the air molecules are pumped out of a chamber, the chamber still
contains residual radiation (electromagnetic noise from stars, x-rays,
and heat radiation). Even before quantum mechanics, it was shown by
classical radiation theory that if the temperature of the container is
lowered to absolute zero, there remains a residual amount of thermal
energy that can not by any means be removed. This residual energy in an
empty container at absolute zero, was named "zero-point energy" (ZPE)."

Australian Astronomer Barry Setterfield has, in the past year, picked up
on this latest theory of the vacuum to explain the red shift of light
from distant galaxies. Arizona astronomer William Tifft's research has
recently shown that red-lifted light from the stars is quantized--this
turns out to be also related to ZPE. Setterfield's new model also takes
into account the evidence that the velocity of light is not a fixed
constant. Setterfield concludes that the universe is not expanding at
all, (as the Big Bang model has long supposed) but is static (it has a
fixed diameter). The original energy input of outside energy on Day Two
of creation--when God stretched out the firmament to its maximum
expanse--accounts for the red-shift and the subsequent velocity of light
decrease!

Setterfield has also provided a rough calculation at the rate at which
"outside" energy from the "vacuum" would have to be fed into the
universe per square meter per second if Hal Putoff is correct and
electrons orbiting the nucleus do radiate energy after all. The
compensatory energy that must be constantly supplied from the vacuum is
a staggering 1.071 X 10117 kilowatts per square meter! (In scientific
notion that is 10 followed by 117 zeroes, kilowatts per square meter).

Mo
http://www.ldolphin.org/update.html
http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/L...ers/Setter.pdf

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Old August 14th 05, 04:14 PM
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To SCPlasma:

DANGER WILL ROBINSON. Major caveat when you go citing Barry Setterfield.
He is a big-time biblical creationist whose agenda is to "prove" the
literal Genesis creation account. He will cite mainstreamers like
Magueijo, Barrow, Moffatt, and Troitskii who are legimately questioning
universal c-invariance, to bolster his particular agenda.
Here's his literal chronology idea. Notice he has the
creartion event pegged at 5792 BC, and lightspeed originally at 10.6
million times its present value. www.ldolphin.org/chronbarry.html

He cites numerous legitimate sources, but remember his true agenda. oc

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Old August 14th 05, 07:14 PM
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Bill Sheppard wrote:

To SCPlasma:

DANGER WILL ROBINSON. Major caveat when you go citing Barry Setterfield.
He is a big-time biblical creationist whose agenda is to "prove" the
literal Genesis creation account. He will cite mainstreamers like
Magueijo, Barrow, Moffatt, and Troitskii who are legimately questioning
universal c-invariance, to bolster his particular agenda.
Here's his literal chronology idea. Notice he has the
creartion event pegged at 5792 BC, and lightspeed originally at 10.6
million times its present value. www.ldolphin.org/chronbarry.html

He cites numerous legitimate sources, but remember his true agenda. oc


Point taken. I think creationism and scientific cosmology can be
unified, but definitely not with the present fundamentalist notion of a
'linear 6-24 hr day week' nor with a '6000 year old beginning' of
civilization and the universe for that matter. Personally, such talk is
truly ridiculous.

However two types of science seem evident, when comparing scientific
mythology of the ancients to present day non-spiritual scientific
theories. One which could be called a 'fallen science' and one which
could be called a 'divine science'.

The keys to higher knowledge have been kept hidden from the world since
the so-called Fall of Adam and Eve, which finalized a corrupted form in
the 'confusion of language' at the so-called 'Tower of Babel'. (this
tower was a 'space needle' developed to communicate with
extraterrestrials according to one archeological and anthropological
expert) This 'confusion of language' included 'scientific language and
scientific knowlege'. Thus the world from a scientific point of view
remains 'confused' about how to bring together all the scientific
languages or 'tongues', and disciplines into a unified whole.

Even the world of astronomy remains under the hypnotic spell of a
'fallen scientific language' structure, whereby two chief theories form
a systematic mind control-like propaganda - namely a) that human beings
evolved from primitive life forms, and b) there is no higher universes,
in the plural, that we, as human kind can connect with. With these
two fallen thought forms, mankind is totally unable to develop not only
faster than light speed travel, but also unable to develop a form of
recipricol interstellar communication whereby radio and light signals
are decoded from the interstellar medium. And by this, I truly mean
that extraterrestrial populations are already sending radio and light
signals to the earth, but such messages only appear to the scientific
bodies of our age, as 'random noise'.




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Old August 14th 05, 09:43 PM
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nightbat wrote

SuperCool Plasma wrote:

Bill Sheppard wrote:

From Painius:


Now, a minute amount of this flow goes
INTO us,..



We've hashed this all before, if you remember. But to re-hash it :-), as
the size scale goes up, whether Cheyenne Mountain, an asteroid, a moon,
a planet, the less flow passes through it and the more goes INTO it.
'Frinstance take the Earth-moon system. each body is
gravitating in the 'reverse starburst' flow pattern. Each is a
full-blown sink, with its inflow driven by the hyperpressurized state of
the medium. Thus there is lower pressure between the two bodies, and
higher pressure from 'behind', which is literally shoving the two bodles
toward each other. (And Bert take note, this is not the LeSage model,
because LeSage never recognized hyperpressurization as the CAUSE of the
push.)

At the size scale of gravitating bodies, one's flow does not pass
*through* the other as it does at the scale of a human, a locomotive, or
even Cheyenne Mountain.
At the size scale of gravitating bodies, the
"attraction" between them is entirely the pressure-driven PUSH from
behind (and yes, the flow going into both bodies is accelerating).

And this brings up another point - the anomalous acceleration of the
Pioneer spacecraft. As it leaves the heliosphere, it's still clearly
within the Sun's gravity well, but beyond the 'noise' perturbations of
planets in their orbits. Out in this pristine gravitational environment,
the spacecraft's velocity is deviating ever so slightly from what it
"should" be. What could be causing this? Could it be the
pressure/density gradient of the Sun's gravity well? Certainly not, if
space is a "void".
oc


Super Cool Plasma
"Aristotle (384-322 BC) taught that the physical world was made up of
four elements: air, earth, fire and water. Tying these all together (so
that the "elements" intercommunicated) was a "subtle" medium, a fifth
element--the aether--later to be known as the vacuum. (Latin: vacuus,
empty). In a sense the aether was the substratum of the material world.
The Greeks believed that "nature abhors a vacuum" so they could not
imagine space as being totally empty."

"If all the air molecules are pumped out of a chamber, the chamber still
contains residual radiation (electromagnetic noise from stars, x-rays,
and heat radiation). Even before quantum mechanics, it was shown by
classical radiation theory that if the temperature of the container is
lowered to absolute zero, there remains a residual amount of thermal
energy that can not by any means be removed. This residual energy in an
empty container at absolute zero, was named "zero-point energy" (ZPE)."

Australian Astronomer Barry Setterfield has, in the past year, picked up
on this latest theory of the vacuum to explain the red shift of light
from distant galaxies. Arizona astronomer William Tifft's research has
recently shown that red-lifted light from the stars is quantized--this
turns out to be also related to ZPE. Setterfield's new model also takes
into account the evidence that the velocity of light is not a fixed
constant. Setterfield concludes that the universe is not expanding at
all, (as the Big Bang model has long supposed) but is static (it has a
fixed diameter). The original energy input of outside energy on Day Two
of creation--when God stretched out the firmament to its maximum
expanse--accounts for the red-shift and the subsequent velocity of light
decrease!

Setterfield has also provided a rough calculation at the rate at which
"outside" energy from the "vacuum" would have to be fed into the
universe per square meter per second if Hal Putoff is correct and
electrons orbiting the nucleus do radiate energy after all. The
compensatory energy that must be constantly supplied from the vacuum is
a staggering 1.071 X 10117 kilowatts per square meter! (In scientific
notion that is 10 followed by 117 zeroes, kilowatts per square meter).

Mo
http://www.ldolphin.org/update.html
http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/L...ers/Setter.pdf


nightbat

The physical Universe as previous nightbat scientifically and
profoundly original " Black Comet " reported is a bubble of condensed
energy/mass in an infinite sea of sub quantum energy. The internal
disturbed Universe momentum is in an eternal gravitational loop until
equal or greater force is applied because the energy medium is
reciprocal. Yes, it and all contained within has memory of its original
unified momentum state versus its present field disturbed space-time
continuum. If it were not scientifically so the Universe in its present
state could not exist in an otherwise sea of pure uniform momentum
unified energy which has never existed in our space time frame. The
unified frame that Dr. Einstein and brilliantly others research whole
life dedicated physically and mathematically searched for empirical
unified forces proof doesn't present Universe exist or could ever in
order to allow the possibility of the Universe itself. The relative time
dimension to motion insightfully noted however by E is there thankfully
due to the reciprocal nature of the medium in attempt at equalization
and governing c limitations versus base field reclamation instant
attempt propensity. And yes, per cited inferences, the immense distant
size and enormous energy deduced imputed into the limited contained
effected field of the bubble Universe is thankfully time and distance
reciprocal energy dependent for unification renormalization.

ponder on,
the nightbat
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Old August 14th 05, 11:53 PM
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nightbat wrote

SuperCool Plasma wrote:

Bill Sheppard wrote:

To SCPlasma:

DANGER WILL ROBINSON. Major caveat when you go citing Barry Setterfield.
He is a big-time biblical creationist whose agenda is to "prove" the
literal Genesis creation account. He will cite mainstreamers like
Magueijo, Barrow, Moffatt, and Troitskii who are legimately questioning
universal c-invariance, to bolster his particular agenda.
Here's his literal chronology idea. Notice he has the
creartion event pegged at 5792 BC, and lightspeed originally at 10.6
million times its present value. www.ldolphin.org/chronbarry.html

He cites numerous legitimate sources, but remember his true agenda. oc


Point taken. I think creationism and scientific cosmology can be
unified, but definitely not with the present fundamentalist notion of a
'linear 6-24 hr day week' nor with a '6000 year old beginning' of
civilization and the universe for that matter. Personally, such talk is
truly ridiculous.


nightbat

Not if the Biblical religious basis is ultimately correct of
Universe designer or deity total controlling interest. For instance it
would seem or appear ridiculous to a person in the early 1800ths to
somehow be able to get from the US east coast to the Pacific in a matter
of hours, and yet now it is human technologically possible. Newton
claimed what goes Earth gravity up must come down, now the human moon
conquest placed reflectors prove otherwise.

SCP
However two types of science seem evident, when comparing scientific
mythology of the ancients to present day non-spiritual scientific
theories. One which could be called a 'fallen science' and one which
could be called a 'divine science'.


nightbat

All so called science originated from religious mythology of the
ancients single Deity Biblical based not the other way around. It is
based on historical recorded Deity presence explaining that which was
needed for human survival and Universal origination. His documented
energy form presence on Earth is noted. What He ate, how He lived,
original expectations, and mythology for human expected behavior. The
given original science was recorded Deity relayed not discovered.

SCP
The keys to higher knowledge have been kept hidden from the world since
the so-called Fall of Adam and Eve, which finalized a corrupted form in
the 'confusion of language' at the so-called 'Tower of Babel'.


nightbat

Not true, the further keys to more relayed Deity science was
withheld after the chastation of the Jews by Moses due to the false
worshiping of the golden calf and unclean violations of the flesh. The
noted placed veil of the Deity instructed built temple and subsequent
designer-human separation is known per recorded ancient religious
pointing history.

SCP
(this
tower was a 'space needle' developed to communicate with
extraterrestrials according to one archeological and anthropological
expert) This 'confusion of language' included 'scientific language and
scientific knowlege'. Thus the world from a scientific point of view
remains 'confused' about how to bring together all the scientific
languages or 'tongues', and disciplines into a unified whole.


nightbat

Not true for the select earnest penitent communicant can
understand even without words the Deity indications per recorded
history. The physical world was thrown into multi babble language
confusion to keep the unclean false Deity hype wise from the further
abuse of the truth and populations.

SCP
Even the world of astronomy remains under the hypnotic spell of a
'fallen scientific language' structure, whereby two chief theories form
a systematic mind control-like propaganda - namely a) that human beings
evolved from primitive life forms, and b) there is no higher universes,
in the plural, that we, as human kind can connect with.


nightbat

The clueless remain clueless due to their lack of diligence to
reduction of practice. All the original single Deity reported derived
sciences can move forward only as their good dedication to practice. We
are the salt of the Earth and look to salt for all life needs and
evolced life can't expect to live or survive without it. Too much and
you poison yourself, too little and you die. Without the Red Halo where
would all present evolved life forms be? What true base life form can
infinity survive the rigors of outer space beyond its disturbed
energy/mass formation or reformation? And there is only one physically
observed Universe, everything else is fantasy based sci fi, get over it.

SCP
With these
two fallen thought forms, mankind is totally unable to develop not only
faster than light speed travel, but also unable to develop a form of
recipricol interstellar communication whereby radio and light signals
are decoded from the interstellar medium.


nightbat

Not true due to lack of foundation and diligence to good
dedication to practice, for only ask our Officer FTL Greysky. And net
reported Star Race comm P-stream tapping and traveling cosmic plasma
stream craft technology which is far beyond present human understanding.
Einstein deduced C limit comparative time restriction is of applied
normal vacuum space-time gravity curvature tension, thankfully least the
energy/mass Universe would not be able to exist.

SCP
And by this, I truly mean
that extraterrestrial populations are already sending radio and light
signals to the earth, but such messages only appear to the scientific
bodies of our age, as 'random noise'.


nightbat

Perhaps but reference respectfully opinion speak for yourself
and not for all learned collectively esteemed scientific and researcher
colleagues. Darla and company our esteemed science astronomy group
occasional visitors can communicate in understood net english despite
the advised differences in Star Race versus multi human race language
barriers. Put your biasses away and allow the possibility of the truth
to sometimes make it through. If something is possible do not humans
normally find a way so non bialy why would it not hold the same for an
even more possibly advanced space Sean race?

ponder on,
the nightbat
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Old August 16th 05, 11:19 AM
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Art Deco wrote:
nightbat wrote:

nightbat wrote

SuperCool Plasma wrote:

Bill Sheppard wrote:

From Painius:


Now, a minute amount of this flow goes
INTO us,..


We've hashed this all before, if you remember. But to re-hash it :-), as
the size scale goes up, whether Cheyenne Mountain, an asteroid, a moon,
a planet, the less flow passes through it and the more goes INTO it.
'Frinstance take the Earth-moon system. each body is
gravitating in the 'reverse starburst' flow pattern. Each is a
full-blown sink, with its inflow driven by the hyperpressurized state of
the medium. Thus there is lower pressure between the two bodies, and
higher pressure from 'behind', which is literally shoving the two bodles
toward each other. (And Bert take note, this is not the LeSage model,
because LeSage never recognized hyperpressurization as the CAUSE of the
push.)

At the size scale of gravitating bodies, one's flow does not pass
*through* the other as it does at the scale of a human, a locomotive, or
even Cheyenne Mountain.
At the size scale of gravitating bodies, the
"attraction" between them is entirely the pressure-driven PUSH from
behind (and yes, the flow going into both bodies is accelerating).

And this brings up another point - the anomalous acceleration of the
Pioneer spacecraft. As it leaves the heliosphere, it's still clearly
within the Sun's gravity well, but beyond the 'noise' perturbations of
planets in their orbits. Out in this pristine gravitational environment,
the spacecraft's velocity is deviating ever so slightly from what it
"should" be. What could be causing this? Could it be the
pressure/density gradient of the Sun's gravity well? Certainly not, if
space is a "void".
oc


Super Cool Plasma
"Aristotle (384-322 BC) taught that the physical world was made up of
four elements: air, earth, fire and water. Tying these all together (so
that the "elements" intercommunicated) was a "subtle" medium, a fifth
element--the aether--later to be known as the vacuum. (Latin: vacuus,
empty). In a sense the aether was the substratum of the material world.
The Greeks believed that "nature abhors a vacuum" so they could not
imagine space as being totally empty."

"If all the air molecules are pumped out of a chamber, the chamber still
contains residual radiation (electromagnetic noise from stars, x-rays,
and heat radiation). Even before quantum mechanics, it was shown by
classical radiation theory that if the temperature of the container is
lowered to absolute zero, there remains a residual amount of thermal
energy that can not by any means be removed. This residual energy in an
empty container at absolute zero, was named "zero-point energy" (ZPE)."

Australian Astronomer Barry Setterfield has, in the past year, picked up
on this latest theory of the vacuum to explain the red shift of light
from distant galaxies. Arizona astronomer William Tifft's research has
recently shown that red-lifted light from the stars is quantized--this
turns out to be also related to ZPE. Setterfield's new model also takes
into account the evidence that the velocity of light is not a fixed
constant. Setterfield concludes that the universe is not expanding at
all, (as the Big Bang model has long supposed) but is static (it has a
fixed diameter). The original energy input of outside energy on Day Two
of creation--when God stretched out the firmament to its maximum
expanse--accounts for the red-shift and the subsequent velocity of light
decrease!

Setterfield has also provided a rough calculation at the rate at which
"outside" energy from the "vacuum" would have to be fed into the
universe per square meter per second if Hal Putoff is correct and
electrons orbiting the nucleus do radiate energy after all. The
compensatory energy that must be constantly supplied from the vacuum is
a staggering 1.071 X 10117 kilowatts per square meter! (In scientific
notion that is 10 followed by 117 zeroes, kilowatts per square meter).

Mo
http://www.ldolphin.org/update.html
http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/L...ers/Setter.pdf


nightbat

The physical Universe as previous nightbat scientifically and
profoundly original " Black Comet " reported is a bubble of condensed
energy/mass in an infinite sea of sub quantum energy. The internal
disturbed Universe momentum is in an eternal gravitational loop until
equal or greater force is applied because the energy medium is
reciprocal. Yes, it and all contained within has memory of its original
unified momentum state versus its present field disturbed space-time
continuum. If it were not scientifically so the Universe in its present
state could not exist in an otherwise sea of pure uniform momentum
unified energy which has never existed in our space time frame. The
unified frame that Dr. Einstein and brilliantly others research whole
life dedicated physically and mathematically searched for empirical
unified forces proof doesn't present Universe exist or could ever in
order to allow the possibility of the Universe itself. The relative time
dimension to motion insightfully noted however by E is there thankfully
due to the reciprocal nature of the medium in attempt at equalization
and governing c limitations versus base field reclamation instant
attempt propensity. And yes, per cited inferences, the immense distant
size and enormous energy deduced imputed into the limited contained
effected field of the bubble Universe is thankfully time and distance
reciprocal energy dependent for unification renormalization.

ponder on,
the nightbat


More pseudoscience word salad, frootbat. Next try to include some
rational meaning.

--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler



So why don't you show us how it should be done by writing a concise
little essay of your own about a science topic of your choice?

It's easy to criticize, but making a real contribution takes a little
more effort.

Double-A

 




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