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From Painius:
So if the spatial medium were not accelerating, then we would what? float away? I'm not sure i understand why a spatial flow that is not accelerating, but only traveling at a constant speed, would not impart a force to be met by matter's resistance. Why is force only imparted when the spatial flow is accelerating? Well, let's first consider what atomic structure may truly be, and what it isn't. The mainstream idea is that atoms are discrete particles individuated against the backdrop of the "void". An alternative idea is that atoms are _processes_ IN and OF an underlying medium, much as the eddies and whorls in a river are processes of the river. Let's just for a moment say "what if" the alternatative view is the correct one. Atoms are embedded, vortice-like processes in and of the spatial medium. Under this model, let's look at the most extreme example of gravititational acceleration- the 'spagettification' you'd experience falling into a black hole**. This extreme stretching is obviously occuring at the atomic level, as the forward end of each atom is being accelerated faster than its trailing end. Since the atom is a process in the medium, it experiences the same accelerational gradient as the medium it's embedded in, and thus is forced to "go with" the accelerating flow. Now scale back this extreme example to the 'normal' gravity we experiece here on terra firma. The same accelerational gradient is at work on all our constituent atoms, but at a greatly diminished level. Hopefully this has expanded upon the Lindner-Shifman explanation of the accelerational gradient ('tension') by which momentum is imparted (and why a non-accelerating flow does not impart momentum). Lindner-Shifman do not clearly grasp the concept of an atom as a process in and of the spatial medium; they think in terms of the atom AND the medium. ______ ** Spagettification would occur with a traditional few-solar-mass BH, not a supermassive BH. With the latter, you would not experience any signifigant stretching as you fall in. oc |
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"Bill Sheppard" wrote in message ... From Painius: So if the spatial medium were not accelerating, then we would what? float away? I'm not sure i understand why a spatial flow that is not accelerating, but only traveling at a constant speed, would not impart a force to be met by matter's resistance. Why is force only imparted when the spatial flow is accelerating? Well, let's first consider what atomic structure may truly be, and what it isn't. The mainstream idea is that atoms are discrete particles individuated against the backdrop of the "void". An alternative idea is that atoms are _processes_ IN and OF an underlying medium, much as the eddies and whorls in a river are processes of the river. Oh Oh Oh , is this this the one where Wolter or Shiffner or Lindner or someone says that the flowing space wraps around leptons and turns them like non magical sky pixie things into hadrons. ? Is that right ? I think you said something like that once. Changed your mind yet, old coot? |
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"Bill Sheppard" wrote in message ... From Painius, re. the reality of the spatial medium, FS gravity etc.: As was heliocentric theory before Copernicus mathed it and Galileo proved it. As stated before, Paine, the spatial mediium proves itself. It declares its existance, and demonstrates its nature by its bounty of effects, which include: 1. The high, fixed propagation speed of light. No reason why this should follow apart from an insistence that there has to be a medium. 2. The behavior of gravity as a pressure-driven, accelerating flow. Except that most people would insist that this supposed medium behaved like a real medium, which kinda rules out ALL THE OBSERVED EFFECTS OF RELATIVITY which have been obvserved down to parts per billion precision. Lets state that again. ACCURATE MEASUREMENTS HAVE PROVEN THE OPPOSITE OF Flowing Space. 3. The property of hyperfluidity, demonstrated in the laws of inertia and momentum, and in gravity-acceleration equivalence. The only 'Galileo's Tool' we need is the natural 'headset' residing between our ears - to simply observe What Is. "Faith" be *****'ed. Hrrrumph :-). oc If the flowing halfwit model fits comfortably between your ears I suppose there's not a lot more that can be said to you. If your best argument against logic, observation and reason is that 'dur, i think it is true', then I guess there's not a lot of point in arguing the point. . |
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Bill Sheppard wrote: From Painius: So if the spatial medium were not accelerating, then we would what? float away? I'm not sure i understand why a spatial flow that is not accelerating, but only traveling at a constant speed, would not impart a force to be met by matter's resistance. Why is force only imparted when the spatial flow is accelerating? Well, let's first consider what atomic structure may truly be, and what it isn't. The mainstream idea is that atoms are discrete particles individuated against the backdrop of the "void". An alternative idea is that atoms are _processes_ IN and OF an underlying medium, much as the eddies and whorls in a river are processes of the river. Let's just for a moment say "what if" the alternatative view is the correct one. Atoms are embedded, vortice-like processes in and of the spatial medium. Under this model, let's look at the most extreme example of gravititational acceleration- the 'spagettification' you'd experience falling into a black hole**. This extreme stretching is obviously occuring at the atomic level, as the forward end of each atom is being accelerated faster than its trailing end. Since the atom is a process in the medium, it experiences the same accelerational gradient as the medium it's embedded in, and thus is forced to "go with" the accelerating flow. Now scale back this extreme example to the 'normal' gravity we experiece here on terra firma. The same accelerational gradient is at work on all our constituent atoms, but at a greatly diminished level. Hopefully this has expanded upon the Lindner-Shifman explanation of the accelerational gradient ('tension') by which momentum is imparted (and why a non-accelerating flow does not impart momentum). Lindner-Shifman do not clearly grasp the concept of an atom as a process in and of the spatial medium; they think in terms of the atom AND the medium. ______ ** Spagettification would occur with a traditional few-solar-mass BH, not a supermassive BH. With the latter, you would not experience any signifigant stretching as you fall in. oc "The discovery means that for decades scientists have been severely underestimating how much power black holes pump back into the universe instead of merely swallowing material across their event horizons." "Contrary to established scientific thinking, you'd be roasted and not "spaghettified" if you stumbled into a supermassive black hole." Check out these links for more information: http://www.spacedaily.com/news/blackhole-05u.html http://www.spacedaily.com/news/blackhole-05s.html http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0222195058.htm http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0805104705.htm |
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Bill Sheppard wrote: From Painius: Now, a minute amount of this flow goes INTO us,.. We've hashed this all before, if you remember. But to re-hash it :-), as the size scale goes up, whether Cheyenne Mountain, an asteroid, a moon, a planet, the less flow passes through it and the more goes INTO it. 'Frinstance take the Earth-moon system. each body is gravitating in the 'reverse starburst' flow pattern. Each is a full-blown sink, with its inflow driven by the hyperpressurized state of the medium. Thus there is lower pressure between the two bodies, and higher pressure from 'behind', which is literally shoving the two bodles toward each other. (And Bert take note, this is not the LeSage model, because LeSage never recognized hyperpressurization as the CAUSE of the push.) At the size scale of gravitating bodies, one's flow does not pass *through* the other as it does at the scale of a human, a locomotive, or even Cheyenne Mountain. At the size scale of gravitating bodies, the "attraction" between them is entirely the pressure-driven PUSH from behind (and yes, the flow going into both bodies is accelerating). And this brings up another point - the anomalous acceleration of the Pioneer spacecraft. As it leaves the heliosphere, it's still clearly within the Sun's gravity well, but beyond the 'noise' perturbations of planets in their orbits. Out in this pristine gravitational environment, the spacecraft's velocity is deviating ever so slightly from what it "should" be. What could be causing this? Could it be the pressure/density gradient of the Sun's gravity well? Certainly not, if space is a "void". oc "Aristotle (384-322 BC) taught that the physical world was made up of four elements: air, earth, fire and water. Tying these all together (so that the "elements" intercommunicated) was a "subtle" medium, a fifth element--the aether--later to be known as the vacuum. (Latin: vacuus, empty). In a sense the aether was the substratum of the material world. The Greeks believed that "nature abhors a vacuum" so they could not imagine space as being totally empty." "If all the air molecules are pumped out of a chamber, the chamber still contains residual radiation (electromagnetic noise from stars, x-rays, and heat radiation). Even before quantum mechanics, it was shown by classical radiation theory that if the temperature of the container is lowered to absolute zero, there remains a residual amount of thermal energy that can not by any means be removed. This residual energy in an empty container at absolute zero, was named "zero-point energy" (ZPE)." Australian Astronomer Barry Setterfield has, in the past year, picked up on this latest theory of the vacuum to explain the red shift of light from distant galaxies. Arizona astronomer William Tifft's research has recently shown that red-lifted light from the stars is quantized--this turns out to be also related to ZPE. Setterfield's new model also takes into account the evidence that the velocity of light is not a fixed constant. Setterfield concludes that the universe is not expanding at all, (as the Big Bang model has long supposed) but is static (it has a fixed diameter). The original energy input of outside energy on Day Two of creation--when God stretched out the firmament to its maximum expanse--accounts for the red-shift and the subsequent velocity of light decrease! Setterfield has also provided a rough calculation at the rate at which "outside" energy from the "vacuum" would have to be fed into the universe per square meter per second if Hal Putoff is correct and electrons orbiting the nucleus do radiate energy after all. The compensatory energy that must be constantly supplied from the vacuum is a staggering 1.071 X 10117 kilowatts per square meter! (In scientific notion that is 10 followed by 117 zeroes, kilowatts per square meter). Mo http://www.ldolphin.org/update.html http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/L...ers/Setter.pdf |
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To SCPlasma:
DANGER WILL ROBINSON. Major caveat when you go citing Barry Setterfield. He is a big-time biblical creationist whose agenda is to "prove" the literal Genesis creation account. He will cite mainstreamers like Magueijo, Barrow, Moffatt, and Troitskii who are legimately questioning universal c-invariance, to bolster his particular agenda. Here's his literal chronology idea. Notice he has the creartion event pegged at 5792 BC, and lightspeed originally at 10.6 million times its present value. www.ldolphin.org/chronbarry.html He cites numerous legitimate sources, but remember his true agenda. oc |
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Bill Sheppard wrote: To SCPlasma: DANGER WILL ROBINSON. Major caveat when you go citing Barry Setterfield. He is a big-time biblical creationist whose agenda is to "prove" the literal Genesis creation account. He will cite mainstreamers like Magueijo, Barrow, Moffatt, and Troitskii who are legimately questioning universal c-invariance, to bolster his particular agenda. Here's his literal chronology idea. Notice he has the creartion event pegged at 5792 BC, and lightspeed originally at 10.6 million times its present value. www.ldolphin.org/chronbarry.html He cites numerous legitimate sources, but remember his true agenda. oc Point taken. I think creationism and scientific cosmology can be unified, but definitely not with the present fundamentalist notion of a 'linear 6-24 hr day week' nor with a '6000 year old beginning' of civilization and the universe for that matter. Personally, such talk is truly ridiculous. However two types of science seem evident, when comparing scientific mythology of the ancients to present day non-spiritual scientific theories. One which could be called a 'fallen science' and one which could be called a 'divine science'. The keys to higher knowledge have been kept hidden from the world since the so-called Fall of Adam and Eve, which finalized a corrupted form in the 'confusion of language' at the so-called 'Tower of Babel'. (this tower was a 'space needle' developed to communicate with extraterrestrials according to one archeological and anthropological expert) This 'confusion of language' included 'scientific language and scientific knowlege'. Thus the world from a scientific point of view remains 'confused' about how to bring together all the scientific languages or 'tongues', and disciplines into a unified whole. Even the world of astronomy remains under the hypnotic spell of a 'fallen scientific language' structure, whereby two chief theories form a systematic mind control-like propaganda - namely a) that human beings evolved from primitive life forms, and b) there is no higher universes, in the plural, that we, as human kind can connect with. With these two fallen thought forms, mankind is totally unable to develop not only faster than light speed travel, but also unable to develop a form of recipricol interstellar communication whereby radio and light signals are decoded from the interstellar medium. And by this, I truly mean that extraterrestrial populations are already sending radio and light signals to the earth, but such messages only appear to the scientific bodies of our age, as 'random noise'. |
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SuperCool Plasma wrote: Bill Sheppard wrote: From Painius: Now, a minute amount of this flow goes INTO us,.. We've hashed this all before, if you remember. But to re-hash it :-), as the size scale goes up, whether Cheyenne Mountain, an asteroid, a moon, a planet, the less flow passes through it and the more goes INTO it. 'Frinstance take the Earth-moon system. each body is gravitating in the 'reverse starburst' flow pattern. Each is a full-blown sink, with its inflow driven by the hyperpressurized state of the medium. Thus there is lower pressure between the two bodies, and higher pressure from 'behind', which is literally shoving the two bodles toward each other. (And Bert take note, this is not the LeSage model, because LeSage never recognized hyperpressurization as the CAUSE of the push.) At the size scale of gravitating bodies, one's flow does not pass *through* the other as it does at the scale of a human, a locomotive, or even Cheyenne Mountain. At the size scale of gravitating bodies, the "attraction" between them is entirely the pressure-driven PUSH from behind (and yes, the flow going into both bodies is accelerating). And this brings up another point - the anomalous acceleration of the Pioneer spacecraft. As it leaves the heliosphere, it's still clearly within the Sun's gravity well, but beyond the 'noise' perturbations of planets in their orbits. Out in this pristine gravitational environment, the spacecraft's velocity is deviating ever so slightly from what it "should" be. What could be causing this? Could it be the pressure/density gradient of the Sun's gravity well? Certainly not, if space is a "void". oc Super Cool Plasma "Aristotle (384-322 BC) taught that the physical world was made up of four elements: air, earth, fire and water. Tying these all together (so that the "elements" intercommunicated) was a "subtle" medium, a fifth element--the aether--later to be known as the vacuum. (Latin: vacuus, empty). In a sense the aether was the substratum of the material world. The Greeks believed that "nature abhors a vacuum" so they could not imagine space as being totally empty." "If all the air molecules are pumped out of a chamber, the chamber still contains residual radiation (electromagnetic noise from stars, x-rays, and heat radiation). Even before quantum mechanics, it was shown by classical radiation theory that if the temperature of the container is lowered to absolute zero, there remains a residual amount of thermal energy that can not by any means be removed. This residual energy in an empty container at absolute zero, was named "zero-point energy" (ZPE)." Australian Astronomer Barry Setterfield has, in the past year, picked up on this latest theory of the vacuum to explain the red shift of light from distant galaxies. Arizona astronomer William Tifft's research has recently shown that red-lifted light from the stars is quantized--this turns out to be also related to ZPE. Setterfield's new model also takes into account the evidence that the velocity of light is not a fixed constant. Setterfield concludes that the universe is not expanding at all, (as the Big Bang model has long supposed) but is static (it has a fixed diameter). The original energy input of outside energy on Day Two of creation--when God stretched out the firmament to its maximum expanse--accounts for the red-shift and the subsequent velocity of light decrease! Setterfield has also provided a rough calculation at the rate at which "outside" energy from the "vacuum" would have to be fed into the universe per square meter per second if Hal Putoff is correct and electrons orbiting the nucleus do radiate energy after all. The compensatory energy that must be constantly supplied from the vacuum is a staggering 1.071 X 10117 kilowatts per square meter! (In scientific notion that is 10 followed by 117 zeroes, kilowatts per square meter). Mo http://www.ldolphin.org/update.html http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/L...ers/Setter.pdf nightbat The physical Universe as previous nightbat scientifically and profoundly original " Black Comet " reported is a bubble of condensed energy/mass in an infinite sea of sub quantum energy. The internal disturbed Universe momentum is in an eternal gravitational loop until equal or greater force is applied because the energy medium is reciprocal. Yes, it and all contained within has memory of its original unified momentum state versus its present field disturbed space-time continuum. If it were not scientifically so the Universe in its present state could not exist in an otherwise sea of pure uniform momentum unified energy which has never existed in our space time frame. The unified frame that Dr. Einstein and brilliantly others research whole life dedicated physically and mathematically searched for empirical unified forces proof doesn't present Universe exist or could ever in order to allow the possibility of the Universe itself. The relative time dimension to motion insightfully noted however by E is there thankfully due to the reciprocal nature of the medium in attempt at equalization and governing c limitations versus base field reclamation instant attempt propensity. And yes, per cited inferences, the immense distant size and enormous energy deduced imputed into the limited contained effected field of the bubble Universe is thankfully time and distance reciprocal energy dependent for unification renormalization. ponder on, the nightbat |
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SuperCool Plasma wrote: Bill Sheppard wrote: To SCPlasma: DANGER WILL ROBINSON. Major caveat when you go citing Barry Setterfield. He is a big-time biblical creationist whose agenda is to "prove" the literal Genesis creation account. He will cite mainstreamers like Magueijo, Barrow, Moffatt, and Troitskii who are legimately questioning universal c-invariance, to bolster his particular agenda. Here's his literal chronology idea. Notice he has the creartion event pegged at 5792 BC, and lightspeed originally at 10.6 million times its present value. www.ldolphin.org/chronbarry.html He cites numerous legitimate sources, but remember his true agenda. oc Point taken. I think creationism and scientific cosmology can be unified, but definitely not with the present fundamentalist notion of a 'linear 6-24 hr day week' nor with a '6000 year old beginning' of civilization and the universe for that matter. Personally, such talk is truly ridiculous. nightbat Not if the Biblical religious basis is ultimately correct of Universe designer or deity total controlling interest. For instance it would seem or appear ridiculous to a person in the early 1800ths to somehow be able to get from the US east coast to the Pacific in a matter of hours, and yet now it is human technologically possible. Newton claimed what goes Earth gravity up must come down, now the human moon conquest placed reflectors prove otherwise. SCP However two types of science seem evident, when comparing scientific mythology of the ancients to present day non-spiritual scientific theories. One which could be called a 'fallen science' and one which could be called a 'divine science'. nightbat All so called science originated from religious mythology of the ancients single Deity Biblical based not the other way around. It is based on historical recorded Deity presence explaining that which was needed for human survival and Universal origination. His documented energy form presence on Earth is noted. What He ate, how He lived, original expectations, and mythology for human expected behavior. The given original science was recorded Deity relayed not discovered. SCP The keys to higher knowledge have been kept hidden from the world since the so-called Fall of Adam and Eve, which finalized a corrupted form in the 'confusion of language' at the so-called 'Tower of Babel'. nightbat Not true, the further keys to more relayed Deity science was withheld after the chastation of the Jews by Moses due to the false worshiping of the golden calf and unclean violations of the flesh. The noted placed veil of the Deity instructed built temple and subsequent designer-human separation is known per recorded ancient religious pointing history. SCP (this tower was a 'space needle' developed to communicate with extraterrestrials according to one archeological and anthropological expert) This 'confusion of language' included 'scientific language and scientific knowlege'. Thus the world from a scientific point of view remains 'confused' about how to bring together all the scientific languages or 'tongues', and disciplines into a unified whole. nightbat Not true for the select earnest penitent communicant can understand even without words the Deity indications per recorded history. The physical world was thrown into multi babble language confusion to keep the unclean false Deity hype wise from the further abuse of the truth and populations. SCP Even the world of astronomy remains under the hypnotic spell of a 'fallen scientific language' structure, whereby two chief theories form a systematic mind control-like propaganda - namely a) that human beings evolved from primitive life forms, and b) there is no higher universes, in the plural, that we, as human kind can connect with. nightbat The clueless remain clueless due to their lack of diligence to reduction of practice. All the original single Deity reported derived sciences can move forward only as their good dedication to practice. We are the salt of the Earth and look to salt for all life needs and evolced life can't expect to live or survive without it. Too much and you poison yourself, too little and you die. Without the Red Halo where would all present evolved life forms be? What true base life form can infinity survive the rigors of outer space beyond its disturbed energy/mass formation or reformation? And there is only one physically observed Universe, everything else is fantasy based sci fi, get over it. SCP With these two fallen thought forms, mankind is totally unable to develop not only faster than light speed travel, but also unable to develop a form of recipricol interstellar communication whereby radio and light signals are decoded from the interstellar medium. nightbat Not true due to lack of foundation and diligence to good dedication to practice, for only ask our Officer FTL Greysky. And net reported Star Race comm P-stream tapping and traveling cosmic plasma stream craft technology which is far beyond present human understanding. Einstein deduced C limit comparative time restriction is of applied normal vacuum space-time gravity curvature tension, thankfully least the energy/mass Universe would not be able to exist. SCP And by this, I truly mean that extraterrestrial populations are already sending radio and light signals to the earth, but such messages only appear to the scientific bodies of our age, as 'random noise'. nightbat Perhaps but reference respectfully opinion speak for yourself and not for all learned collectively esteemed scientific and researcher colleagues. Darla and company our esteemed science astronomy group occasional visitors can communicate in understood net english despite the advised differences in Star Race versus multi human race language barriers. Put your biasses away and allow the possibility of the truth to sometimes make it through. If something is possible do not humans normally find a way so non bialy why would it not hold the same for an even more possibly advanced space Sean race? ponder on, the nightbat |
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Art Deco wrote: nightbat wrote: nightbat wrote SuperCool Plasma wrote: Bill Sheppard wrote: From Painius: Now, a minute amount of this flow goes INTO us,.. We've hashed this all before, if you remember. But to re-hash it :-), as the size scale goes up, whether Cheyenne Mountain, an asteroid, a moon, a planet, the less flow passes through it and the more goes INTO it. 'Frinstance take the Earth-moon system. each body is gravitating in the 'reverse starburst' flow pattern. Each is a full-blown sink, with its inflow driven by the hyperpressurized state of the medium. Thus there is lower pressure between the two bodies, and higher pressure from 'behind', which is literally shoving the two bodles toward each other. (And Bert take note, this is not the LeSage model, because LeSage never recognized hyperpressurization as the CAUSE of the push.) At the size scale of gravitating bodies, one's flow does not pass *through* the other as it does at the scale of a human, a locomotive, or even Cheyenne Mountain. At the size scale of gravitating bodies, the "attraction" between them is entirely the pressure-driven PUSH from behind (and yes, the flow going into both bodies is accelerating). And this brings up another point - the anomalous acceleration of the Pioneer spacecraft. As it leaves the heliosphere, it's still clearly within the Sun's gravity well, but beyond the 'noise' perturbations of planets in their orbits. Out in this pristine gravitational environment, the spacecraft's velocity is deviating ever so slightly from what it "should" be. What could be causing this? Could it be the pressure/density gradient of the Sun's gravity well? Certainly not, if space is a "void". oc Super Cool Plasma "Aristotle (384-322 BC) taught that the physical world was made up of four elements: air, earth, fire and water. Tying these all together (so that the "elements" intercommunicated) was a "subtle" medium, a fifth element--the aether--later to be known as the vacuum. (Latin: vacuus, empty). In a sense the aether was the substratum of the material world. The Greeks believed that "nature abhors a vacuum" so they could not imagine space as being totally empty." "If all the air molecules are pumped out of a chamber, the chamber still contains residual radiation (electromagnetic noise from stars, x-rays, and heat radiation). Even before quantum mechanics, it was shown by classical radiation theory that if the temperature of the container is lowered to absolute zero, there remains a residual amount of thermal energy that can not by any means be removed. This residual energy in an empty container at absolute zero, was named "zero-point energy" (ZPE)." Australian Astronomer Barry Setterfield has, in the past year, picked up on this latest theory of the vacuum to explain the red shift of light from distant galaxies. Arizona astronomer William Tifft's research has recently shown that red-lifted light from the stars is quantized--this turns out to be also related to ZPE. Setterfield's new model also takes into account the evidence that the velocity of light is not a fixed constant. Setterfield concludes that the universe is not expanding at all, (as the Big Bang model has long supposed) but is static (it has a fixed diameter). The original energy input of outside energy on Day Two of creation--when God stretched out the firmament to its maximum expanse--accounts for the red-shift and the subsequent velocity of light decrease! Setterfield has also provided a rough calculation at the rate at which "outside" energy from the "vacuum" would have to be fed into the universe per square meter per second if Hal Putoff is correct and electrons orbiting the nucleus do radiate energy after all. The compensatory energy that must be constantly supplied from the vacuum is a staggering 1.071 X 10117 kilowatts per square meter! (In scientific notion that is 10 followed by 117 zeroes, kilowatts per square meter). Mo http://www.ldolphin.org/update.html http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/L...ers/Setter.pdf nightbat The physical Universe as previous nightbat scientifically and profoundly original " Black Comet " reported is a bubble of condensed energy/mass in an infinite sea of sub quantum energy. The internal disturbed Universe momentum is in an eternal gravitational loop until equal or greater force is applied because the energy medium is reciprocal. Yes, it and all contained within has memory of its original unified momentum state versus its present field disturbed space-time continuum. If it were not scientifically so the Universe in its present state could not exist in an otherwise sea of pure uniform momentum unified energy which has never existed in our space time frame. The unified frame that Dr. Einstein and brilliantly others research whole life dedicated physically and mathematically searched for empirical unified forces proof doesn't present Universe exist or could ever in order to allow the possibility of the Universe itself. The relative time dimension to motion insightfully noted however by E is there thankfully due to the reciprocal nature of the medium in attempt at equalization and governing c limitations versus base field reclamation instant attempt propensity. And yes, per cited inferences, the immense distant size and enormous energy deduced imputed into the limited contained effected field of the bubble Universe is thankfully time and distance reciprocal energy dependent for unification renormalization. ponder on, the nightbat More pseudoscience word salad, frootbat. Next try to include some rational meaning. -- Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler So why don't you show us how it should be done by writing a concise little essay of your own about a science topic of your choice? It's easy to criticize, but making a real contribution takes a little more effort. Double-A |
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