Roger Penrose rejects warp drive star gate ET contact evidence

Jack Sarfatti wrote:
p. 835 "Do some relativity physicists really expect ... warp drive ...?
Very few, I imagine ... If those QFT ideas actually do allow such a
holding apart, then this could be taken as a bad sign for those
particular ideas about quantum gravity."

Even in "The Road to Reality" (2004) Roger Penrose does not connect
observed dark energy with metric engineering that to him is pure science
fiction. Michio Kaku is more open about that of course.

Penrose completely rejects, I infer from his omission of the subject
where, if true, it would be essential evidence, that there is any real
UFO data relevant to the problem of quantum gravity and how he sees its
connection to consciousness and the arrow of time. Therefore one must
get a realistic perspective on where the mainstream line in the sand is
drawn on this key issue, are we alone? Are we being visited? Has our
history been manipulated by ETs using warp drive and star gates. For
Penrose, that is all fantasy.

http://stardrive.org


You do not need faster than light travel to travel at quicker than light.

Suppose a two dimensional being living in a sheet of paper.

To travel from where he is to the opposite side of the paper just below
him, he has to travel a great distance, go to the border of the sheet,
then go on traveling until it is just below his previous point. For such
a being, to travel to the opposite side is a VERY long trip.

Enter the third dimension!

For a 3 dimensional being, traveling from the top of the sheet to the
other side this is a no brainer. Without ever even approaching the
speed of light it goes from point A to point B at the other side.

If we discover other dimensions, we can then probably go from one point
in the Mily Way to Andromeda in a few seconds... if they are connected
in a higher dimension. And there is a lot of hints, from the study of
gravity for instance, that we live in more dimensions than 3.

String theory proposes 11 dimensions, nothing less...

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You do not need faster than light travel to travel at quicker than light.

Suppose a two dimensional being living in a sheet of paper.

To travel from where he is to the opposite side of the paper just below
him, he has to travel a great distance, go to the border of the sheet,
then go on traveling until it is just below his previous point. For such
a being, to travel to the opposite side is a VERY long trip.

Enter the third dimension!

For a 3 dimensional being, traveling from the top of the sheet to the
other side this is a no brainer. Without ever even approaching the
speed of light it goes from point A to point B at the other side.

Ok, but there's a big difference... in the second case you have to make a
hole in the sheet of paper and maybe this is impossible...
So it's not sure that extradimensions allow travelling quicker than light,
to do this you have to make some damage to universe structure.
I think this is not allowed by phisycal laws because of paradoxes and
incosistences...

Luigi Caselli

From Osher Doctorow

Luigi Caselli wrote:

to do this you have to make some damage to universe structure.
I think this is not allowed by phisycal laws because of paradoxes and
incosistences...


Take my advice, and take chances as the teacher said usually on Magic
Schoolbus. Claiming that so and so is not allowed wasn't what Columbus
did in discovering America or what the Roman Empire did in conquering
Europe or what Mozart and Beethoven did in "conquering" classical music
or what Einstein did in GR and SR or what Schrodinger and Bohr and
Prince De Broglie and Born did in QM or what Nambu and Goto did in
strings and so on.

Sure, there are some things that aren't allowed. And if that's your
way of life, you'll come in last most of the time. I guess that's
allowed.

Osher Doctorow

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From Osher Doctorow

Luigi Caselli wrote:

to do this you have to make some damage to universe structure.
I think this is not allowed by phisycal laws because of paradoxes and
incosistences...


Take my advice, and take chances as the teacher said usually on Magic
Schoolbus. Claiming that so and so is not allowed wasn't what Columbus
did in discovering America or what the Roman Empire did in conquering
Europe or what Mozart and Beethoven did in "conquering" classical music
or what Einstein did in GR and SR or what Schrodinger and Bohr and
Prince De Broglie and Born did in QM or what Nambu and Goto did in
strings and so on.

These are all so easy things... a difficult one is going into a black hole,
fall in a wormhole and reach another part of this (of another) universe
without any damage... or do you think this is allowed?

Luigi Caselli