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"oðin" wrote:

:
: Hardly. The WWW - what is commonly known as "the net" or "the web", was
: in fact invented by socialists in Geneva.
:
:The WWW is referred to as "the web", but not "the net", as that would be
:idiotic. And no, the WWW was not invented by "socialists in Geneva". The
:fundamental components of the WWW (i.e. HTTP, HTML, URL) were invented by a
:Brit named Tim Berners-Lee, who was at CERN near Geneva at the time. I have
:never seen any evidence that Tim was a socialist though, but if he was, I
:would not care. And The majority of protocols that the Internet is based on
:were invented by Americans. I would think that the portion of US invented
:Internet protocols must be near 99%. And Tim was not even the originator of
:the concept of hypertext, which forms the basis of the WWW. The American
:named Vannevar Bush first proposed the basics of hypertext in 1945. Apple
:computer and many other American companies were involved in Hypertext before
:Tim and his WWW. The united states has been the earliest and largest adopter
f the Internet technologies. And the companies that capitalized on the
:Internet the most, such as Netscape and Microsoft are American. Lets face
:it, just as with every other aspect of computing, the US has been by far the
:biggest player.

And HTML is really just a simplification of SGML. I think SGML came
out of IBM.

--
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
--George Bernard Shaw

h (Rand Simberg) wrote:

:On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 12:33:43 -0600, in a place far, far away, Jo
:Schaper made the phosphor on my
:monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:
:
:Rand Simberg wrote:
: On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:03:21 -0800, in a place far, far away, "oðin"
: made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way
: as to indicate that:
:
:
:Networking itself was primarily pioneered in Europe.
:
:OK. Tell me what pioneering network protocols were developed in Europe.
:
:
: Didn't the French have a text network that became betamaxed by the
: Internet?
:
:So did the US.
:
:I was referring to government-sponsored and developed networks, not
rivate networks such as BBS, Compuserve, GENIE and AOL. The one I'm
:thinking of used kiosks, IIRC.

It was a service of the French national telephone service, I think,
and you could get these little chintzy terminals to hook up to it.
The advantage was that it was really cheap. I'm still trying to
remember the name of it.

I think the Internet and JANET were up and running by the time it
started, but I'm not positive.

--
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
--George Bernard Shaw

It was a service of the French national telephone service, I think,
and you could get these little chintzy terminals to hook up to it.
The advantage was that it was really cheap. I'm still trying to
remember the name of it.

Minitel? Total crap... but it was well bfore the WWW.

And HTML is really just a simplification of SGML. I think SGML came
out of IBM.

Very true. HTML is a brain-dead form of SGML, which was invented in the US.
And HTTP is a protocol that sits on top of TCP/IP, which was invented in the
US. So even the WWW is not purley non-american.

Rand Simberg wrote:
Didn't the French have a text network that became betamaxed by the
Internet?

Minitel. It was state of the art for a few years, until it
got totally obliterated by the march of progress.

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 00:59:00 GMT, Fred J. McCall
wrote:

: I'm confused... :-)
I'm not surprised.

But, at least, I'm trying to end my confusion...

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 01:02:20 GMT, Fred J. McCall
wrote:

:Snicker. Stupid. Stupid Cannuck.
: Hey! Don't paint us ALL like him! :-)
Sorry. I know you're not.

Are we even sure that VD *is* posting from a Canadian site...?

Rand Simberg wrote:

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 12:33:43 -0600, in a place far, far away, Jo
Schaper made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:


Rand Simberg wrote:

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:03:21 -0800, in a place far, far away, "oðin"
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way
as to indicate that:



Networking itself was primarily pioneered in Europe.

OK. Tell me what pioneering network protocols were developed in Europe.


Didn't the French have a text network that became betamaxed by the
Internet?

So did the US.


I was referring to government-sponsored and developed networks, not
private networks such as BBS, Compuserve, GENIE and AOL. The one I'm
thinking of used kiosks, IIRC.

What you have in mind I presume is Minitel. Minitel uses dedicated
terminals. You can have one at home and use it with your phone line
or you can plug into a kiosk.

Minitel is still alive and has some advantages over the internet
on the security side because the communication between the two
terminals doesn't bounce over unknown third party computers.

Alain Fournier

charliew2 wrote:
"Vendicar Decarian" wrote in message
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"oðin" wrote in message
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My point is that numerical representation of data does
not occur in the analog computing realm.

Tell that to a slide rule.

Snicker....

Scott, you obviously have a reading comprehension problem.

Analog is to digital computer as slide rule is to calculator....
Not so far fetched.

josh halpern

"Joshua Halpern" wrote in message
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Analog is to digital computer as slide rule is to calculator....
Not so far fetched.

And not difficult to understand.

One wonders about Charliew2 here.

Snicker...