Is Joe Barton Right (Stop STS)?

Dick Morris wrote:
[...]
How do airliners do it?

They overfly populated areas all the time.

During early flight test? I don't *think* so...


-george william herbert

George William Herbert wrote:

Dick Morris wrote:
[...]
How do airliners do it?

They overfly populated areas all the time.

During early flight test? I don't *think* so...

-george william herbert


Our Renton and Everett plants are in populated areas, so the first
flights are necessarily over populated areas. The Flight Test center is
at Boeing Field which is in an even more densely populated area. Some
flight testing is done over at Moses Lake, or, IIRC, down at Edwards
AFB, but a substantial portion is over populated areas.

"Brian Thorn" wrote:
On 10 Jul 2003 19:39:25 -0700, (George William
Herbert) wrote:

How do airliners do it?

They overfly populated areas all the time.

During early flight test? I don't *think* so...

But airliners have been known to kill people on the ground. No manned
spacecraft ever has. So why not ban airliners from flying over
populated areas?

That's an erroneous argument. Manned spaceflight is
very rare, so of course you'd expect the incident rate
in ground fatalaties to be much lower than with
airplanes. Even if manned spaceflight was 10x more
likely to kill people on the ground than airplanes,
you wouldn't expect any deaths yet based on the small
number of manned spaceflights.


Also, rocket launches over populated areas *have*
killed people before, just ask the Chinese.

Brian Thorn wrote:

On 10 Jul 2003 19:39:25 -0700, (George William
Herbert) wrote:

How do airliners do it?

They overfly populated areas all the time.

During early flight test? I don't *think* so...

But airliners have been known to kill people on the ground. No manned
spacecraft ever has. So why not ban airliners from flying over
populated areas?

Brian

They only do so once in many millions of flights.

How do airliners do it?

They overfly populated areas all the time.

If airliners failed at the SAME RATE as the shuttles 40 per day would crash.j

On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:49:40 -0500, "Christopher M. Jones"
wrote:


They overfly populated areas all the time.

During early flight test? I don't *think* so...

But airliners have been known to kill people on the ground. No manned
spacecraft ever has. So why not ban airliners from flying over
populated areas?

That's an erroneous argument.

The whole argument is erroneous, that's my point.

Even if manned spaceflight was 10x more
likely to kill people on the ground than airplanes,
you wouldn't expect any deaths yet based on the small
number of manned spaceflights.

Then why bother trying to ban it?

Also, rocket launches over populated areas *have*
killed people before, just ask the Chinese.

The Chinese deny it. Gotta love 'em.

Brian

"Brian Thorn" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:23:16 GMT, Dick Morris
wrote:

During early flight test? I don't *think* so...

But airliners have been known to kill people on the ground. No manned
spacecraft ever has. So why not ban airliners from flying over
populated areas?

They only do so once in many millions of flights.

And when they do, it tends to be near an airport. So I say that the
statistics strongly suggest we should ban all aircraft from flying
near airports.

I love statistics! :-)

Hey, ever since I learned that 90% of all car accidents occur within 5 miles
of my home, I park my car 5 miles away and walk the rest.



Brian

Brian Thorn wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:23:16 GMT, Dick Morris
wrote:

During early flight test? I don't *think* so...

But airliners have been known to kill people on the ground. No manned
spacecraft ever has. So why not ban airliners from flying over
populated areas?

They only do so once in many millions of flights.

And when they do, it tends to be near an airport. So I say that the
statistics strongly suggest we should ban all aircraft from flying
near airports.

I love statistics! :-)

I hate statistics. :-(

Brian

"Rand Simberg" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 23:07:30 GMT, in a place far, far away, "Greg D.
Moore \(Strider\)" made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

Hey, ever since I learned that 90% of all car accidents occur within 5
miles
of my home, I park my car 5 miles away and walk the rest.

Why don't you just move?


What and find a place 5 miles further from work?


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On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 23:23:31 GMT, h (Rand
Simberg) wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 23:07:30 GMT, in a place far, far away, "Greg D.
Moore \(Strider\)" made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

Hey, ever since I learned that 90% of all car accidents occur within 5 miles
of my home, I park my car 5 miles away and walk the rest.

Why don't you just move?

....Because he's an idiot?


OM

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