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Old July 6th 11, 11:19 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Old July 6th 11, 11:44 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Brian Thorn wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 15:19:13 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
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http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1107/06jwst/


Hallelujia! Too bad they didn't kill "the beast that ate the space
science budget" two years ago.


Was JWST's "trajectory" as it were any worse than that of Hubble?

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Old July 7th 11, 12:31 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 15:19:13 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
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http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1107/06jwst/


Hallelujia! Too bad they didn't kill "the beast that ate the space
science budget" two years ago.

Brian
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Old July 7th 11, 01:03 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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"bob haller" wrote in message
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http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1107/06jwst/


The republican house isn't in a position to dictate policy.


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Old July 7th 11, 01:39 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Jul 6, 5:03*pm, "Jonathan" wrote:
"bob haller" wrote in message

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http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1107/06jwst/


The republican house isn't in a position to dictate policy.


But their brain farts keep stinking up the joint.

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Old July 7th 11, 04:41 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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"Brad Guth" wrote in message
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On Jul 6, 5:03 pm, "Jonathan" wrote:
"bob haller" wrote in message


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http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1107/06jwst/


The republican house isn't in a position to dictate policy.


But their brain farts keep stinking up the joint.




If you want to see really stinky politics, Florida
has to be at near the top of the list. Sometimes
I just can't believe what they get away with.









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Old July 7th 11, 06:06 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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" If you want to see really stinky politics, Florida
has to be at near the top of the list. Sometimes
I just can't believe what they get away with.

To paraphrase Mel Brooks - "It's good to be a swing state with an election
coming up."


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Old July 7th 11, 06:26 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On Jul 6, 8:41*pm, "Jonathan" wrote:
"Brad Guth" wrote in message
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On Jul 6, 5:03 pm, "Jonathan" wrote:

"bob haller" wrote in message


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http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1107/06jwst/


The republican house isn't in a position to dictate policy.

But their brain farts keep stinking up the joint.


If you want to see really stinky politics, Florida
has to be at near the top of the list. Sometimes
I just can't believe what they get away with.

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That's true. Florida is a rogue nation of GOP/ZNR rednecks.
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Old July 7th 11, 07:11 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Pat Flannery wrote:
On 7/7/2011 10:15 AM, Anne Onime wrote:
I thought the Europeans were crazy flying
two telescopes on a single Ariane 5 to L1, but those didn't have
complex mechanisms to deploy.

Why didn't they just build another Hubble, bigger and better, but
serviceable robotically with replaceable batteries and reaction
wheels or something? How big a telescope can one fit inside a
Atlas V or Falcon Heavy anyway? Surely something Hubble-sized
would fit, right?


I keep wondering if the fact that the JWST was to be launched on a
Ariane V is playing any part in it maybe getting axed?


Ah, but now that Elon Musk and SpaceX have announced Falcon Heavy,
and, ostensibly it has even more lifting capacity than Ariane V:

http://www.spacex.com/falcon_heavy.php

("Please disregard the different heights and inclinations within the
table." ...as in "Disregard that man behind the curtain")

NASA and Congress could double-down and launch *two* JWSTs?-)

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Old July 7th 11, 07:15 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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"bob haller" wrote in message news:32457e27-8398-40e2-
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http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1107/06jwst/

And rightly so! After Hubble's later success NASA wanted to out-do
Hubble with something grand and came up with something monstrous. JWST
is too complex and therefore wildly expensive to build. Being located
at L1 the thing would have to work perfectly first time around and
that's going to be a challenge with so many moving parts. How far along
with development are they anyway? About a third? Except for a few
mirrors I haven't seen much. And if something snags we'll have a $10
billion turkey on our hands. I thought the Europeans were crazy flying
two telescopes on a single Ariane 5 to L1, but those didn't have
complex mechanisms to deploy.

Why didn't they just build another Hubble, bigger and better, but
serviceable robotically with replaceable batteries and reaction wheels
or something? How big a telescope can one fit inside a Atlas V or
Falcon Heavy anyway? Surely something Hubble-sized would fit, right?


 




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