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Old May 5th 09, 05:06 PM posted to uk.philosophy.atheism,gac.physics.astronomy,alt.astronomy.solar,alt.astronomy,sci.astro.planetarium
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On May 4, 5:26 pm, wrote:
On May 4, 1:52 pm, Double-A wrote: How did S. D. Rodrian find alt.astronomy?

This is not good.


SDR made a grand and splashy entry here 01 Jan. 2000 with his bequest
to the new millenium and was a prolific poster for a few years, then
dwindled off to just an occasional 'hit' once in a while.


just google "sdrodrian" and there I am!

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On May 5, 9:22 am, ZerkonXXXX wrote:
On Mon, 04 May 2009 11:43:44 -0700, sdrodrian wrote:
(especially if when we allow psychopaths
like Mohammed to define God,
then blood hell).


you know him enough to say this?


Yes, of course:

http://islamisbad.com/islamicterrorism.html

Shall we ripe through the psychopathic,
genocidal, sadistic god of moses?


No, thank you. I'd prefer to "ripe" about the
psychopathic, genocidal, sadistic wolf
of Lit'l Red Ridinghood. If you don't mind.

All religions are local.
Only science is universal.


Not exactly true.


I'm sorry: You obviously know of a religion
which is observed universally. Please tell!
Or, perhaps you know of a town or city
where the laws of science don't apply....?

Religion: Forms are local, function is universal.


So are economies AND clothing styles, but
I'm too old now to nit-pick it out with nit-wits...

S D Rodrian
http://poems.sdrodrian.com
http://physics.sdrodrian.com
http://MP3s.sdrodrian.com

All religions are local.
Only science is universal.


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Science: (See religion)





Atheism and Evidence


The problem with the realist/superstitious
controversy (as opposed to the secularism/
faith debate... which is strictly speaking
one of a political power-struggle over who
will direct society), is that THERE REALLY
IS NO GOD. Therefore a statement like the
one above ["there is no god"] always resolves
to a merely/purely personal testimony!!!

e.g. how in the heck can the atheist "KNOW"
there is no god IF HE'S NEVER FOUND HIM!
At worst, the atheist is doomed to an eternity
of futilely looking for Him... "Found Him yet?"
"... not yet. Still looking, though--"

The opposite, of course, is also just as true.
In other words, "there is a god" also resolves
to a merely/purely personal testimony:

Ask such a believer how he/she KNOWS there
is a god and they're likely to tell you "because
the flowers bloom in the spring" or some such
nonsense. Well, "No. That's manu Manure,
not god, is why the flowers bloom in the spring,
plus more Sun, et al."

The problem here is self-evident then:

If the believer KNOWS there is a god
he/she hath killed FAITH (in god). [The
only upside here is that maybe he/she
had a nice brunch with Him ...]

What both "witnesses" are saying is:
Believer: "I KNOW there is a god!"
Atheist: "I KNOW there is no god."

And both testimonies are equivalent: lies.

My advice is to study the brain's ultimate
function--which is to solve problems, to
overcome them. [And yet there are so many
problems in the world which no human brain
will ever solve/overcome... both simple
and complex (problems) too.]

So I wonder what might result from the
human brain not being able to overcome
all those unresolvable problems which
God now resolves so easily via a simple
transaction (prayer by another name).

I often tell people how "I know there is
no god but I still pray to him" and they tell
me they have no idea what I'm talking about.
(Which is incomprehensible to me, of course,
since THAT is the universal experience!)

Well, I have often spoken with persons who
swear to me (by God) they are truly atheists.
But then we get around to what's going on in
his/her brain when driving towards a distant
green light ... on a morning when they are very
late for a very important appointment ...

And then they know what I'm talking about:

Only a "robot" can be a true atheist--the rest
of us are forever bound to a personal dialogue
with with our universal alter-ego (GOD).

God is a very neat invention of the human brain.
It's when morons are allowed to define God
that we get into all sorts of trouble with God
(especially if/when we allow psychopaths like
Mohammed to define God, then bloody hell).

S D Rodrian
http://poems.sdrodrian.com
http://physics.sdrodrian.com
http://MP3s.sdrodrian.com

All religions are local.
Only science is universal.


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