Ladies and Gentlemen of the 51-L Jury

Alasdair McKie wrote in message
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You've answered the question 'how might valve leaks lead to an
RCS firing?' but my question was 'how might valve commands
show an RCS firing *where no other telemetry supports it*?"

No, I gave you a reason why valve commands are telemetered (to
differentiate between commanded and uncommanded pressure in
the chamber during certain circumstances).

If they weren't commanded, why do you want to see valve
commands?

When you learn about the various valves, you will be better
able to ask more specific questions. NASA should have some
background material on their websites for you to learn from.
There are also Frank and Oberg available to lead you to data.

--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)

It's because I do know that NASA has published studies which
apply; they simply were not specifically labeled as first-stage.

--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)


Alasdair McKie wrote in message
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In article , "John Maxson"
wrote:

Did NASA, or anyone else, ever publish a study of what (if any)
effect a firing RCS jet or jets would have during some or all of the
first 70-some seconds of launch?

Not to my knowledge.

So why do you feel an RCS firing is relevant, if it happened?

In article , "John Maxson"
wrote:

It's because I do know that NASA has published studies which
apply; they simply were not specifically labeled as first-stage.


And what might these studies be? Have you read any of them? Which ones
might be relevant to the discussion at hand?

Moe

Moe Blues wrote in message
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And what might these studies be?

Well, I've read what Walt Williams reported about 'zots' (and
much more) in the early eighties.

Have you read any of them?

I've also read research studies by Langley (and posted the title
of at least one) as to the amplification effects of yaw-jet firings
(and other atmospheric concerns). I've also read NASA papers
presented for the symposiums held after the first six flights.

Which ones might be relevant to the discussion at hand?

Probably the most relevant would be those by Marquardt, the
manufacturer, although I guess I learned more by talking face
to face with their lead engineers for atmospheric testing, and
with their high-ranking officials.

--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)

In article , "John Maxson"
wrote:

Moe Blues wrote in message
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And what might these studies be?

Well, I've read what Walt Williams reported about 'zots' (and
much more) in the early eighties.

Have you read any of them?

I've also read research studies by Langley (and posted the title
of at least one) as to the amplification effects of yaw-jet firings
(and other atmospheric concerns). I've also read NASA papers
presented for the symposiums held after the first six flights.

Which ones might be relevant to the discussion at hand?

Probably the most relevant would be those by Marquardt, the
manufacturer, although I guess I learned more by talking face
to face with their lead engineers for atmospheric testing, and
with their high-ranking officials.

--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)

Not quite the answer I was looking for. Titles, please?

Moe

On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:55:50 -0400, Moe Blues
wrote:

Not quite the answer I was looking for. Titles, please?

....Expected answer: "I already gave them."


OM

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To refresh my memory, would you please provide a link
showing that you posed precisely this question earlier?

--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)


Alasdair McKie wrote in message
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Still not the question I was asking, though: how any data
pertaining to the valve commands could prove an RCS firing
in the absence of any other telemetry readings to support it