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Old October 9th 04, 03:30 AM
rander3127
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Yes, finally, after a decade and a half, Meade is going
to introduce new high end eyepieces. While this may
seem like a good idea, I hesitate to endorse it for one
reason; Production will no doubt shift from Japan to
"some other" Oriental country. While it is time for Meade
to try to counter the monopoly in modern high end eyepieces
owned by TeleVue, it's my advice (based on using TeleVue
and Meade Japanese products versus the other production
areas like Taiwan and China) to pick up a couple of Japanese
Meade UWs, the 14mm, 8.8mm and the 6.7mm a good choices.

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Old October 9th 04, 05:20 AM
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Production will no doubt shift from Japan to
"some other" Oriental country.


Actually, they will be made in Haiti.

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Old October 9th 04, 04:04 PM
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Yes, finally, after a decade and a half, Meade is going
to introduce new high end eyepieces. While this may
seem like a good idea, I hesitate to endorse it for one
reason; Production will no doubt shift from Japan to
"some other" Oriental country.



Hi:

This makes absolutely no difference, Rich. Have you bought any Naglers or
Panoptics in the last decade or so? If so, go take a look at 'em. I'll wait...
;-)

Now, look at the barrel. You'll find "Taiwan" stamped on the side. What matters
is QA, not where they are made.



Peace,
Rod Mollise
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Old October 9th 04, 04:29 PM
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Rod Mollise wrote:
Yes, finally, after a decade and a half, Meade is going
to introduce new high end eyepieces. While this may
seem like a good idea, I hesitate to endorse it for one
reason; Production will no doubt shift from Japan to
"some other" Oriental country.




Hi:

This makes absolutely no difference, Rich. Have you bought any Naglers or
Panoptics in the last decade or so? If so, go take a look at 'em. I'll wait...
;-)

Now, look at the barrel. You'll find "Taiwan" stamped on the side. What matters
is QA, not where they are made.


Guess you don't know anyone who's trained their Indian or Chinese
replacement as a condition for receiving their severance pay.
Consumption in the global market should involve much more than a blind,
ignorant look at quality vs. price.
Taiwan and Japan are much more accountable to their populations
regarding the environmental impact of manufacturing, among other things
(albeit less than perfect).
Similarly to Middle East oil, Chinese and third world manufacturing
(Haiti?) have costs that may not be paid for years to come, but will
come due. Your dollars (Euros etc.) are your votes. Don't cast them in
ignorance.

Shawn
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Old October 9th 04, 04:50 PM
Rod Mollise
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Guess you don't know anyone who's trained their Indian or Chinese
replacement as a


Hi:

I know the TeleVue Taiwan-made eyepieces are excellent, and that's all I _need_
to know.

I do know that the TeleVues were made in Japan prior to that. As far as who
trained whom--if anyone--as their "replacement," I don't know, and neither do
you.



Peace,
Rod Mollise
Author of _Choosing and Using a Schmidt Cassegrain Telescope_
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Old October 9th 04, 06:25 PM
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On 09 Oct 2004 15:04:38 GMT, (Rod Mollise) wrote:


Yes, finally, after a decade and a half, Meade is going
to introduce new high end eyepieces. While this may
seem like a good idea, I hesitate to endorse it for one
reason; Production will no doubt shift from Japan to
"some other" Oriental country.



Hi:

This makes absolutely no difference, Rich. Have you bought any Naglers or
Panoptics in the last decade or so? If so, go take a look at 'em. I'll wait...
;-)

Now, look at the barrel. You'll find "Taiwan" stamped on the side. What matters
is QA, not where they are made.


The modern Naglers, etc, were never made in Japan. Only the first
Naglers and (I think) one of the Nagler 2s. So, modern Naglers are
what they are, there is nothing else to compare them to.
However, in the cases where I've been able to compare Japanese
versus Taiwanese 9mm, 7mm, 4.8mm Type 1 Naglers, Japanese
verus their later Taiwanese counterparts, the Japanese versions
have been slightly better. It's also the reason I found myself
re-buying a set once I'd realized this.
Obviously, there is no way to prove this,
so if someone wants to experiment, they need only pick up a few
and try it. I know my (for eg) 14mm Meade UW has bested older
(13mm, 12mm) Naglers in terms of sharpness so I expect that whatever
they decide to produce in China (or whereever) should have the
same quality. If it doesn't, however, then what I said about the
Naglers would seem to be further re-inforced.

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Old October 9th 04, 09:25 PM
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o compare them to.
However, in the cases where I've been able to compare Japanese
versus Taiwanese 9mm, 7mm, 4.8mm Type 1 Naglers, Japanese
verus their later Taiwanese counterparts, the Japanese versions
have been slightly better.


HI Rich:

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and I definitely respect your
opinions, but I must say that this is not the experience of most folks.

Peace,
Rod Mollise
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Old October 9th 04, 11:14 PM
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Rod Mollise wrote:
Guess you don't know anyone who's trained their Indian or Chinese
replacement as a



Hi:

I know the TeleVue Taiwan-made eyepieces are excellent, and that's all I _need_
to know.

I do know that the TeleVues were made in Japan prior to that. As far as who
trained whom--if anyone--as their "replacement," I don't know, and neither do
you.



Peace,
Rod Mollise
Author of _Choosing and Using a Schmidt Cassegrain Telescope_
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Rod,

Though the comment the previous poster made about job training their replacement
may or may not be true.

Hold on, I have a call.

I'm back now. It was one of those Indian Tech Specialist asking job
related questions. Those guys live in a completely different time zone.

Back to the subject.... I forgot what the subject was. This getting
old is really getting old.

Steve


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Old October 10th 04, 04:22 PM
Stephen Paul
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"Steve Sherman" wrote in message
...

Though the comment the previous poster made about job training their
replacement
may or may not be true.

Hold on, I have a call.

I'm back now. It was one of those Indian Tech Specialist asking job
related questions. Those guys live in a completely different time zone.

Back to the subject.... I forgot what the subject was. This getting
old is really getting old.


I'm sorry, Steve. I was just interrupted by corporate headquarters in
Bermuda.

What were you saying?


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Old October 11th 04, 05:55 AM
MR
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most folks - who? you have a poll? Where were you at the TMB fiasco?




Rod Mollise wrote:

o compare them to.
However, in the cases where I've been able to compare Japanese
versus Taiwanese 9mm, 7mm, 4.8mm Type 1 Naglers, Japanese
verus their later Taiwanese counterparts, the Japanese versions
have been slightly better.


HI Rich:

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and I definitely respect your
opinions, but I must say that this is not the experience of most folks.

Peace,
Rod Mollise
Author of _Choosing and Using a Schmidt Cassegrain Telescope_
Like SCTs and MCTs?
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