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Old December 16th 03, 03:40 AM
C. Newport
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Can anyone identify the section of missile airframe shown at the link below?
The person in the image is the prefect of the Maryland Delaware Rocketry
Association and this fragment reportedly washed up on an island in the
Caribbean.

C. Newport

http://www.mdrocketry.org/photos/images/NEILROCK.JPG


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Old December 16th 03, 04:01 AM
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"C. Newport" wrote in message
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Can anyone identify the section of missile airframe shown at the link

below?
The person in the image is the prefect of the Maryland Delaware Rocketry
Association and this fragment reportedly washed up on an island in the
Caribbean.


I can't identify it but I can tell you where Challenger's left wing lies.

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Old December 16th 03, 04:22 AM
OM
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:40:31 -0500, "C. Newport"
wrote:

Can anyone identify the section of missile airframe shown at the link below?
The person in the image is the prefect of the Maryland Delaware Rocketry
Association and this fragment reportedly washed up on an island in the
Caribbean.


....Holy frap! They found a piece of Major Nelson's Redstone!!!

OM

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Old December 16th 03, 06:53 AM
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"C. Newport" wrote:

Can anyone identify the section of missile airframe shown at the link below?
The person in the image is the prefect of the Maryland Delaware Rocketry
Association and this fragment reportedly washed up on an island in the
Caribbean.
http://www.mdrocketry.org/photos/images/NEILROCK.JPG


It's an odd one, I don't think I've ever seen "UNITED STATES" on the
side of a bird in different colors, yet the "D" would plainly be on
the black part of the panel.

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Old December 16th 03, 03:53 PM
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"C. Newport" wrote in message ...
Can anyone identify the section of missile airframe shown at the link below?
The person in the image is the prefect of the Maryland Delaware Rocketry
Association and this fragment reportedly washed up on an island in the
Caribbean.

C. Newport

http://www.mdrocketry.org/photos/images/NEILROCK.JPG


Looks like the remains of a solid fueled rocket to me.
Possibilities include Blue Scout or Blue Scout Jr.,
early Polaris, Pershing, and maybe Minuteman, but I've
not yet seen a pre-launch photo of anything that matches
this precisely. I don't immediately recall seeing
"United States" on the side of military missiles unless
they were flying for NASA.

- Ed Kyle
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Old December 16th 03, 04:54 PM
C. Newport
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What's odd to me is that the word "UNITED" crosses over from a white to a
black background, meaning that the D would have had to be a different color.
It's definitely black lettering and I think it's from a liquid fuel vehicle,
as the structure appears to be honeycomb material. I'll check with Neil to
see what else he can remember about it. Also, it may have fallen onto the
island as opposed to washing ashore.

C. Newport


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Old December 16th 03, 05:03 PM
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Which island, and when?

Could be a panel from a section of a Saturn-1 first stage?

Thanks for sharing, keep us informed!

JimO
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"C. Newport" wrote in message
...
Can anyone identify the section of missile airframe shown at the link

below?
The person in the image is the prefect of the Maryland Delaware Rocketry
Association and this fragment reportedly washed up on an island in the
Caribbean.

C. Newport

http://www.mdrocketry.org/photos/images/NEILROCK.JPG




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Old December 16th 03, 07:41 PM
Chris Jones
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"C. Newport" writes:

What's odd to me is that the word "UNITED" crosses over from a white to a
black background, meaning that the D would have had to be a different color.


IS it the word UNITED? It looks to me like the letters U N I T are all
sans-serif capital, and rather narrow. What you are calling the E looks
like it has serifs, but I don't see an E there; it looks like an I-beam
on its side. So I'm more inclined to see the word UNIT, and I don't
have a handle on what comes afterward.
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Old December 16th 03, 08:39 PM
ed kyle
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"C. Newport" wrote in message ...
What's odd to me is that the word "UNITED" crosses over from a white to a
black background, meaning that the D would have had to be a different color.
It's definitely black lettering and I think it's from a liquid fuel vehicle,
as the structure appears to be honeycomb material. I'll check with Neil to
see what else he can remember about it. Also, it may have fallen onto the
island as opposed to washing ashore.

C. Newport


A liquid propellant tank would not be made out of a
honeycomb material. We might, however, be looking at
a piece of external insulation. Specifically, I'm
thinking this might be an old fiberglass insulation
panel from one of the early Centaur stages (Atlas-
Centaur). See, for example:

"http://www.planet4589.org/space/images/lv/64F09.html"
and
"http://www.planet4589.org/space/images/lv/64082.html"
and
"http://www.planet4589.org/space/images/lv/68068.html"
and
"http://www.planet4589.org/space/images/lv/89077.html"

There were, as I recall, four external insulation
panels on the Centaur hydrogen tank. These were
jettisoned not long before the Atlas and Centaur
stages separated, so it would not be unusual for
one of them to end up washed, or blown, onto a downrange
island.

Several different roll patterns were used on the first
few Centaurs, which might explain the block black areas
near the base of this part. The stripe across the top
and the style of lettering sure looks consistent.

- Ed Kyle
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Old December 16th 03, 08:55 PM
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Chris Jones wrote:
"C. Newport" writes:


What's odd to me is that the word "UNITED" crosses over from a white to a
black background, meaning that the D would have had to be a different color.



IS it the word UNITED? It looks to me like the letters U N I T are all
sans-serif capital, and rather narrow. What you are calling the E looks
like it has serifs, but I don't see an E there; it looks like an I-beam
on its side. So I'm more inclined to see the word UNIT, and I don't
have a handle on what comes afterward.


I am with Chris on this one. That last character looks more
like a word divider than an "E".


 




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