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Old October 8th 03, 01:47 PM
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 23:27:11 GMT, John Steinberg
stepped up to the plate and batted:

Chris L Peterson wrote:

Nice try, John, but it seems that it has become... THE THREAD THAT WOULDN'T
DIE.


That would be excellent with an appropriate echo chamber effect. Coming
to a Drive-in near you this summer:

{{{{{{{{THE THREAD THAT WOULDN'T DIE}}}}}}}}}

Starring Hugh Beaumont, Donna Reed, Fred Mac Murray, Sebastian Cabot and
Jerry Mathers as The Beaver.

Hey. You forgot John Saxon and the lovely Lisa Cranston.

G../0
"The radio is broken..."



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Old October 9th 03, 03:38 AM
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"Cassini" spacecraft@saturn wrote in message ...

Heh. For an astronomical analogy, consider Scott McPherson, a known
Celestron basher. For Scott, Meade is a religion - this extreme bias makes
him completely unable to say anything positive about Celestron, no matter
what Celestron does. If Celestron produced a goto Dob, he would say
it was the worst thing ever. If it was by Meade, it would of course be the
best thing since sliced bread.


Sounds like my brother; Republicans are incapable of doing wrong and
Democrats are incapable of doing right. (I wonder what he thinks of
left-wing Republicans such as Governor Arnold.)

Clear skies!

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Old October 9th 03, 04:24 AM
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 13:39:09 GMT, John Steinberg ...reflected:

John Steinberg wrote:

Sorry, but this one was just too stupid to let me slough off.

Arkanas


*Cough* Arkansas...


Think nothing of it, as over half of the people who live
there can't spell it, either.

I spell it, "Ar-KIN-saw," and pronounce it that way, too.

...or if you enjoy the Clinton-era joke cycle, Arkansauce
(as in what was found on Monica's blue dress.)


Alan
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Old October 9th 03, 04:29 AM
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 13:24:51 GMT, John Steinberg ...reflected:

snip
People of California, if you're reading this, do not tarry, do dawdle,
do not stop to get a Slurpee. Get thee to polls and vote! Vote once,
vote twice, vote thrice, but for pete's sake, check to make sure your
chads are not hanging! You're what, $38 billion in the red? Do you
*really* want to have pay for a recount? NJ, Arkanas and West Virginia
just kicked your proverbial educational tail in the smartest state award:

http://www.morganquitno.com/edrank03.htm

How about a little self-respect and pride, people!?


picks at feet...

Mississippi made it all the way "up" to #48!

...then picks nose

Alan
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Old October 12th 03, 04:10 PM
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P From: (Pierre)
P Subject: Light pollution: an environmental fad?
P Date: 7 Oct 2003 12:54:06 -0700
P Organization:
http://groups.google.com
P
P The Times (of London) is asking its readers: Is Light Pollution just
P another environmental fad?
P Please, keep your contributions short and to the point and send them
P to :
P quoting their article on the Tuesday October 7 edition where their
P science correspondent Mark Henderson considers the report of the
P Inquiry on'Light Pollution and Astronomy' compiled by the Science and
P Technology Select Committee of the House of Commons, UK Parliament.
P
P This report can be accessed at:
P
http://www.publications.parliament.u...tech/747/74702.
P htm

Well, later in October I'm the delegate from NYSkies at the
pow-wow of New York City eco & enviro orgs. It's a major confab with,
I'm told, a few dozen groups to discuss ways to enhance the City's
enviro efforts and projects. One of them is the mitigation of luminous
graffiti.
One project I'm sure will be discussed is the City's announcement
on Thursday, 9th October, that it will start replacing all of its
newsagent booths on streets with new star-safe ones. This program
starts in the spring, after design and contracts are done up.

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Old October 12th 03, 04:10 PM
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MD From: "mark d. doiron"
MD Subject: Sky & Telescope Online Archive - Good?
MD Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 13:46:26 GMT
MD Organization: Cox Communications
MD
MD i'd recommend that magazine publishers stop trying to convert the web to the
MD magazine paradigm. to the end user, .pdf is good for one thing: allows
MD printing a document as the person who prepared it intended it to look. that
MD makes it wonderful for things like forms. if there's no intent for the end
MD user to print it, there's no need for .pdf. further, for 90+% of the web (a
MD number i pulled out of thin air, so please don't quibble with me about it),
MD the exact appearance of a web page on a browser is irrelevant if the person
MD who wrote it would just let go of thinking he/she has to control its
MD appearance down to the nth degree. it's the info that's king, not the
MD minutae of its layout.

It's the webpages that have a wide sidebar onthe left side, for
buttons or ads, that turn me off. The text part often gets clipped at
the right edge when printing the page. It's like having a 10cm left
margin!

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Old October 12th 03, 04:10 PM
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TJ From: "Thor Jacobson"
TJ Subject: Stellar Radiant Flux
TJ Organization: Monarch Cablesystems Ltd
TJ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 10:43:58 -0600

A very excellent question! The definition I grew up with is that
zero, 0.0, apparent magnitude is rqual to 2.65 microlumnes/meter2. A
related definition for radiation outside the optical is that zero
magnitude equals the incoming radiation flux from Vega in the same
wavelength band.
Once a long while ago I reverse engineered the definition from the
energy required to trigger photographic film and traced back the light
cone from the film, thru the lens, to parallel rays outside the
camera. I had to assume absorption in the lens, taking the value from
the lens specs, and got a flux within about 10% of the value I give
above.


TJ In Astronomy books, discussions on stellar magnitudes always seem to focus on r
TJ elative intensities. I have not been able to find a reference to what the absol
TJ ute energy flux is. The establishment of the magnitude scale always starts with
TJ the observation that stars differing by 5
TJ magnitudes differ in flux by roughly a factor of 100. I cannot find a reference
TJ , for example, to what the radiant flux is for a first
TJ magnitude star, be it in photons/meter*2, nanowatts/m*2 or whatever. Is there a
TJ reference to this quantity? I realize that it may depend on the star type, as
TJ photon energy is a function of wavelength. Also, the spectral response of the e
TJ ye to low light levels (rod response) may make it difficult to give a precise
TJ value. Thanks in adance for any help you can give me on this.

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Old October 12th 03, 04:10 PM
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SW From: Sam Wormley
SW Subject: Stellar Radiant Flux
SW Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 18:00:10 GMT
SW
SW From Kenneth Lang's _Astrophysical Data: Planets and Stars_, p. 24:
SW
SW 1 magnitude-zero star = 2.63 * 10^-6 lumens/cm^2

Are you SURE?? Not .../meter^2?

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Old December 5th 03, 04:17 AM
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Default NYC Events December 1/ 7


NYC EVENTS FOR DECEMBER 2003
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John Pazmino
NYSkies


The following home astronomy activities in New York are operated
by various organizations. A couple extra activities of special
importance to City astronomers may be included.
For a handy reminder of these events, check the calendar in the
NYSkies Yahoo group. To join NYSkies, see the 'NYSkies' section below.
All times are Eastern Savings Time.

Day 2003 event
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Sat - XX Dec - 15:30 - XXX - MH - National Space Society meeting
DATE AND PLACE NOT SET; INQUIRE AT WEBSITE OR EMAIL
www.nssnyc.org,

Mon - 1 Dec - all day - Amer Mus Natl Hist - MH - Rose Ctr tours
Thru 31 December, several during day. Inquire at Info
Desk for times and RdV spot. Free. 212-769-5100.

Mon - 1 Dec - all day - MH, BX, SI - library book donations
Indefinite. NY Publ Liby accepts donated books to
offset city funding cuts. Bring unneeded astronomy,
science, mathematics, other books to local branch.

Mon - 1 Dec - all day - World Fincl Ctr - MH - WTC memorial exhibit
Thru 31 December. Winter Garden. Dioramas and cases for
the 8 finalist designs for the World Trade Center
memorial. Free.

Mon - 1 Dec - 18:00 - CUNY Grad Ctr - MH - science play
'Chaos', music and pix of mathematical chaos in
phys/astro. Free. 212-817-8215, web.gc.cuny.edu/cepp

Mon - 1 Dec - 19:30 - Hayden Plm - MH - Distinguished Authors
Indoor lecture and clearsky starviewing. $14 adm.
212-769-5100

Mon - 1 Dec - 20:00 - Coll of SI - SI - clearsky starviewing
Astrophys Obsy. $3 adm. Cancelled for clouds.
supernova7.apsc.csi.cuny.edu, 718-982-3260

Tue - 2 Dec - 17:00 - City Hall - MH - Holiday tree lighting
In front of City Hall. Free.
www.nyc.gov/parks

Tue - 2 Dec - 18:30 - Hayden Plm - MH - Virtual Universe
Live skyshow of computer graphics and astro databases.
$12 adm. 212-769-5100

Wed - 3 Dec - 19:30 - York Coll - QN - clearsky starviewing
Room 2E01. Cancelled for clouds. Free.
natsci.york.cuny.edu/~yco, 718-262-2082

Wed - 3 Dec - 20:30 - Old Westbury - LI - Astro Soc of LI meeting
NY Inst of Techy, Schure Audm. Free. www.asliclub.org

Wed - 3 Dec - 21:00 - Poughkeepsie - NY - clearsky starviewing
Vassar Coll Obsy. Free. Cancelled for clouds.
physicsandastronomy.vassar.edu/observatory.html,
845-437-7340

Wed - 3 Dec - 19:30 - Greenwich - CT - A S of Greenwich mtg
Bruce Museum. Free. www.geocities.com/astrogreenwich

Wed - 3 Dec - 20:45 - Rockefeller Ctr - MH - holiday tree lighting
Rockefeller Plaza. Free. www.rockefellercenter.com

Thu - 4 Dec - 18:30 - AAA-HQ - MH - Recent Astronomy Seminar
Discussion of current astronomy using popular and
technical literature. Free.

Thu - 4 Dec - 19:00 - Inwood Hill Pk - MH - science lecture
Inwood Hill Natr Ctr. 'Big Apple aviation', history of
air flight in New York City. Free.
www.nyc.gov/parks

Thu - 4 Dec - 19:30 - Upper Montclair - NJ - clearsky starviewing
N Jersey Astro Gp. Montclair St Uv, Richardson Hall.
Free. Cancelled for clouds. njagweb.tripod.com.

Thu - 4 Dec - 20:00 - Middletown - NJ - S*T*A*R meeting
King of Kings Lutheran Ch. Free.
www.starastronomy.org

Thu - 4 Dec - 20:00 - Mystic Seaport - CT - Discover Astronomy
Seaport Plm. Indoor lecture and clearsky starviewing.
$8 adm. www.mysticseaport.org, 860-572-5322


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Old December 5th 03, 04:17 AM
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Continued from previous message.

Fri - 5 Dec - 18:00 - Amer Mus Natl Hist - MH - Amat Astro Assn lect
'Ultra high-energy cosmic rays', Dr Glennys Farrar, NYU
Kaufmann Thtr. Free, ask at entry gate for 'astronomy'
lecture.

Fri - 5 Dec - 19:00 - Yonkers - NY - Westchester Amat Astro mtg
Hudson Rv Mus, Andrus Plm. 19h social, 20h lecture.
Free.
www.westchesterastronomers.org

Fri - 5 Dec - 19:00 - Syosset - LI - Meade product demos
Berger Brothers Cameras, 226 W Jericho Tk. Free.
www.berger-bros.com, 516-496-1000.

Fri - 5 Dec - 19:00 - Cranford - NJ - Amat Astro Inc lecture
Union Co Coll, Sperry Obsy. Indoor talk, clearsky
starviewing. Free. www.asterism.org

fri - 5 Dec - 19:30 - Stony Bk - LI - astronomy lecture
SUNY Stony Brook, Earth & Spc Sci Hall, Room 001.
Lecture & clearsky starviewing. Free.
www.ess.sunysb.edu/astro

Fri - 5 Dec - 20:00 - Stamford - CT - clearsky starviewing
Stamford Mus & Natr Ctr, Obsy. $3 adm. Cancelled for
clouds. www.stamfordmuseum.org/astronomy.html

Sat - 6 Dec - all day - Hayden Plm - MH - holiday discount
20% discount, not 10%, at Plm bookshop for members of
AMNH. Same applies to other shops in Museum.

Sat - 6 Dec - 12:00 - Central Pk - cultural bus tour
Loeb Boathouse Cafe'. Free, first come, first seated,
space is limited. www.nyc.gov/parks

Sat - 6 Dec - 15:00 - Central Pk - MH - science lecture
Dana Discovery Ctr. 'Big Apple aviation', history of
air flight in New York City. Free. www.nyc.gov/parks

Sat - 6 Dec - 18:00 - Southold - LI - clearsky starviewing
Custer Inst. Cancelled for clouds. Free.
www.custerobservatory.org

Sat - 6 Dec - 18:00 - Ward Pound Ridge - NY - clearsky starviewing
Westchester Amat Astro, Meadow Picnic Area. Cancelled
for clouds. Free. www.westchesterastronomers.org

Sat - 6 Dec - 19:00 - Amityville - LI - Meade product demos
Berger Brothers Cameras, 209 Broadway. Free.
www.berger-bros.com, 631-264-4160

Sun - 7 Dec - all day - Hayden Plm - MH - holiday discount
20% discount, not 10%, at Plm bookshop for members of
AMNH. Same applies to other shops in Museum.

Sun - 7 Dec - 13:15 - Uniondale - LI - Amat Obsrs Soc meeting
Nassau Commty Coll, Bdg F, Rm 129. Free. www.aosny.org

Sun - 7 Dec - 19:30 - Boonton - NJ - Sheep Hill Astro Assn mtg
Boonton Town Hall. Free. www.uacnj.org/clubs/shaa.htm

Mon - 8 Dec - 17:00 - Rockefeller Univ - MH - science lecture
'Science and the city', Dr Ellis Rubinstein
Aldrich Rockefeller Dining Hall. Free.
www.rockefeller.edu/lectures.php

Mon - 8 Dec - 19:00 - Marine Pk - BK - science lecture
Salt Marsh Natr Ctr. 'Big Apple aviation', history of
air flight in New York City. Free. www.nyc.gov/parks

Mon - 8 Dec - 19:30 - Hayden Plm - MH - Frontiers in Astrophysics
Indoor lecture and clearsky starviewing. $14 adm.
212-769-5100

Mon - 8 Dec - 20:00 - Coll of SI - SI - clearsky starviewing
Astrophys Obsy. $3 adm. Cancelled for clouds.
supernova7.apsc.csi.cuny.edu, 718-982-3260

Tue - 9 Dec - 17:30 - Sci Ind Biz Liby - MH - science lecture
'Winged gospel' on Wright Brothers and other
flights. Free. 212-592-7000, www.nypl.org/research/sibl

Tue - 9 Dec - 19:00 - Greenwich - CT - clearsky starviewing
Astro Soc of Greenwich. Julian Curtis Elem
Schl. Cancelled for clouds. Free. ,
www.geocities.com/astrogreenwich

Tue - 9 Dec - 20:00 - Princeton - NJ - A A A of Princeton mtg
Princeton Uv, Peyton Hall. Free
www.princetonastronomy.org

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