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Old April 26th 05, 08:04 PM
Uncle Bob
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Default John Edwards=John Edmund=John Patterson=John Jacobson=John Shuttlebower=RyanWalters???

Usenet is certainly the land of the free and home of the strange:

An odd pattern has emerged...
The following posters all
1.) Post from the same earthlink subnet
2.) Use the name John, Jason or Ryan
3.) use a .net in their "From" line in headers.
4.) Have the same version of OE

And the above is true for a well-remembered troll who posted here a
while back, then claimed it was his son "Seth" was really responsible
for the posts, then posed as "Seth" to apologize.

I'm posting these headers so you can compare yourself. I just noticed
that a lot of slightly odd postings were coming from
newsread1.news.alt.earthlink.net

Then I noticed that most of them were from someone named "John ___",
then I noticed the .net in the from lines, the version numbers of the
newsreaders, and so on. Multiple personalities, I surmise.


Funny, huh? Sure hope my back feels better soon so I can do something
productive. ;-)

Clear Skies,
Uncle Bob




John Edwards

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John Edmund
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John Jacobson
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From: "John Jacobson"
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur
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L9vWd.76747$uc.66000@trnddc04
Subject: God's Science At Last! - Day of Wrath Survival Manual
Available Now!
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John Patterson
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John Shuttlebower
From: "John Shuttlebower"
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur
Subject: proper way to say "Uranus"?
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John Shuttlebower as "Jason"
From: "John Shuttlebower"
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur
Subject: Uranus pronounciation update
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First of all, thanks to all who responded to my previous thread concerning
how to properly pronounce "Uranus". Yesterday, I gave my oral presentation
on the solar system. Up until the last minute, in my mind, I determined to
say it as either you-ray-nus or your-ah-nus. I decided on the latter about
10 seconds before saying it. The result was a very good presentation, there
were no disruptions, and I got an A-. The minus being because I wobble a
bit sometimes I think because of nerves.

Thanks again to all,
Jason

Ryan Walters:
From: "Ryan Walters"
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur
References:
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Subject: Quickly, Before Terry Schiavo Dies!
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  #2  
Old April 28th 05, 11:44 PM
John Edwards
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Yeah, so what's your point Uncle Bob? Are these people hurting you in any
way? Wasn't the one who was doing the most damage politely removed and, in
fact, an open email address had been provided to receive any final
complaints about that person? And I do believe that particular post
explained what had happened and why those posts occurred. Ever consider
that maybe, just maybe, students have access to the same computer and are
told NOT to use real names so they're not spammed to death. Perhaps as many
as 20 astronomy students have access to usenet during most hours of the day
from the same computer. Who knows. I can tell you one thing though in your
little analysis here... John Patterson should NOT be among the names you
list... at least not posting from this computer.

"John"



"Uncle Bob" wrote in message
g.com...
Usenet is certainly the land of the free and home of the strange:

An odd pattern has emerged...
The following posters all
1.) Post from the same earthlink subnet
2.) Use the name John, Jason or Ryan
3.) use a .net in their "From" line in headers.
4.) Have the same version of OE

And the above is true for a well-remembered troll who posted here a
while back, then claimed it was his son "Seth" was really responsible
for the posts, then posed as "Seth" to apologize.

I'm posting these headers so you can compare yourself. I just noticed
that a lot of slightly odd postings were coming from
newsread1.news.alt.earthlink.net

Then I noticed that most of them were from someone named "John ___",
then I noticed the .net in the from lines, the version numbers of the
newsreaders, and so on. Multiple personalities, I surmise.


Funny, huh? Sure hope my back feels better soon so I can do something
productive. ;-)

Clear Skies,
Uncle Bob




John Edwards

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From: "John Edwards"
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur
Subject: planetary imaging with an achro refractor question
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John Edmund
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John Jacobson
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Available Now!
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John Patterson
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From: "John Patterson"
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John Shuttlebower
From: "John Shuttlebower"
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur
Subject: proper way to say "Uranus"?
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John Shuttlebower as "Jason"
From: "John Shuttlebower"
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur
Subject: Uranus pronounciation update
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First of all, thanks to all who responded to my previous thread concerning
how to properly pronounce "Uranus". Yesterday, I gave my oral

presentation
on the solar system. Up until the last minute, in my mind, I determined

to
say it as either you-ray-nus or your-ah-nus. I decided on the latter

about
10 seconds before saying it. The result was a very good presentation,

there
were no disruptions, and I got an A-. The minus being because I wobble a
bit sometimes I think because of nerves.

Thanks again to all,
Jason

Ryan Walters:
From: "Ryan Walters"
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur
References:
JsX0e.23139$v26.2855@fed1read06
Subject: Quickly, Before Terry Schiavo Dies!
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  #3  
Old April 29th 05, 02:35 AM
Uncle Bob
external usenet poster
 
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Oh, OK.
I guess that explains it.
I think the students that are posting at 11pm, 1am and 3am are really
dedicated.
Give them a big thumbs up for me, will you?
Clear skies!

Uncle Bob

John Edwards wrote:
Yeah, so what's your point Uncle Bob? Are these people hurting you in any
way? Wasn't the one who was doing the most damage politely removed and, in
fact, an open email address had been provided to receive any final
complaints about that person? And I do believe that particular post
explained what had happened and why those posts occurred. Ever consider
that maybe, just maybe, students have access to the same computer and are
told NOT to use real names so they're not spammed to death. Perhaps as many
as 20 astronomy students have access to usenet during most hours of the day
from the same computer. Who knows. I can tell you one thing though in your
little analysis here... John Patterson should NOT be among the names you
list... at least not posting from this computer.

"John"



"Uncle Bob" wrote in message
g.com...

Usenet is certainly the land of the free and home of the strange:

An odd pattern has emerged...
The following posters all
1.) Post from the same earthlink subnet
2.) Use the name John, Jason or Ryan
3.) use a .net in their "From" line in headers.
4.) Have the same version of OE

And the above is true for a well-remembered troll who posted here a
while back, then claimed it was his son "Seth" was really responsible
for the posts, then posed as "Seth" to apologize.

I'm posting these headers so you can compare yourself. I just noticed
that a lot of slightly odd postings were coming from
newsread1.news.alt.earthlink.net

Then I noticed that most of them were from someone named "John ___",
then I noticed the .net in the from lines, the version numbers of the
newsreaders, and so on. Multiple personalities, I surmise.


Funny, huh? Sure hope my back feels better soon so I can do something
productive. ;-)

Clear Skies,
Uncle Bob




John Edwards

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From: "John Edwards"
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur
Subject: planetary imaging with an achro refractor question
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John Edmund
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From: "John Edmund"
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Subject: CCD misunderstanding/ confusion
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John Jacobson
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From: "John Jacobson"
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John Shuttlebower as "Jason"
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First of all, thanks to all who responded to my previous thread concerning
how to properly pronounce "Uranus". Yesterday, I gave my oral


presentation

on the solar system. Up until the last minute, in my mind, I determined


to

say it as either you-ray-nus or your-ah-nus. I decided on the latter


about

10 seconds before saying it. The result was a very good presentation,


there

were no disruptions, and I got an A-. The minus being because I wobble a
bit sometimes I think because of nerves.

Thanks again to all,
Jason

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  #4  
Old April 29th 05, 03:05 AM
John Edwards
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Re-read my words, "buddy": ".....20 astronomy students have access to usenet
during most hours of the day
from the same computer."

Now, how many hours on Earth are there in a day?

Now, find yourself something constructive as you thought about originally
instead of trying to open a can of relatively quiet worms. Got it? Good.

"Uncle Bob" wrote in message
ng.com...
Oh, OK.
I guess that explains it.
I think the students that are posting at 11pm, 1am and 3am are really
dedicated.
Give them a big thumbs up for me, will you?
Clear skies!

Uncle Bob

John Edwards wrote:
Yeah, so what's your point Uncle Bob? Are these people hurting you in

any
way? Wasn't the one who was doing the most damage politely removed and,

in
fact, an open email address had been provided to receive any final
complaints about that person? And I do believe that particular post
explained what had happened and why those posts occurred. Ever consider
that maybe, just maybe, students have access to the same computer and

are
told NOT to use real names so they're not spammed to death. Perhaps as

many
as 20 astronomy students have access to usenet during most hours of the

day
from the same computer. Who knows. I can tell you one thing though in

your
little analysis here... John Patterson should NOT be among the names you
list... at least not posting from this computer.

"John"



"Uncle Bob" wrote in message
g.com...

Usenet is certainly the land of the free and home of the strange:

An odd pattern has emerged...
The following posters all
1.) Post from the same earthlink subnet
2.) Use the name John, Jason or Ryan
3.) use a .net in their "From" line in headers.
4.) Have the same version of OE

And the above is true for a well-remembered troll who posted here a
while back, then claimed it was his son "Seth" was really responsible
for the posts, then posed as "Seth" to apologize.

I'm posting these headers so you can compare yourself. I just noticed
that a lot of slightly odd postings were coming from
newsread1.news.alt.earthlink.net

Then I noticed that most of them were from someone named "John ___",
then I noticed the .net in the from lines, the version numbers of the
newsreaders, and so on. Multiple personalities, I surmise.


Funny, huh? Sure hope my back feels better soon so I can do something
productive. ;-)

Clear Skies,
Uncle Bob




John Edwards

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John Shuttlebower

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First of all, thanks to all who responded to my previous thread

concerning
how to properly pronounce "Uranus". Yesterday, I gave my oral


presentation

on the solar system. Up until the last minute, in my mind, I determined


to

say it as either you-ray-nus or your-ah-nus. I decided on the latter


about

10 seconds before saying it. The result was a very good presentation,


there

were no disruptions, and I got an A-. The minus being because I wobble

a
bit sometimes I think because of nerves.

Thanks again to all,
Jason

Ryan Walters:
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  #5  
Old April 29th 05, 06:53 AM
Uncle Bob
external usenet poster
 
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Drama A
Creative Writing C-


Clear Skies!
Uncle Bob

John Edwards wrote:
Re-read my words, "buddy": ".....20 astronomy students have access to usenet
during most hours of the day
from the same computer."

Now, how many hours on Earth are there in a day?

Now, find yourself something constructive as you thought about originally
instead of trying to open a can of relatively quiet worms. Got it? Good.

"Uncle Bob" wrote in message
ng.com...

Oh, OK.
I guess that explains it.
I think the students that are posting at 11pm, 1am and 3am are really
dedicated.
Give them a big thumbs up for me, will you?
Clear skies!

Uncle Bob

John Edwards wrote:

Yeah, so what's your point Uncle Bob? Are these people hurting you in


any

way? Wasn't the one who was doing the most damage politely removed and,


in

fact, an open email address had been provided to receive any final
complaints about that person? And I do believe that particular post
explained what had happened and why those posts occurred. Ever consider
that maybe, just maybe, students have access to the same computer and


are

told NOT to use real names so they're not spammed to death. Perhaps as


many

as 20 astronomy students have access to usenet during most hours of the


day

from the same computer. Who knows. I can tell you one thing though in


your

little analysis here... John Patterson should NOT be among the names you
list... at least not posting from this computer.

"John"



"Uncle Bob" wrote in message
ting.com...


Usenet is certainly the land of the free and home of the strange:

An odd pattern has emerged...
The following posters all
1.) Post from the same earthlink subnet
2.) Use the name John, Jason or Ryan
3.) use a .net in their "From" line in headers.
4.) Have the same version of OE

And the above is true for a well-remembered troll who posted here a
while back, then claimed it was his son "Seth" was really responsible
for the posts, then posed as "Seth" to apologize.

I'm posting these headers so you can compare yourself. I just noticed
that a lot of slightly odd postings were coming from
newsread1.news.alt.earthlink.net

Then I noticed that most of them were from someone named "John ___",
then I noticed the .net in the from lines, the version numbers of the
newsreaders, and so on. Multiple personalities, I surmise.


Funny, huh? Sure hope my back feels better soon so I can do something
productive. ;-)

Clear Skies,
Uncle Bob




John Edwards

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First of all, thanks to all who responded to my previous thread


concerning

how to properly pronounce "Uranus". Yesterday, I gave my oral

presentation


on the solar system. Up until the last minute, in my mind, I determined

to


say it as either you-ray-nus or your-ah-nus. I decided on the latter

about


10 seconds before saying it. The result was a very good presentation,

there


were no disruptions, and I got an A-. The minus being because I wobble


a

bit sometimes I think because of nerves.

Thanks again to all,
Jason

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