Curiosity has landed and is alive!

On Aug 8, 8:15*pm, kensi wrote:
On 07/08/2012 4:54 PM, oriel36 wrote:

That is just one of many things and it
would be nice to encounter an individual who can handle the
observation that planets are organized as liquid nearer the Sun and
gas at greater distances if you are so intent in imaging an
astronomical without a surface.

Mars appears to be a solid ball of rock. The lack of a global magnetic
field suggests it lacks a molten core.


Oh brother ! ,you are not doing too well are you.

If things were fine and men were actually interested in evolutionary
geology,we would be discussing why the residual rotation of Venus
means that its tectonic activity amounts to volcanism and why it has
no appreciable spherical deviation while the Earth has a fairly rapid
rotation,a 26 mile spherical deviation and a very active fractured
crust sitting on top of a low viscosity fluid.

The spherical deviation of Mars is roughly in the same ballpark as the
Earth but volcanic activity may still exist (Olympus Mons) but not an
active fractured crust.

The other thing is that CME's act similar to iron filings on a sheet
covering a magnet in tending to expose rotational traits and possibly
into the magnetic fields of planets and especially where Venus has a
weak signal due to its lack of differential rotation in the fluid
interior whereas the signal coming from the Earth is fortunately
strong.

There are dozens and dozens of things to discuss by moving information
around effectively and while the buzzword of comparing planetary
traits now with a rover on Mars,I have been doing it for years by
using data from all sorts of sources.

You probably believe the Earth is a rocky planet and even when direct
observation of it ls ow viscosity fluid in contact with the surface
crust is seen pouring through every crustal boundary or volcanic
eruption,researchers still can't make the connection with differential
rotation or the uneven rotational gradient between equatorial and
polar latitudes seen in all rotating celestial objects with exposed
viscous compositions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAxj2...feature=fvwrel

The ugly and unsightly stationary Earth 'convection cells' that people
are so fond of match their lethargic intellects for who can cross
reference planetary traits and come up with common principles which
apply to climate,evolutionary geology,field magnetism or many,many
other topics ?.


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"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks

On 08/08/2012 2:54 PM, oriel36 wrote:
On Aug 8, 8:15 pm, kensi wrote:
On 07/08/2012 4:54 PM, oriel36 wrote:

That is just one of many things and it
would be nice to encounter an individual who can handle the
observation that planets are organized as liquid nearer the Sun and
gas at greater distances if you are so intent in imaging an
astronomical without a surface.

Mars appears to be a solid ball of rock. The lack of a global magnetic
field suggests it lacks a molten core.

Oh brother ! ,you are not doing too well are you.

Ex-****ing-scuse me?

[snip the twit nattering on about low-viscosity lava -- I'll believe
that one when I see it]

--
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks

On Aug 8, 9:01*pm, kensi wrote:
On 08/08/2012 2:54 PM, oriel36 wrote:

On Aug 8, 8:15 pm, kensi wrote:
On 07/08/2012 4:54 PM, oriel36 wrote:

That is just one of many things and it
would be nice to encounter an individual who can handle the
observation that planets are organized as liquid nearer the Sun and
gas at greater distances if you are so intent in imaging an
astronomical without a surface.

Mars appears to be a solid ball of rock. The lack of a global magnetic
field suggests it lacks a molten core.

Oh brother ! ,you are not doing too well are you.

Ex-****ing-scuse me?

[snip the twit nattering on about low-viscosity lava -- I'll believe
that one when I see it]


It's called Olympus Mons,it is not just a mountain but a volcano and
volcano's don't exist on a ball of rock.

You are fine,the empiricist simply fires out assertion after assertion
on any given topic,just had one on precession and now this one on the
geology of Mars,but all these assertions are disjointed and
disconnected and merely playing to the crowd with overheard words.

A volcano on Mars without plate tectonics can tell you a great deal
about a rotating fluid interior which in turn shoots off in multiple
different directions.


--
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks

On 08/08/2012 3:31 PM, oriel36 wrote:
On Aug 8, 9:01 pm, kensi wrote:
On 08/08/2012 2:54 PM, oriel36 wrote:
On Aug 8, 8:15 pm, kensi wrote:
Mars appears to be a solid ball of rock. The lack of a global magnetic
field suggests it lacks a molten core.

Oh brother ! ,you are not doing too well are you.

Ex-****ing-scuse me?

It's called Olympus Mons,it is not just a mountain but a volcano and
volcano's don't exist on a ball of rock.

It's an *extinct* volcano!

And even the presence of some magma pockets near the surface, for which
there is little evidence, would not change the fact that the planet has
largely solidified.

--
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks

On Aug 9, 9:49*am, kensi wrote:
On 08/08/2012 3:31 PM, oriel36 wrote:

On Aug 8, 9:01 pm, kensi wrote:
On 08/08/2012 2:54 PM, oriel36 wrote:
On Aug 8, 8:15 pm, kensi wrote:
Mars appears to be a solid ball of rock. The lack of a global magnetic
field suggests it lacks a molten core.

Oh brother ! ,you are not doing too well are you.

Ex-****ing-scuse me?

It's called Olympus Mons,it is not just a mountain but a volcano and
volcano's don't exist on a ball of rock.

It's an *extinct* volcano!

And even the presence of some magma pockets near the surface, for which
there is little evidence, would not change the fact that the planet has
largely solidified.


A planet with a spherical deviation between equatorial and polar
diameters indicates a rotating viscous interior as the uneven
rotational gradient of different rotation moving in horizontal bands
from equatorial to polar latitudes generates that 'uneven' shape.I am
not about to process a huge topic like this on an open forum as the
spherical deviation of the Earth and its crustal evolution and motion
are tied together using the common mechanism of differential rotation.

As for you,well..........





--
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks

On Aug 6, 11:02*am, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 8/6/12 12:34 AM, Sam Wormley wrote:

Curiosity has landed and is alive!

Curiosity lands on Mars
Most challenging robotic mission ever attempted is a success so far.http://arstechnica.com/science/2012/...lands-on-mars/









Some events in the control room timeline as they arrived (14 minutes after they actually took place on Mars):

10:14 Lost telemetry, received heartbeat signals
10:15 Cruise stage separation, vehicle turns to the correct attitude, which means that the reaction control system rockets are working
10:20 5 minutes to entry, heartbeat tones still coming, spacecraft at about 5.5 km/sec
10:22 MRO began storing data for retransmission
10:24 Reentry began, signal dropped, indicating a change in antennas
10:26 Odyssey data begins flooding in, MSL deccelerating at about 11 G's
10:28 17 kilometers altitude
10:29 Down to about Mach 2, parachute will deploy at Mach 1.7
10:30 Parachute deployed!!! Spacecraft decelerating well!
10:30 Still descending, at 6.9 kilometers
10:31 86 meters/second, 4.2 kilometers and descending
10:31 Powered flight!!! yes!!! down to 500 meters altitude, 50 m/sec
10:32 10m/sec, 40 m altitude
10:32 1.5m/sec descending, skycrane is working!!!
10:32 Touchdown confirmed!!!! The skycrane worked!!!! Joy in control room. Everyone's faces are red.
10:34 First thumbnail of Curiosity's wheel rolls in, cameras working
10:35 Full-sized picture with Curiosity's wheel, Martian horizon arrives to sheer joy in the control room

Touchdown time was 10:14:39pm Pacific Time, 0.04435, 140.46kg of fuel remaining (out of 400kg to start) in descent stage as it flew away.

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-Sam Wormley

I have great pictures of Mars and its two Moons taken by Viking 45
years ago. I'm hoping we get new stuff,and not the same old dust rock
and craters. We need to drill down 250 feet inside a deep crater.We
need to have a rover to make a return trip,and bring back rocks. It
did cost 2.5 billion,and for that kind of money a round trip. TreBert

On Aug 9, 3:49*am, kensi wrote:
On 08/08/2012 3:31 PM, oriel36 wrote:

On Aug 8, 9:01 pm, kensi wrote:
On 08/08/2012 2:54 PM, oriel36 wrote:
On Aug 8, 8:15 pm, kensi wrote:
Mars appears to be a solid ball of rock. The lack of a global magnetic
field suggests it lacks a molten core.

Oh brother ! ,you are not doing too well are you.

Ex-****ing-scuse me?

It's called Olympus Mons,it is not just a mountain but a volcano and
volcano's don't exist on a ball of rock.

It's an *extinct* volcano!

And even the presence of some magma pockets near the surface, for which
there is little evidence, would not change the fact that the planet has
largely solidified.

--
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks

Water on Mars NEVER Good reason why this is so. TeBet