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August 4th 12, 06:35 PM
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You could have built 60 Curiosity rovers for the cost of the ISS
You could have paid for 187 new Shuttle missles. Or perhaps 10 ice-
drilling missions to Jupiter and Saturn's moons. 
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August 5th 12, 10:37 PM
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You could have built 60 Curiosity rovers for the cost of the ISS
On Aug 4, 10:35*am, RichA wrote:
You could have paid for 187 new Shuttle missles. *Or perhaps 10 ice- drilling missions to Jupiter and Saturn's moons. Or the same accomplished for less than 10% of what the all-inclusive 9/11 fiasco has cost us, and there'd be loot to spare for accomplishing Venus. “Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...79402364691314 Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel) http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif BTW; there's still no American flags on Venus, but there are USSR/ Russian flags on landers that got there decades before us. So, perhaps we have to accept that Venus and all of its natural resources belongs to Russia. http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”
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August 6th 12, 04:08 AM
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You could have built 60 Curiosity rovers for the cost of the ISS
Brad Guth wrote in
: On Aug 4, 10:35*am, RichA wrote: You could have paid for 187 new Shuttle missles. *Or perhaps 10 ice- drilling missions to Jupiter and Saturn's moons. Or the same accomplished for less than 10% of what the all-inclusive 9/11 fiasco has cost us, and there'd be loot to spare for accomplishing Venus. Nutcase.
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August 6th 12, 05:12 AM
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You could have built 60 Curiosity rovers for the cost of the ISS
On Aug 5, 8:08*pm, Rich wrote:
Brad Guth wrote : On Aug 4, 10:35*am, RichA wrote: You could have paid for 187 new Shuttle missles. *Or perhaps 10 ice- drilling missions to Jupiter and Saturn's moons. Or the same accomplished for less than 10% of what the all-inclusive 9/11 fiasco has cost us, and there'd be loot to spare for accomplishing Venus. Nutcase. Are you suggesting the self inflected Karma of the 9/11 fiasco and its wars were cheap because human life isn't worth anything?
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August 6th 12, 03:20 PM
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You could have built 60 Curiosity rovers for the cost of theISS
On 8/5/2012 5:37 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
On Aug 4, 10:35 am, RichA wrote: You could have paid for 187 new Shuttle missles. Or perhaps 10 ice- drilling missions to Jupiter and Saturn's moons. Or the same accomplished for less than 10% of what the all-inclusive 9/11 fiasco has cost us, and there'd be loot to spare for accomplishing Venus. “Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...79402364691314 Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel) http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif BTW; there's still no American flags on Venus, but there are USSR/ Russian flags on landers that got there decades before us. So, perhaps we have to accept that Venus and all of its natural resources belongs to Russia. http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” Using that logic the Moon and all it's natural resources belongs to the USA and the USA alone. And there are US flags on Mars, so Mars and all it's resources also belong to the USA. You Ok with that ?
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August 6th 12, 04:10 PM
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You could have built 60 Curiosity rovers for the cost of the ISS
"AM" wrote in message ... On 8/5/2012 5:37 PM, Brad Guth wrote: On Aug 4, 10:35 am, RichA wrote: You could have paid for 187 new Shuttle missles. Or perhaps 10 ice- drilling missions to Jupiter and Saturn's moons. Or the same accomplished for less than 10% of what the all-inclusive 9/11 fiasco has cost us, and there'd be loot to spare for accomplishing Venus. “Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...79402364691314 Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel) http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif BTW; there's still no American flags on Venus, but there are USSR/ Russian flags on landers that got there decades before us. So, perhaps we have to accept that Venus and all of its natural resources belongs to Russia. http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” Using that logic the Moon and all it's natural resources belongs to the USA and the USA alone. And there are US flags on Mars, so Mars and all it's resources also belong to the USA. You Ok with that ? ====================================== Yep, if you are ok with the British flag being on Antarctica so all it's natural resources belong to Britain and Britain alone. We've already set up the atmosphere and water supply so we are well on the way to terraforming it. We've owned Antarctica since 1773. You may have some slight difficulty with air on Mars and the Moon.
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#7
August 6th 12, 04:25 PM
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You could have built 60 Curiosity rovers for the cost of the ISS
On Aug 6, 7:20*am, AM wrote:
On 8/5/2012 5:37 PM, Brad Guth wrote: On Aug 4, 10:35 am, RichA wrote: You could have paid for 187 new Shuttle missles. *Or perhaps 10 ice- drilling missions to Jupiter and Saturn's moons. Or the same accomplished for less than 10% of what the all-inclusive 9/11 fiasco has cost us, and there'd be loot to spare for accomplishing Venus. Guth Venus 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow... * Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel) *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html * Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1 *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html *http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif BTW; *there's still no American flags on Venus, but there are USSR/ Russian flags on landers that got there decades before us. *So, perhaps we have to accept that Venus and all of its natural resources belongs to Russia. *http://groups.google.com/groups/search *http://translate.google.com/# * Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/ Guth Venus Using that logic the Moon and all it's natural resources belongs to the USA and the USA alone. And there are US flags on Mars, so Mars and all it's resources also belong to the USA. You Ok with that ? Sure thing, although Russia does have at least some claim to our moon, and of what we've sent to Mars is perhaps worth more than Mars itself. However, Venus may already have ETs or possibly even indigenous forms of intelligent life to consider. Have another look at what seems unusually artificial about the terrain of Venus. “Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...79402364691314 Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel) http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”
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#8
August 6th 12, 05:05 PM
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You could have built 60 Curiosity rovers for the cost of the ISS
"Brad Guth" wrote in message ... On Aug 6, 7:20 am, AM wrote: On 8/5/2012 5:37 PM, Brad Guth wrote: On Aug 4, 10:35 am, RichA wrote: You could have paid for 187 new Shuttle missles. Or perhaps 10 ice- drilling missions to Jupiter and Saturn's moons. Or the same accomplished for less than 10% of what the all-inclusive 9/11 fiasco has cost us, and there'd be loot to spare for accomplishing Venus. Guth Venus 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow... Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel) http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif BTW; there's still no American flags on Venus, but there are USSR/ Russian flags on landers that got there decades before us. So, perhaps we have to accept that Venus and all of its natural resources belongs to Russia. http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/ Guth Venus Using that logic the Moon and all it's natural resources belongs to the USA and the USA alone. And there are US flags on Mars, so Mars and all it's resources also belong to the USA. You Ok with that ? Sure thing, although Russia does have at least some claim to our moon, and of what we've sent to Mars is perhaps worth more than Mars itself. However, Venus may already have ETs or possibly even indigenous forms of intelligent life to consider. Have another look at what seems unusually artificial about the terrain of Venus. naw, I'll pass still into shrooms eh goofy?
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#9
August 7th 12, 05:22 AM
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You could have built 60 Curiosity rovers for the cost of the ISS
On Aug 6, 9:05*am, "David Staup" wrote:
"Brad Guth" wrote in message ... On Aug 6, 7:20 am, AM wrote: On 8/5/2012 5:37 PM, Brad Guth wrote: On Aug 4, 10:35 am, RichA wrote: You could have paid for 187 new Shuttle missles. Or perhaps 10 ice- drilling missions to Jupiter and Saturn's moons. Or the same accomplished for less than 10% of what the all-inclusive 9/11 fiasco has cost us, and there'd be loot to spare for accomplishing Venus. Guth Venus 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow.... Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel) http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif BTW; there's still no American flags on Venus, but there are USSR/ Russian flags on landers that got there decades before us. So, perhaps we have to accept that Venus and all of its natural resources belongs to Russia. http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/ Guth Venus Using that logic the Moon and all it's natural resources belongs to the USA and the USA alone. And there are US flags on Mars, so Mars and all it's resources also belong to the USA. You Ok with that ? Sure thing, although Russia does have at least some claim to our moon, and of what we've sent to Mars is perhaps worth more than Mars itself. *However, Venus may already have ETs or possibly even indigenous forms of intelligent life to consider. Have another look at what seems unusually artificial about the terrain of Venus. naw, I'll pass still into shrooms eh goofy? Still into FUD eh Staup? “Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question: https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...79402364691314 Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel) http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1 http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif BTW; there's still no American flags on Venus, but there are USSR/ Russian flags on landers that got there decades before us. So, perhaps we have to accept that Venus and all of its natural resources belongs to Russia. http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”
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#10
August 7th 12, 10:36 AM
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You could have built 60 Curiosity rovers for the cost of the ISS
On Aug 4, 1:35*pm, RichA wrote:
You could have paid for 187 new Shuttle missles. *Or perhaps 10 ice- drilling missions to Jupiter and Saturn's moons. For the cost of the Cars-for-Clunkers we could have sent a second Curiosity-class rover. For the cost of the Porkulus bill we could have sent hundreds of rovers, and for the eventual cost of 0bamacare....thousands.
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