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Old January 24th 17, 06:09 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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40 Years Ago To The Day, ‘Doctor Who’ Predicted ‘Alternative Facts’

In “The Face of Evil: Part Four,” which premiered on Jan. 22, 1977, the Doctor tells his future companion Leela:

"You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit their views."

Is the pursuit of science dead in this new era of alternate facts? You be the judge.

Razzy
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Old January 24th 17, 07:02 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 10:09:06 -0800 (PST), Razzmatazz
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Is the pursuit of science dead in this new era of alternate facts? You be the judge.


Certainly not. But the rate that we acquire knowledge will certainly
slow down as we go through a period of reduced public funding.
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Old January 24th 17, 07:23 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Alternative fact 1 -
” It is a fact not generally known that,owing to the difference between solar and sidereal time,the Earth rotates upon its axis once more often than there are days in the year” NASA /Harvard

Alternative fact 2 -
“At the time of the dinosaurs, Earth completed one rotation in about 23 hours,” says MacMillan, who is a member of the VLBI team at NASA Goddard. “In the year 1820, a rotation took exactly 24 hours, or 86,400 standard seconds. Since 1820, the mean solar day has increased by about 2.5 milliseconds.” NASA

All the dunces promoted alternative fact 1 whereas alternative fact 2 has made a recent appearance but is equally absurd. Orwell borrowed on Nazi ideology when he wrote his dystopian novel hence the events which happened to astronomy a number of centuries ago run parallel with National Socialism in how the past is flexible to suit an end -

“…this word has two mutually contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it means the habit of impudently claiming that black is white, in contradiction of the plain facts. Applied to a Party member, it means a loyal willingness to say that black is white when Party discipline demands this. But it means also the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary. This demands a continuous alteration of the past, made possible by the system of thought which really embraces all the rest” Orwell



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Old January 24th 17, 09:33 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 1:23:13 PM UTC-6, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
Alternative fact 1 -
” It is a fact not generally known that,owing to the difference between solar and sidereal time,the Earth rotates upon its axis once more often than there are days in the year” NASA /Harvard

Alternative fact 2 -
“At the time of the dinosaurs, Earth completed one rotation in about 23 hours,” says MacMillan, who is a member of the VLBI team at NASA Goddard. “In the year 1820, a rotation took exactly 24 hours, or 86,400 standard seconds. Since 1820, the mean solar day has increased by about 2.5 milliseconds.” NASA

All the dunces promoted alternative fact 1 whereas alternative fact 2 has made a recent appearance but is equally absurd. Orwell borrowed on Nazi ideology when he wrote his dystopian novel hence the events which happened to astronomy a number of centuries ago run parallel with National Socialism in how the past is flexible to suit an end -

“…this word has two mutually contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it means the habit of impudently claiming that black is white, in contradiction of the plain facts. Applied to a Party member, it means a loyal willingness to say that black is white when Party discipline demands this. But it means also the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary. This demands a continuous alteration of the past, made possible by the system of thought which really embraces all the rest” Orwell


I've met a man who thought he was the biblical King David. The fact that "he believed it for a long time" doesn't make it so. Indeed, he should take a cue from the Buddhist nun Chodron who advises, "Don't believe everything you think." That is especially true for someone who gives evidence of being barking mad
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Old January 24th 17, 09:54 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 9:33:59 PM UTC, Razzmatazz wrote:
On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 1:23:13 PM UTC-6, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
Alternative fact 1 -
” It is a fact not generally known that,owing to the difference between solar and sidereal time,the Earth rotates upon its axis once more often than there are days in the year” NASA /Harvard

Alternative fact 2 -
“At the time of the dinosaurs, Earth completed one rotation in about 23 hours,” says MacMillan, who is a member of the VLBI team at NASA Goddard. “In the year 1820, a rotation took exactly 24 hours, or 86,400 standard seconds. Since 1820, the mean solar day has increased by about 2.5 milliseconds.” NASA

All the dunces promoted alternative fact 1 whereas alternative fact 2 has made a recent appearance but is equally absurd. Orwell borrowed on Nazi ideology when he wrote his dystopian novel hence the events which happened to astronomy a number of centuries ago run parallel with National Socialism in how the past is flexible to suit an end -

“…this word has two mutually contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it means the habit of impudently claiming that black is white, in contradiction of the plain facts. Applied to a Party member, it means a loyal willingness to say that black is white when Party discipline demands this. But it means also the ability to believe that black is white, and more, to know that black is white, and to forget that one has ever believed the contrary. This demands a continuous alteration of the past, made possible by the system of thought which really embraces all the rest” Orwell


I've met a man who thought he was the biblical King David. The fact that "he believed it for a long time" doesn't make it so. Indeed, he should take a cue from the Buddhist nun Chodron who advises, "Don't believe everything you think." That is especially true for someone who gives evidence of being barking mad


The term 'genius' is so devalued as to be absolutely meaningless, at least in present astronomical affairs, so it is more fitting to be a spiritual/inspirational person nowadays where the spiritual informs the physical and indeed it has always been that way.

Contemporary imaging lights up the spiritual personality so it is not hankering back to the icons of another era but something that exists at present if observers can detach themselves from magnification and a rotating RA/Dec framework.

So ,in the space of 20 years they went from insisting the alternative fact 1 where the Earth rotates once in 23 hours 56 minutes 04 seconds to alternative fact 2 where the Earth rotates once in exactly 24 hours but only in the year 1820.

The actual fact is that the terms 'average' and 'constant' are conveniently interchangeable within the confines of the 24 hour system and the Lat/Long system and this framework sits inside the calendar format.

It doesn't matter anyway, you have found your own level in the forum which amounts to a torturous mediocrity that is mindnumbing to witness.








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Old January 25th 17, 04:07 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, 24 January 2017 14:02:16 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 10:09:06 -0800 (PST), Razzmatazz
wrote:

Is the pursuit of science dead in this new era of alternate facts? You be the judge.


Certainly not. But the rate that we acquire knowledge will certainly
slow down as we go through a period of reduced public funding.


Well, if the whole "robust economy" hadn't been a complete FRAUD which ran up the debt to DOUBLE its size in eight years, maybe some cuts could have been avoided?
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Old January 25th 17, 04:57 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 20:07:09 -0800 (PST), RichA
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On Tuesday, 24 January 2017 14:02:16 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 10:09:06 -0800 (PST), Razzmatazz
wrote:

Is the pursuit of science dead in this new era of alternate facts? You be the judge.


Certainly not. But the rate that we acquire knowledge will certainly
slow down as we go through a period of reduced public funding.


Well, if the whole "robust economy" hadn't been a complete FRAUD which ran up the debt to DOUBLE its size in eight years, maybe some cuts could have been avoided?


Yet another of the uninformed.
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Old January 26th 17, 03:44 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 12:09:08 PM UTC-6, Razzmatazz wrote:
40 Years Ago To The Day, ‘Doctor Who’ Predicted ‘Alternative Facts’

In “The Face of Evil: Part Four,” which premiered on Jan. 22, 1977, the Doctor tells his future companion Leela:

"You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit their views."

Is the pursuit of science dead in this new era of alternate facts? You be the judge.

Razzy


Understanding what caused the divide in America may hold the key to our future. If we don't fix this, we are in for a long period of decline.

"Researchers have long been confused by what seems like a paradox: many people in America vote against their economic self-interests. Whether it's the working class conservative who wants a tax cut for the wealthy, or a member of the liberal elite who fights for safety nets that raise his own taxes — we don't always act in the way that would help us the most.

In her new book, Strangers in Their Own Land, sociologist Arlie Hochschild tackles this paradox. She says that while people might vote against their economic needs, they're actually voting to serve their emotional needs.

Hochschild says that both conservative and liberals have "deep stories" — about who they are, and what their values are. Deep stories don't need to be completely accurate, but they have to feel true. They're the stories we tell ourselves to capture our hopes, pride, disappointments, fears, and anxieties.

Hochschild spent years in Louisiana trying to understand the deep stories of conservative, white, heterosexual, working-class Americans. Their deep story focused on the American Dream: the idea that, if you work hard and play by the rules, you can have a better life. But what happens when that dream doesn't come true? When people see "line cutters" getting ahead while their own lives don't seem to be going anywhere?"

From NPR article "Hidden Brain A conversation about life's unseen patterns"
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On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 1:09:08 PM UTC-5, Razzmatazz wrote:
40 Years Ago To The Day, ‘Doctor Who’ Predicted ‘Alternative Facts’

In “The Face of Evil: Part Four,” which premiered on Jan. 22, 1977, the Doctor tells his future companion Leela:

"You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don’t alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit their views."

Is the pursuit of science dead in this new era of alternate facts? You be the judge.

Razzy


Do you mean "alternate facts" such as "20-foot sea level rise by 2100" or "Landing under sniper fire?"

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Old January 26th 17, 02:08 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Thursday, 26 January 2017 04:44:34 UTC+1, Razzmatazz wrote:

From NPR article "Hidden Brain A conversation about life's unseen patterns"


Blatant inequality drives social discord.
Jealousy drives social discord.
Unfounded rumour drives social discord.
Non-contributory queue jumping drives social discord.
Blatant injustice drives social discord.

Anyone who thinks the politicooze have any answers is deluded.
Denmark politics moved heavily to the right to end open immigration.
Immigration did not reduce but they certainly got the crooks they voted for.
None of the other empty promises were ever fulfilled.

Environmental standards, which took decades to achieve top spot, were simply dumped overnight.
The cities are full of empty properties with constantly inflated values. Guaranteeing a tax-free return for international criminals laundering their drug money and investment funds laundering their offshore customer's funds.
The public housing ghettos are run by violent, armed, criminal, immigrant gangs which rule by terror.

Meanwhile university students are to be accommodated in shipping container, shanty towns on green field sites.
The health service queues grow ever longer and the streets are never cleaned.
There are no funds available while ISIS fighters are still receiving Danish social security payments to fight Danish troops in asymmetric war zones.
Each new Danish prime Minister hopes for a top international job by going down on their knees to a crooked US president.

The only likely hope for the human race is a guaranteed basic income for all.
Regardless of their contribution to society and whether working or not.
End all welfare as robotics and AI sweep away all work for all social classes.
Tax the robots and tax production to pay for a vital societal foundation.

Anyone who thinks Trump has any answers [at all] should try Photoshopping a few extra tens of pounds onto a picture of Jimmy Savile.
I really can't tell them apart.


 




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