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Old September 15th 11, 06:00 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Anonymous Remailer (austria)
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http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1927/1

Look at the size of those mothers! Them things are bigger than Hubble
and these are the ones from the '60's and '70's. Just imagine the size
current ones!


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Old September 15th 11, 09:29 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default Old declassified U.S. spy sats are bigger than Hubble!!

On Sep 15, 10:00*am, "Anonymous Remailer (austria)"
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http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1927/1

Look at the size of those mothers! Them things are bigger than Hubble
and these are the ones from the '60's and '70's. Just imagine the size
current ones!


Those KH-9s could have been giving us 2 foot resolution of our moon
from the very get go.

The later KH-11 could have provided us with 15 mm digital resolution
of our physically dark moon as of before 1980.

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Old September 15th 11, 09:34 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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In article .at,
says...

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1927/1

Look at the size of those mothers! Them things are bigger than Hubble
and these are the ones from the '60's and '70's. Just imagine the size
current ones!


I thought Hubble was roughly the size of the KH-11.

Jeff
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Old September 15th 11, 11:56 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default Old declassified U.S. spy sats are bigger than Hubble!!

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:34:59 -0400, Jeff Findley
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http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1927/1

Look at the size of those mothers! Them things are bigger than Hubble
and these are the ones from the '60's and '70's. Just imagine the size
current ones!


I thought Hubble was roughly the size of the KH-11.


And the current ones can't be much bigger, because we've seen them
being launched and Titan IV's payload shroud isn't much bigger than
Shuttle's payload bay.

Brian
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Old September 16th 11, 06:03 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On 9/15/2011 12:34 PM, Jeff Findley wrote:

I thought Hubble was roughly the size of the KH-11.


Hubble was supposed to be about the same size as KH-11, as both were
originally designed to be about the max size that would fit inside the
Shuttle cargo bay for launch, with KH-11 and Hubble using a lot of the
same technology developed at the same time, with Hubble being sort of a
KH-11 redesigned for astronomical work, and KH-11 using Hubble R&D
funding to cut down on its development costs.
One modified KH-11 was apparently orbited by the Shuttle on the STS-36
mission in 1990:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-36

Pat

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Old September 17th 11, 07:23 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Sep 15, 10:03*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
On 9/15/2011 12:34 PM, Jeff Findley wrote:

I thought Hubble was roughly the size of the KH-11.


Hubble was supposed to be about the same size as KH-11, as both were
originally designed to be about the max size that would fit inside the
Shuttle cargo bay for launch, with KH-11 and Hubble using a lot of the
same technology developed at the same time, with Hubble being sort of a
KH-11 redesigned for astronomical work, and KH-11 using Hubble R&D
funding to cut down on its development costs.
One modified KH-11 was apparently orbited by the Shuttle on the STS-36
mission in 1990:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-36

Pat


Actually, there was quite a bit more room available than just what
would fit Hubble. That extra room means that a spy satellite, like
KH-11, could have a good-sized propulsion module attached to it for
orbital maneuvering. I suspect the Bus-1 series of propulsion modules
that were suggested for the SSF redesigns in the early 1990's is
exactly that.
-Mike
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Old September 18th 11, 01:43 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default Old declassified U.S. spy sats are bigger than Hubble!!

On 9/17/2011 10:23 AM, Mike DiCenso wrote:

Actually, there was quite a bit more room available than just what
would fit Hubble. That extra room means that a spy satellite, like
KH-11, could have a good-sized propulsion module attached to it for
orbital maneuvering. I suspect the Bus-1 series of propulsion modules
that were suggested for the SSF redesigns in the early 1990's is
exactly that.


The KH-9 “Big Bird” was put on display, with photographing it being
okay; photos and video of it he
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1568
....lots of gold plating and foil around the film reentry capsules.
KH-8 Gambit will be revealed tonight indoors.
KH-9 indeed does indeed have a propulsion module attached to it, with a
fairly low thrust rocket engine on it.

Pat

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Old September 18th 11, 02:59 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On 16/09/2011 3:00 AM, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:

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Old September 18th 11, 09:55 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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On 9/17/2011 4:43 PM, Pat Flannery wrote:

The KH-9 “Big Bird” was put on display, with photographing it being
okay; photos and video of it he
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1568
...lots of gold plating and foil around the film reentry capsules.
KH-8 Gambit will be revealed tonight indoors.
KH-9 indeed does indeed have a propulsion module attached to it, with a
fairly low thrust rocket engine on it.


NRO has now put a whole pile of KH-8/9 info up on their website:
http://www.nro.gov/foia/declass/GAMBHEX.html

Pat
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Old September 19th 11, 12:39 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Mike DiCenso
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On Sep 18, 1:55*am, Pat Flannery wrote:
On 9/17/2011 4:43 PM, Pat Flannery wrote:

The KH-9 “Big Bird” was put on display, with photographing it being
okay; photos and video of it he
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1568
...lots of gold plating and foil around the film reentry capsules.
KH-8 Gambit will be revealed tonight indoors.
KH-9 indeed does indeed have a propulsion module attached to it, with a
fairly low thrust rocket engine on it.


NRO has now put a whole pile of KH-8/9 info up on their website:http://www.nro.gov/foia/declass/GAMBHEX.html



You can definitely there is a great transition there from the Corona
series to the later "Hubble" like KH-11s. Also evident is the Manned
Orbiting Laboratory (MOL) heritage in the construction of the KH-9
HEXAGONs,
-Mike
 




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