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Old June 26th 09, 02:07 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Howard Lester[_1_]
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http://www.seattlepi.com/fun/mutts.asp

today's strip, June 26 :-)


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Old June 26th 09, 04:12 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On 26 June, 14:07, "Howard Lester" wrote:
http://www.seattlepi.com/fun/mutts.asp

today's strip, June 26 * *:-)


Today's news -

"The so-called cap-and-trade measure would create a market for trading
pollution permits as a way to curb the emissions that many scientists
say contribute to climate change. It calls for the U.S. to reduce its
greenhouse- gas emissions by 17 percent from 2005 levels by 2020. "

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aBS28ILXvszg

"Reporting from Washington -- House Democrats grew increasingly
confident Thursday that they have the votes to deliver on one of
President Obama's highest priorities -- a landmark effort to fight
global warming and boost alternatives to fossil fuels. "

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...0,864796.story

How a small group managed to convince the entire planet that carbon
dioxide levels act as some sort of magic global temperature dial to
the exclusion of every other input and influence social policy to this
frightening level is quite something to behold,even allowing for the
politics of pollution and the shift towards energy generation by means
other than oil/gas ,the science is so spurious and blinkered that the
mass indoctrination is many times greater than any 'climate change'.It
was for this reason Orwell said he feared the Nazi more than he feared
the bombs -

"Nazi theory indeed specifically denies that such a thing as "the
truth" exists. […] The implied objective of this line of thought is a
nightmare world in which the Leader, or some ruling clique, controls
not only the future but the past. If the Leader says of such and such
an event, "It never happened"—well, it never happened. If he says that
two and two are five—well, two and two are five. This prospect
frightens me much more than bombs […]" Orwell

The ability to manufacture observations to suit conclusions or
frighten people with speculative modelling as opposed to those who
interpret observations and arrange these observations to come to the
best possible conclusion constitutes a genuine battleground.At the
moment,the most powerful argument against the reckless conclusion
which is making the news today is that the astronomical seasons and
planetary dynamics which determine global climate are not understood.





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Old June 26th 09, 04:30 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"Howard Lester" wrote:

http://www.seattlepi.com/fun/mutts.asp

today's strip, June 26 :-)


Excellent. Thanks! 8^)
--
Dave
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Old June 26th 09, 06:54 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Jun 26, 10:12*am, oriel36 wrote:

How a small group managed to convince the entire planet that carbon
dioxide levels act as some sort of *magic global temperature dial


It's not magic. It's basic chemistry. Probably you flunked chem101
back in school?

Rollie
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Old June 26th 09, 07:55 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Jun 26, 6:54*pm, uncarollo wrote:
On Jun 26, 10:12*am, oriel36 wrote:

How a small group managed to convince the entire planet that carbon
dioxide levels act as some sort of *magic global temperature dial


It's not magic. It's basic chemistry. Probably you flunked chem101
back in school?

Rollie


The reason for this mess is that there is no astronomical authority to
weigh in with the arguments based on solar and planetary dynamical
inputs -

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...ay_in_rej.html

The difference between the astronomical seasons which govern global
climate through planetary dynamics and other astronomical inputs as
distinct from hemispherical meteoroligical weather patterns which
people here call the 'seasons' is the point of departure for
distinguishing weather from climate.I would not expect somebody like
yourself to know the difference insofar as this type of astronomy
based on planetary dynamics and its terrestrial effects is not for
everyone.

If somebody asks you what causes the seasons,explain to them that the
day and night cycle is due to daily rotation while the seasonal cycle
is due to the orbital motion,pass the information on to NOAA if you
must as they give 'axial tilt' a magic seasonal causing property just
as they give carbon dioxide a magic property of governing temperature
levels -

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/fsd/astro/season.php

In case you missed it,scientists can't even properly explain the
temperature fluctuation over the course of a year,again,I wouldn't
expect you to grasp this.







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Old June 26th 09, 09:27 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Jun 26, 12:55*pm, oriel36 wrote:

The reason for this mess is that there is no astronomical authority


An authority can be wrong. It may be that scientists will come up with
different notions that contradict each other, but ultimately, the
truth will out - and we can be sure it is the truth, because it is
decided by no authority but Nature itself.

John Savard
 




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