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Old April 7th 09, 11:45 PM posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy
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"Mark McIntyre" wrote in message
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On 07/04/09 23:11, Mark Earnest wrote:

It isn't "matter" that coalesced, it is gas, and gas does not coalesce
without some kind of help.


Gas /is/ matter, and Martin already explained the "help" it was getting.



Gas is not matter the way he was using it.
He was using the word as some strange, eerie unexplainable phenomenon,
which dare not be questioned.



If you don't know about the supernatural, then you don't know
why under the correct conditions, corn turns inside out to form popcorn.


Amusing. But at least now we know you're either a blatant troll, or a
lunatic.


Oh no, the great gods of science have once again been offended.
Beat it, religious fanatic.


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Old April 8th 09, 12:46 AM posted to sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy
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On 07/04/09 09:16, Mark Earnest wrote:

No, YOU tell me how gas anti dissipated into the Solar System.


It didn't "anti-dissipate".


It came together, right?
Then it must have dissipated in reverse, in other words.



Don't rely on some cryptic nonsense as some kind of "explanation."


Whats your "explanation"? Please don't rely on some cryptic nonsense such
as "a divine being did it".


That is not cryptic.



Incidentally does our atmosphere dissipate, or does some
"anti-dissipation" force keep it swirling round the earth?


Earth has enough heavy elements to hold down the atmosphere.
Deep space does not.

How about the
moon?



The Moon simply does not have sufficient gravity.
But you already knew that.

Even scientists aren't completely wrong.


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Old April 8th 09, 12:48 AM posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy
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"BradGuth" wrote in message
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On Apr 7, 12:00 am, "Mark Earnest" wrote:
"BURT" wrote in message

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How do accretion discs form in a flat plane around a star?


How does the gravitational order bring matter together in the solar
plane. How then does this matter proceed to become planets?


There were trillions of lumps of matter. How did they come together
for the order of the solar system we now see?


Nobody can do it. And never will.


Mitch Raemsch


Gas does not come together.
It dissipates.
There is no way the solar system could have formed,
except by supernatural accomplishment.


There's always good old gravity, the electrostatic force and the
magnetic force of attraction, in addition to just the natural process
of recombining and subsequent crystal growth of matter (aka black
diamond).


***How much gravity is one atom every few hundred feet going to give off?


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Old April 8th 09, 01:46 AM posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy
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On Apr 7, 1:46*pm, BURT wrote:
On Apr 7, 11:59*am, BradGuth wrote:



On Apr 7, 12:00*am, "Mark Earnest" wrote:


"BURT" wrote in message


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How do accretion discs form in a flat plane around a star?


How does the gravitational order bring matter together in the solar
plane. How then does this matter proceed to become planets?


There were trillions of lumps of matter. How did they come together
for the order of the solar system we now see?


Nobody can do it. And never will.


Mitch Raemsch


Gas does not come together.
It dissipates.
There is no way the solar system could have formed,
except by supernatural accomplishment.


There's always good old gravity, the electrostatic force and the
magnetic force of attraction, in addition to just the natural process
of recombining and subsequent crystal growth of matter (aka black
diamond).


*~ BG- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


How does all the matter end up in an accretion disc or the solar
plane?

Mitch Raemsch


Ever heard of a God fart?

How the hell should I know how accretion discs form?

How many trillions upon trillions of tax free loot are you going to
pay me if I objectively figure it out?

~ BG
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Old April 8th 09, 01:47 AM posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy
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On Apr 7, 2:16*pm, (Richard Tobin) wrote:
In article ,

BURT wrote:
How does all the matter end up in an accretion disc or the solar
plane?


By now, it's clear that "BURT" or "Mitch" never learns anything. *He's
either a troll or a moron. *Don't waste your time explaining things to
him over and over again.

-- Richard
--
Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind.


Spoken like a devout Zionist Nazi. No wonder Eden is so screwed up.

~ BG
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Old April 8th 09, 01:48 AM posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy
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On Apr 7, 2:28*pm, BURT wrote:
On Apr 7, 1:16*pm, (Richard Tobin) wrote:

In article ,


BURT wrote:
How does all the matter end up in an accretion disc or the solar
plane?


By now, it's clear that "BURT" or "Mitch" never learns anything. *He's
either a troll or a moron. *Don't waste your time explaining things to
him over and over again.


-- Richard
--
Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind.


You sir are a baffoon.


A Zionist Nazi baffoon at that.

~ BG
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Old April 8th 09, 01:58 AM posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy
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On Apr 7, 4:48*pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

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On Apr 7, 12:00 am, "Mark Earnest" wrote:



"BURT" wrote in message


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How do accretion discs form in a flat plane around a star?


How does the gravitational order bring matter together in the solar
plane. How then does this matter proceed to become planets?


There were trillions of lumps of matter. How did they come together
for the order of the solar system we now see?


Nobody can do it. And never will.


Mitch Raemsch


Gas does not come together.
It dissipates.
There is no way the solar system could have formed,
except by supernatural accomplishment.


There's always good old gravity, the electrostatic force and the
magnetic force of attraction, in addition to just the natural process
of recombining and subsequent crystal growth of matter (aka black
diamond).

***How much gravity is one atom every few hundred feet going to give off?


Damn little, but perhaps there's an electrostatic charge of 1e12 Ev
to work with, and it helps if most of the available stuff is kind of
going along in the same orbital trek, so to speak, plus there's always
other new stuff passing through or merging.

A few billion years ago, Eden/Earth probably had 1e12 kg/year of rogue/
new stuff arriving.

You do realize that Sirius A is a fairly new star, and that Sirius B
could be something older than our sun.

~ BG
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Old April 8th 09, 03:18 AM posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy
Mark Earnest
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"BradGuth" wrote in message
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On Apr 7, 4:48 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

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On Apr 7, 12:00 am, "Mark Earnest" wrote:



"BURT" wrote in message


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How do accretion discs form in a flat plane around a star?


How does the gravitational order bring matter together in the solar
plane. How then does this matter proceed to become planets?


There were trillions of lumps of matter. How did they come together
for the order of the solar system we now see?


Nobody can do it. And never will.


Mitch Raemsch


Gas does not come together.
It dissipates.
There is no way the solar system could have formed,
except by supernatural accomplishment.


There's always good old gravity, the electrostatic force and the
magnetic force of attraction, in addition to just the natural process
of recombining and subsequent crystal growth of matter (aka black
diamond).

***How much gravity is one atom every few hundred feet going to give off?


Damn little, but perhaps there's an electrostatic charge of 1e12 Ev
to work with, and it helps if most of the available stuff is kind of
going along in the same orbital trek, so to speak, plus there's always
other new stuff passing through or merging.

**Surely any kind of charge an atom has will not make it have any
more gravity, considering the almost total emptiness of space.


A few billion years ago, Eden/Earth probably had 1e12 kg/year of rogue/
new stuff arriving.

***It all starts as hydrogen.


You do realize that Sirius A is a fairly new star, and that Sirius B
could be something older than our sun.

**Just because they are different intensities in heat?
**I once read that the probability of two stars converging in the
vastness of space was about that of two blind gnats colliding
in the Grand Canyon.


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Old April 8th 09, 04:00 AM posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy
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On Apr 7, 6:18*pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

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On Apr 7, 4:48 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:





"BradGuth" wrote in message


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On Apr 7, 12:00 am, "Mark Earnest" wrote:


"BURT" wrote in message


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How do accretion discs form in a flat plane around a star?


How does the gravitational order bring matter together in the solar
plane. How then does this matter proceed to become planets?


There were trillions of lumps of matter. How did they come together
for the order of the solar system we now see?


Nobody can do it. And never will.


Mitch Raemsch


Gas does not come together.
It dissipates.
There is no way the solar system could have formed,
except by supernatural accomplishment.


There's always good old gravity, the electrostatic force and the
magnetic force of attraction, in addition to just the natural process
of recombining and subsequent crystal growth of matter (aka black
diamond).


***How much gravity is one atom every few hundred feet going to give off?


Damn little, but perhaps there's an electrostatic charge of 1e12 Ev
to work with, and it helps if most of the available stuff is kind of
going along in the same orbital trek, so to speak, plus there's always
other new stuff passing through or merging.

**Surely any kind of charge an atom has will not make it have any
more gravity, considering the almost total emptiness of space.

A few billion years ago, Eden/Earth probably had 1e12 kg/year of rogue/
new stuff arriving.

***It all starts as hydrogen.

You do realize that Sirius A is a fairly new star, and that Sirius B
could be something older than our sun.

**Just because they are different intensities in heat?
**I once read that the probability of two stars converging in the
vastness of space was about that of two blind gnats colliding
in the Grand Canyon.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


How does heavy matter end up in a flat plane?
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Old April 8th 09, 04:55 AM posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy
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"BURT" wrote in message
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On Apr 7, 6:18 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

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On Apr 7, 4:48 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:





"BradGuth" wrote in message


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On Apr 7, 12:00 am, "Mark Earnest" wrote:


"BURT" wrote in message


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How do accretion discs form in a flat plane around a star?


How does the gravitational order bring matter together in the solar
plane. How then does this matter proceed to become planets?


There were trillions of lumps of matter. How did they come together
for the order of the solar system we now see?


Nobody can do it. And never will.


Mitch Raemsch


Gas does not come together.
It dissipates.
There is no way the solar system could have formed,
except by supernatural accomplishment.


There's always good old gravity, the electrostatic force and the
magnetic force of attraction, in addition to just the natural process
of recombining and subsequent crystal growth of matter (aka black
diamond).


***How much gravity is one atom every few hundred feet going to give
off?


Damn little, but perhaps there's an electrostatic charge of 1e12 Ev
to work with, and it helps if most of the available stuff is kind of
going along in the same orbital trek, so to speak, plus there's always
other new stuff passing through or merging.

**Surely any kind of charge an atom has will not make it have any
more gravity, considering the almost total emptiness of space.

A few billion years ago, Eden/Earth probably had 1e12 kg/year of rogue/
new stuff arriving.

***It all starts as hydrogen.

You do realize that Sirius A is a fairly new star, and that Sirius B
could be something older than our sun.

**Just because they are different intensities in heat?
**I once read that the probability of two stars converging in the
vastness of space was about that of two blind gnats colliding
in the Grand Canyon.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


How does heavy matter end up in a flat plane?

**The same way light matter ends up on a cubical one?


 




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