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Old December 29th 06, 10:34 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
Brian Gaff
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Without the Shuttle how could any large experiment or item be brought back
to earth?

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Old December 29th 06, 06:19 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle
Damon Hill[_2_]
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Default Getting large stuff back to earth intact.

"Brian Gaff" wrote in
. uk:

Without the Shuttle how could any large experiment or item be brought
back to earth?


Short answer, it can't. If it could be disassembled into
much smaller pieces, the most important parts might be
returnable in Soyuz or Orion--maybe.

Potentially an aeroshell could do the job, but it'd be
expensive and there's not much demand for such a service
at present. The capability wasn't used all that much with
Shuttle, other than SpaceHabs. If a demand develops, I
suppose a capability will be developed, if only as a
cargo-only version of Orion or something similar.

We're going to miss Shuttle's capabilities, on occasion.

--Damon
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Old December 29th 06, 10:23 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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"Damon Hill" wrote in message
31...
"Brian Gaff" wrote in
. uk:

Without the Shuttle how could any large experiment or item be brought
back to earth?


Short answer, it can't. If it could be disassembled into
much smaller pieces, the most important parts might be
returnable in Soyuz or Orion--maybe.

Potentially an aeroshell could do the job, but it'd be
expensive and there's not much demand for such a service
at present. The capability wasn't used all that much with
Shuttle, other than SpaceHabs. If a demand develops, I
suppose a capability will be developed, if only as a
cargo-only version of Orion or something similar.

We're going to miss Shuttle's capabilities, on occasion.

--Damon


No doubt about that.

George


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Old December 30th 06, 10:32 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
Jim[_8_]
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Default Getting large stuff back to earth intact.

Is the new RTV comming on board next year, capeible or such a task?
Jim
"George" wrote in message
.. .

"Damon Hill" wrote in message
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in
. uk:

Without the Shuttle how could any large experiment or item be brought
back to earth?


Short answer, it can't. If it could be disassembled into
much smaller pieces, the most important parts might be
returnable in Soyuz or Orion--maybe.

Potentially an aeroshell could do the job, but it'd be
expensive and there's not much demand for such a service
at present. The capability wasn't used all that much with
Shuttle, other than SpaceHabs. If a demand develops, I
suppose a capability will be developed, if only as a
cargo-only version of Orion or something similar.

We're going to miss Shuttle's capabilities, on occasion.

--Damon


No doubt about that.

George



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Old December 30th 06, 10:53 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
George[_1_]
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"Jim" wrote in message
et...
Is the new RTV comming on board next year, capeible or such a task?
Jim


Would that be the Amadas Coach, or the feathelight Prevost:

http://www.rvonline.com/motorhomes-5...d=1&SortedBy=4

lol

George

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"Damon Hill" wrote in message
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in
. uk:

Without the Shuttle how could any large experiment or item be brought
back to earth?

Short answer, it can't. If it could be disassembled into
much smaller pieces, the most important parts might be
returnable in Soyuz or Orion--maybe.

Potentially an aeroshell could do the job, but it'd be
expensive and there's not much demand for such a service
at present. The capability wasn't used all that much with
Shuttle, other than SpaceHabs. If a demand develops, I
suppose a capability will be developed, if only as a
cargo-only version of Orion or something similar.

We're going to miss Shuttle's capabilities, on occasion.

--Damon


No doubt about that.

George





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Old December 31st 06, 08:42 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
Brian Gaff
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No RTV is made by Dow Corning, its an advanced series of adhesives and
fillers.

:-)

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"George" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote in message
et...
Is the new RTV comming on board next year, capeible or such a task?
Jim


Would that be the Amadas Coach, or the feathelight Prevost:

http://www.rvonline.com/motorhomes-5...d=1&SortedBy=4

lol

George

"George" wrote in message
.. .

"Damon Hill" wrote in message
31...
"Brian Gaff" wrote in
. uk:

Without the Shuttle how could any large experiment or item be brought
back to earth?

Short answer, it can't. If it could be disassembled into
much smaller pieces, the most important parts might be
returnable in Soyuz or Orion--maybe.

Potentially an aeroshell could do the job, but it'd be
expensive and there's not much demand for such a service
at present. The capability wasn't used all that much with
Shuttle, other than SpaceHabs. If a demand develops, I
suppose a capability will be developed, if only as a
cargo-only version of Orion or something similar.

We're going to miss Shuttle's capabilities, on occasion.

--Damon

No doubt about that.

George







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Old December 31st 06, 10:13 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
George[_1_]
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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No RTV is made by Dow Corning, its an advanced series of adhesives and
fillers.

:-)

Brian

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I know. I was making a joke.

George


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Old January 1st 07, 04:46 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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Default Getting large stuff back to earth intact.

Damon Hill wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in
. uk:


Without the Shuttle how could any large experiment or item be brought
back to earth?



Short answer, it can't. If it could be disassembled into
much smaller pieces, the most important parts might be
returnable in Soyuz or Orion--maybe.


It's probably cheaper to just return the items that need analyzing in a
lab on the ground, or just the data, and toss the rest into a lonely
ocean in a controlled manner. The expense of returning a large item
back for reuse probably costs the same or more than just building a new
replacement.
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Old January 1st 07, 10:44 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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Default Getting large stuff back to earth intact.

I feel silly now... I thought a "Reusable Transport Vehicle" aka RTV was
coming online later this year. Sorry about the faux pas. But isn't there
some kind of reusable vehicle coming online for later in the year?
Jim
"George" wrote in message
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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No RTV is made by Dow Corning, its an advanced series of adhesives and
fillers.

:-)

Brian

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I know. I was making a joke.

George



 




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