Aether has mass

On Nov 15, 9:18*am, mpc755 wrote:
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On Nov 12, 2:55 am, Painius wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:13:58 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 11, 6:13 pm, Painius wrote:

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

Yet, the aether cannot do that on its own. It must have help. There
must be a pressure exerted on the aether. What, in your opinion,
might be the source of that pressure?

Aether exists everywhere particles of matter do not.

On Nov 15, 1:07*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 15, 9:18*am, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 15, 12:04*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

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On Nov 14, 11:11*am, Painius wrote:

On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:21:10 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 12, 4:35 pm, Painius wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 04:11:06 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 12, 2:55 am, Painius wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:13:58 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 11, 6:13 pm, Painius wrote:

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

Yet, the aether cannot do that on its own. It must have help. There
must be a pressure exerted on the aether. What, in your opinion,
might be the source of that pressure?

Aether exists everywhere particles of matter do not.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

What, again in your opinion, causes the disappearance of the
interference pattern when a sensor is placed near a slit?

'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory -
Louis de BROGLIE'
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001..pdf

When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics I was
looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles,
of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in
his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the
physical reality of waves and particles.

any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous
energetic contact with a hidden medium

The hidden medium of de Broglie wave mechanics is the aether. The
energetic contact is the state of displacement of the aether.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.

In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined path
which takes it through one slit. The associated wave in the aether
passes through both. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates
wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction
it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave
piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Detecting the particle
strongly exiting a single slit turns the associated aether wave into
chop. The aether waves exiting the slits interact with the detectors
and become many short waves with irregular motion. The waves are
disorganized. There is no wave interference. The particle pitches and
rolls through the chop. The particle gets knocked around by the chop
and it no longer creates an interference pattern..

Fascinating!

What is it about the detection of the particle that turns the
associated aether wave into "chop"? The detector does nothing but
"detect", correct? So how does a device that does nothing but detect
have any affect at all upon the aether wave that's associated with the
particle?

In a boat double slit experiment there are pilings at the exits to the
slits with sensors on them to detect the boat. As the boat exits the
slits the pilings turn the bow wave into chop.

The detection destroys the coherence of the associated wave in the
aether. The detection destroys the coherence between the particle and
its associated wave in the aether.

But where do those "pilings" come from? How does the detection
instrument generate those pilings? How does the detection destroy the
dual coherence you describe? All it happens to be is a detector, an
instrument that merely *receives* information. It's noted that the
detector must somehow do something to destroy the dual coherence, but
precisely how does an instrument that is only there to receive
information have any effect at all upon the particle or the wave?

The detector detects the particle by physically interacting with the
particle. The detector also physically interacts with the associated
wave in the aether. The detector turns the aether wave into chop.

It is amazing you can make up magical particles which magically flow
toward the Earth and magically transition from mass to energy and back
again but you can't understand how physically detecting the a particle
can turn the associated wave in the aether into chop.

lol! *It is you, Mike, who proffers effect without cause. *So it is
you who make up the magic of an aether that causes gravity merely by
being displaced by matter. *Without a pressure/force behind that
aether, then it operates on fairy wings.

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"Happiness makes up in height for what it lacks in length."

Aether "fairy wings" could be the next great thing.

No doubt something other than a great deal of helium, rogue electrons
and 1e36 photons/cm3 probably exist wherever other molecular mass is
not all that significant(less than 1 atom/cm3)

A MOVING particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle TRAVELS through a single slit
while the associated wave in the aether passes through both..

“What is the conductivity speed of electrons in a superconductor?“
It is a bit of a misconception that electrons move at the speed of
electricity through a wire. Electricity moves move like a wave, with
many electrons moving as a direct result of the movement of other
nearby electrons. In a typical piece of copper wire, the Electrons
themselves only reach speeds of about 2 cm per second, depending on
the amount of current present.

In a super conductor, the electrons are "free", meaning they are not
bound to their individual atoms or molecules. In this case, with a
similar amount of current, the electrons would not move any faster
than in a normal piece of wire. However, because of the ease of moving
electricity through a super conductive wire, a much smaller piece of
wire can be used. (Imagine if you could move all the water in a fire
hose through a drinking straw!) Now the more limited number of
electrons would have to move faster, though their actual physical
speed is still a function of just how much current passes through the
wire.

Ryan B.lscamper

So, you are saying particles move?

Yes, objectively proven that an individual particle such as an
electron actually moves in a conductor, though a tad bit slow.

So, in terms of what occurs physically in nature in a double slit
experiment where the particle is NOT a photon, you understand the
particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the
aether passes through both, correct?

Sure thing, because your analogy seems logical enough, as to
interpreting that aether in a vacuum (such as within the Earth-moon
L1) of 1e-18 bar or less, would have that aether wave as either
traveling or materializing much faster than any physical particle that
tags along for the ride.

Though which of those comes first: the wave or the particle?

A particle physically displaces the aether. A particle moving with
respect to the state of the aether in which it exists has an
associated aether displacement wave. So, the particle has to be moving
through the aether in order to create the wave.

Waves generated by boats, ships or seismic events typically travel
faster than the item initially causing the displacement or disturbance
of water. *Electrons moving along at 2 cm/sec creating their
electromagnetic waves moving at roughly .85 c, or otherwise specified
as "95 to 97% that of the speed of light" unless it's via coax which
drags that wave velocity down to 66% c, is another valid analogy that
needs to be considered.
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_electricity
*How is the displacement and subsequent wave of aether any different?

It isn't. Maxwell's displacement current is a physical displacement of
the aether.

The aether changes state at 'c'. However, the state of the aether is
changed by the particle moving through and displacing it. The state of
the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the
state of the aether in neighboring places is the state of displacement
of the aether.

On 11/14/2012 4:00 PM, mpc755 wrote:

It is amazing you can make up magical particles which magically flow
toward the Earth and magically transition from mass to energy and back
again but you can't understand how physically detecting the a particle
can turn the associated wave in the aether into chop.

lol! It is you, Mike, who proffers effect without cause. So it is
you who make up the magic of an aether that causes gravity merely by
being displaced by matter. Without a pressure/force behind that
aether, then it operates on fairy wings.

Good...So finally we all agree that ether doesn't exist at all.


Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.


No it's not.






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On Nov 15, 10:25*am, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 15, 1:07*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

Waves generated by boats, ships or seismic events typically travel
faster than the item initially causing the displacement or disturbance
of water. *Electrons moving along at 2 cm/sec creating their
electromagnetic waves moving at roughly .85 c, or otherwise specified
as "95 to 97% that of the speed of light" unless it's via coax which
drags that wave velocity down to 66% c, is another valid analogy that
needs to be considered.
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_electricity
*How is the displacement and subsequent wave of aether any different?

It isn't. Maxwell's displacement current is a physical displacement of
the aether.

The aether changes state at 'c'. However, the state of the aether is
changed by the particle moving through and displacing it. The state of
the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the
state of the aether in neighboring places is the state of displacement
of the aether.
Sounds exactly like what happens in a copper conductor, whereas those
electron particles get to displace their way through at 2 cm/sec.

On Nov 15, 1:25*pm, HVAC wrote:
On 11/14/2012 4:00 PM, mpc755 wrote:











It is amazing you can make up magical particles which magically flow
toward the Earth and magically transition from mass to energy and back
again but you can't understand how physically detecting the a particle
can turn the associated wave in the aether into chop.

lol! *It is you, Mike, who proffers effect without cause. *So it is
you who make up the magic of an aether that causes gravity merely by
being displaced by matter. *Without a pressure/force behind that
aether, then it operates on fairy wings.

Good...So finally we all agree that ether doesn't exist at all.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

No it's not.


Then explain it. What occurs physically in nature to cause gravity?
While you're at it, explain what occurs physically in nature in a
double slit experiment.

Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushes back
and exerts inward pressure toward matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether through both.

On Nov 15, 1:34*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 15, 10:25*am, mpc755 wrote:







On Nov 15, 1:07*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

Waves generated by boats, ships or seismic events typically travel
faster than the item initially causing the displacement or disturbance
of water. *Electrons moving along at 2 cm/sec creating their
electromagnetic waves moving at roughly .85 c, or otherwise specified
as "95 to 97% that of the speed of light" unless it's via coax which
drags that wave velocity down to 66% c, is another valid analogy that
needs to be considered.
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_electricity
*How is the displacement and subsequent wave of aether any different?

It isn't. Maxwell's displacement current is a physical displacement of
the aether.

The aether changes state at 'c'. However, the state of the aether is
changed by the particle moving through and displacing it. The state of
the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the
state of the aether in neighboring places is the state of displacement
of the aether.

Sounds exactly like what happens in a copper conductor, whereas those
electron particles get to displace their way through at 2 cm/sec.

That's because it is.

"Doth not this aethereal medium in passing out of water, glass,
crystal, and other compact and dense bodies in empty spaces, grow
denser and denser by degrees, and by that means refract the rays of
light not in a point, but by bending them gradually in curve
lines? ...Is not this medium much rarer within the dense bodies of the
Sun, stars, planets and comets, than in the empty celestial space
between them? And in passing from them to great distances, doth it not
grow denser and denser perpetually, and thereby cause the gravity of
those great bodies towards one another, and of their parts towards the
bodies; every body endeavouring to go from the denser parts of the
medium towards the rarer?" - Newton

Newton is referring to the state of displacement of the aether.

The aether does not grow denser and denser. The aether is, or behaves
similar to, a supersolid. However, Newton is correct, displaced aether
pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

""In several parts of this treatise an attempt has been made to
explain electromagnetic phenomena by means of mechanical action
transmitted from one body to another by means of a medium occupying
the space between them. The undulatory theory of light also assumes
the existence of a medium. We have now to shew that the properties of
the electromagnetic medium are identical with those of the
luminiferous medium." - Maxwell

Maxwell's displacement current is a physical displacement of the
aether.

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~...ein_ether.html

"space without ether is unthinkable"

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places"

The state of the aether at every place determined by connections with
the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
state of displacement of the aether.

'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory -
Louis de BROGLIE'
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf

“When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics I was
looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles,
of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in
his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the
physical reality of waves and particles.”

“any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous
“energetic contact” with a hidden medium”

The hidden medium of de Broglie wave mechanics is the aether. The
“energetic contact” is the state of displacement of the aether.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated aether wave through both.

"It is ironic that Einstein's most creative work, the general theory
of relativity, should boil down to conceptualizing space as a medium
when his original premise [in special relativity] was that no such
medium existed [..] The word 'ether' has extremely negative
connotations in theoretical physics because of its past association
with opposition to relativity. This is unfortunate because, stripped
of these connotations, it rather nicely captures the way most
physicists actually think about the vacuum. . . . Relativity actually
says nothing about the existence or nonexistence of matter pervading
the universe, only that any such matter must have relativistic
symmetry. [..] It turns out that such matter exists. About the time
relativity was becoming accepted, studies of radioactivity began
showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure
similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent
studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand
that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian
emptiness. It is filled with 'stuff' that is normally transparent but
can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a
part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day
by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this
because it is taboo." - Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics,
endowed chair in physics, Stanford University

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

On Nov 15, 10:36*am, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 15, 1:25*pm, HVAC wrote:









On 11/14/2012 4:00 PM, mpc755 wrote:

It is amazing you can make up magical particles which magically flow
toward the Earth and magically transition from mass to energy and back
again but you can't understand how physically detecting the a particle
can turn the associated wave in the aether into chop.

lol! *It is you, Mike, who proffers effect without cause. *So it is
you who make up the magic of an aether that causes gravity merely by
being displaced by matter. *Without a pressure/force behind that
aether, then it operates on fairy wings.

Good...So finally we all agree that ether doesn't exist at all.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

No it's not.

Then explain it. What occurs physically in nature to cause gravity?
While you're at it, explain what occurs physically in nature in a
double slit experiment.

Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushes back
and exerts inward pressure toward matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether through both.

Harlow our resident mainstream status-quo parrot can't explain
anything that hasn't already been done by others that actually know at
least something of what they are talking about.

Harlow will be in perpetual denial of aether regardless of even the
most objective evidence.

On Nov 15, 10:37*am, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 15, 1:34*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Nov 15, 10:25*am, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 15, 1:07*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

Waves generated by boats, ships or seismic events typically travel
faster than the item initially causing the displacement or disturbance
of water. *Electrons moving along at 2 cm/sec creating their
electromagnetic waves moving at roughly .85 c, or otherwise specified
as "95 to 97% that of the speed of light" unless it's via coax which
drags that wave velocity down to 66% c, is another valid analogy that
needs to be considered.
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_electricity
*How is the displacement and subsequent wave of aether any different?

It isn't. Maxwell's displacement current is a physical displacement of
the aether.

The aether changes state at 'c'. However, the state of the aether is
changed by the particle moving through and displacing it. The state of
the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the
state of the aether in neighboring places is the state of displacement
of the aether.

Sounds exactly like what happens in a copper conductor, whereas those
electron particles get to displace their way through at 2 cm/sec.

That's because it is.

"Doth not this aethereal medium in passing out of water, glass,
crystal, and other compact and dense bodies in empty spaces, grow
denser and denser by degrees, and by that means refract the rays of
light not in a point, but by bending them gradually in curve
lines? ...Is not this medium much rarer within the dense bodies of the
Sun, stars, planets and comets, than in the empty celestial space
between them? And in passing from them to great distances, doth it not
grow denser and denser perpetually, and thereby cause the gravity of
those great bodies towards one another, and of their parts towards the
bodies; every body endeavouring to go from the denser parts of the
medium towards the rarer?" - Newton

Newton is referring to the state of displacement of the aether.

The aether does not grow denser and denser. The aether is, or behaves
similar to, a supersolid. However, Newton is correct, displaced aether
pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

""In several parts of this treatise an attempt has been made to
explain electromagnetic phenomena by means of mechanical action
transmitted from one body to another by means of a medium occupying
the space between them. The undulatory theory of light also assumes
the existence of a medium. We have now to shew that the properties of
the electromagnetic medium are identical with those of the
luminiferous medium." - Maxwell

Maxwell's displacement current is a physical displacement of the
aether.

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html

"space without ether is unthinkable"

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places"

The state of the aether at every place determined by connections with
the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
state of displacement of the aether.

'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory -
Louis de BROGLIE'http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf

“When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics I was
looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles,
of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in
his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the
physical reality of waves and particles.”

“any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous
“energetic contact” with a hidden medium”

The hidden medium of de Broglie wave mechanics is the aether. The
“energetic contact” is the state of displacement of the aether.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated aether wave through both.

"It is ironic that Einstein's most creative work, the general theory
of relativity, should boil down to conceptualizing space as a medium
when his original premise [in special relativity] was that no such
medium existed [..] The word 'ether' has extremely negative
connotations in theoretical physics because of its past association
with opposition to relativity. This is unfortunate because, stripped
of these connotations, it rather nicely captures the way most
physicists actually think about the vacuum. . . . Relativity actually
says nothing about the existence or nonexistence of matter pervading
the universe, only that any such matter must have relativistic
symmetry. [..] It turns out that such matter exists. About the time
relativity was becoming accepted, studies of radioactivity began
showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure
similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent
studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand
that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian
emptiness. It is filled with 'stuff' that is normally transparent but
can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a
part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day
by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this
because it is taboo." - Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics,
endowed chair in physics, Stanford University

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

Not so fast, but don't give up on us.

On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:26:35 -0500, HVAC wrote:

On 11/14/2012 2:11 PM, Painius wrote:

It is amazing you can make up magical particles which magically flow
toward the Earth and magically transition from mass to energy and back
again but you can't understand how physically detecting the a particle
can turn the associated wave in the aether into chop.


lol! It is you, Mike, who proffers effect without cause. So it is
you who make up the magic of an aether that causes gravity merely by
being displaced by matter. Without a pressure/force behind that
aether, then it operates on fairy wings.


Good...So finally we all agree that ether doesn't exist at all.


There is no reason to accept that there is no spatial medium. Einstein
merely pointed out that his equations, his theories of relativity,
would work with or without an "ether". Other physicists, who never
really liked the idea of an ether, misinterpreted Einstein to mean
that there is no ether, and they ran with that. As I said before,
physics threw the baby out with the bathwater.

The bathwater was the static, stationary ether that had been accepted
by science for more than two-hundred years. The "throwing out" began
with the null result of the MMX, and further similar experiments
seemed to support the MMX result. All those experiments were designed
TO DETECT A STATIONARY LUMINIFEROUS AETHER. They were *not* designed
to rule out every possible kind of spatial medium.

So what, then, was the "baby"? It was the *challenge*, Harlow, the
challenge to find the nature of the spatial medium, and what the
spatial medium was made of. Mike has his ideas about the "aether". He
has put together his very own context of the writings and ideas of
scientists, and he copies and pastes that context every chance he
gets. Oc and I, along with the help of AA, Bert, Brad, even Saul and
Hägar, and one or two others who gave us magnificent argument, have
come up with our own idea of what comprises the spatial medium. But
those ideas are just possibilities. The problem is that few trained
scientists want to risk their credibility to reopen the challenge, to
resuscitate the "baby".

And yet, several mysteries still prevail. As Mike has pointed out,
some of those mysteries can be easily solved under the proposal of a
spatial medium or "aether". But those enigmas will continue to
intrigue science until that old challenge is recognized, and someone
comes forward to meet that challenge and, yes, perhaps even get a
Nobel in physics for his or her efforts.

My days will soon be over. I think it would be neat to come back in
forty or fifty years just to see where science has led us on the
refinements of Einstein's theories. Space is not just "space". Space
is not just an empty vacuum. Space is composed of "something", and
"dark matter" might be proof of that. And the movement of the spatial
medium may very well be the "forceful" cause of gravity.

I truly hope that the following leads somewhere...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/112789079/...-phase-Doppler

That interferometer gear appears to show that there is some sort of
spatial "wind", and that the dynamic spatial medium is strongest as it
comes straight down out of the sky, a vertical "flow" of space into
the Earth, into us, and into all particles of matter. If this is
shown to be true, then it will once again revolutionize physics.


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Let science limit your knowledge, but not your imagination."

On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:25:29 -0800 (PST), Father Haskell
wrote:

On Nov 14, 5:22*pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 14, 5:21*pm, Father Haskell wrote:

On Nov 14, 5:17*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 14, 5:13*pm, Father Haskell wrote:

On Nov 14, 5:10*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 14, 4:56*pm, HVAC wrote:

On 11/14/2012 4:52 PM, mpc755 wrote:

100% wrong. Ether exists exactly as much as god exists.

Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?

Ether = God.
God does not exist = Ether does not exist.

I'm just smarter and better than you, MP3.

A while back you asked what does ether get you.

It gets you the correct understanding of what occurs physically in
nature to cause gravity and the observed behaviors in a double slit
experiment.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether through both.

Why did you ask the question if you were just going to remain ignorant
of understanding the answer?

If light is a disturbance in the so-called "ether," why
does its velocity remain constant regardless of that
of the observer?

Everything is with respect to the state of the aether in which it
exists, including the rate at which atomic clocks tick. That is why
the speed of light is always measured to be 'c'.

You have an atomic clock at sea level. You take it to the top of a
mountain. The atomic clock ticks at a different rate because the state
of the aether in which it exists has changed.

Because of gravity.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter IS gravity.

Which would mean its force impinges equally from all
directions, thus cancelling itself out.


If a couple of dozen pipes were impinged on a rubber ball from all
directions, would they cancel themselves out or would they compress
the ball?


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Indelibly yours,
Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Let science limit your knowledge, but not your imagination."